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Help a new young Indiana resident out. How to get a CHL?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by dodging230grainers, Apr 14, 2008.

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  1. dodging230grainers

    dodging230grainers Member

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    Ok, so I'm moving to Indiana this fall. Can anyone help me by describing the process for obtaining a CHL? I'm 18 years old and from Texas if that matters.

    thanks.
     
  2. Winchester 73

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  3. dodging230grainers

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    I'm not sure what county Purdue University is in, but would I have to go to a designated county (wherever that might be) and get the application from the police department there?

    Also, I see a list of license types. Does it matter which type I pick? I suppose "Four Year Personal Protection" seems the most logical. does it matter?
     
  4. retgarr

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    I have an answer for you!
    Ok, Purdue is in Tippecanoe county. RIght now there is confusion between the w lafayette city police department and the sheriff. They are not following the letter of the law on permit issuance. So here is the easiest way for you to get a permit. First you get an Indiana state ID, not a drivers license but an ID. Then you go to the police department and get the application packet.
    If you have questions just ask, I have a friend going through a similar process.

    Send me an IM if you like, it's kinda complicated.
     
  5. El Tejon

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    CHL?:confused: Oh, Texas talk, gotcha, cowpoke.:D

    It's a License to Carry a Handgun here. There is no dress code, but open carry is on the rare side (besides it's cold and rainy here now, bring a jacket, young man, we don't cotton to Global Warming up here).:D

    That would be my home, Tippecanoe County, Indiana: http://www.county.tippecanoe.in.us/

    You will pick up the application from the PD where you live. So, where you are going to live? Got an apartment picked out? West Lafayette or Lafayette? Tell me where and I'll tell you where to go.:D

    Yes, it matters what you pick (The hunting/target shooting permit is for just those activities). You are correct, select the Personal Protection option.

    What's the complication?:confused:
     
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    El Tejon, you work jsut down the road form me! If you live in the city limits of Lafayette, then you ahve to go to the police station downtown. I you live INSIDE the city limits of West Lafayette, then you have to go to the west lafayete PD, which is by the west lafayette post office off of 52. If you live OUTSIDE either city limit, then you must go to the Sherrifs office on 9th st, jsut off of 52, to get the paperwork, and to get everything processed. It is advisable, if you do get a permit, to get the protection as well as the lifetime. Why ever have to deal with reapplying for your liscence?


    Retgarr, what problems are you refering to with west lafayette/ Lafayette?
     
  7. El Tejon

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    electron, you live on Ferry Street (I'm at Ferry and 2nd Street by the new condos/office building)? In those brownstones by 8th Street? On the hill in those old victorians? Where?

    I'm off Union by Jesco Hills, the old Hedgewood neighborhood.
     
  8. dodging230grainers

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    thanks for the replies guys.

    I will be living on campus (Purdue University) for at least the first two years.

    Any suggestions as to where to keep my handgun?

    (I'm assuming guns are prohibited at Purdue dorms)

    Also, reading the Indiana State CHL FAQ, it says TX is one of the states that recognizes an Indiana CHL.

    In texas, however, you have to be 21 to carry. So could come back down to Texas with my Indiana license and carry lawfully?
     
  9. Car Knocker

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    When in Texas you have to abide by Texas law.
     
  10. El Tejon

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    Car, well, I didn't always.:D Does Tejas have a law against under 21 possessing firearms? The Tejas CHL statute requires 21, but does that apply to non-Texicanos? Don't know, have to look it up.

    Since he would not be a Texicano, but a Hoosier, he would be legal to carry, unless there is a Tejas statute against under 21s possessing guns somewhere. Maybe something in the reciprocity agreement. Have to look it up.

    Living in the dorms? Hmmm, have to ask one of the Purdue guys we have here. I'm sure they would have some ideas.
     
  11. dodging230grainers

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    Let me know what they think, El Tejon:D

    It is legal to possess a handgun in the state of TX as long as you're 18, but I believe concealed carry requires 21. Yet it says TX honors Indiana licenses, which is a 18+ state. weird.
     
  12. Winchester 73

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    El Tejon,you are the ultimate Indy authority and I bow to your wisdom.
    Please double-check.
    I have gone over Texas Chapter 46,Weapons,
    Statutes 4601,4602,4603 &46.035,Subchapter H,Chapter 411,Govt. Code,
    and in all this ,find nothing to keep a 18-20 year Indiana CCW permit holder from legally carrying in the Lone Star State.
    I may have missed something.
    Now,I'll take 2 Excedrin and try to unwind.
     
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    I don't think we have a law specifically prohibiting carrying at colleges and universities (correct me if I'm wrong, El Tejon, I'm sure you know), but guns are almost certainly prohibited on campus by university policy. The car is probably a no-go, too. One option might be to get a safe deposit box and keep it/them in there. Another option is to move off campus as soon as you can, and then you're good to go.

    We issue lifetime permits now, although for a higher price. Mine was $100 to renew my old one. It's a little bit more for a first-timer ($130?). You might consider that option.
     
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    I recently graduated from Purdue, I recommend you check out the rifle and pistol club, on campus they shoot .22s only, but with the price of ammo having gone up, i recommend giving it a try. The club has .22s you can use and even an M1a. It is a good place to meet other people who like shooting, also sometimes they get together and shoot off campus.

    Anyway get a Indiana ID first, I got my license at 20 and didn't have any problems, you will have to go to the local PD and have them fingerprint you and do a background check, since you are from out of state that may take longer, I'm not sure. Then you'll need to go back to the PD to pick up the paper work and get a money order for the state police, mail the money order and the paperwork, then you'll be mailed the license.

    I also recommend you get Indiana Handgun Law by Bryan Lee Ciyou. The 2nd edition ( current ) will have a red cover.

    As for storing you firearm, According to Ciyou, "what constitutes a "school" is not well defined under Indiana Law." p82
    I lived off campus when I got my pistol, but what I have heard is that you can keep it locked up in your vehicle, unloaded would probably be best in this case. From what I've read on the State Police website and in Ciyou's work it seems that School is primary school or daycare and such are prohibited and that secondary education is not included. But I think there is some grey in this area of the law. Please check out http://www.in.gov/isp/ this is the actual Indiana state police website. I once called the State police and asked about this issue, I got a response along the lines of "I think so" fro the officer.
    Please note that even if there is no penalty under state law, the University may prohibit firearms, which may lead to expulsion, potentially.

    Another option I can think of is to get a bank deposit box, since possessing a firearm in a bank isn't illegal under state law. But then you will only have access to it when the bank is open. If you choose this I recommend putting the firearm in a non descriptive box or case in order to avoid attention.

    If you choose to keep it in your vehicle my advice is the following. Park off campus, then dont brag to others that you have the firearm, especially in your vehicle, as it may get stolen or lead to other undesirable outcomes. Second whenever you are driving your vehicle and the firearm is in it, which includes in a truck, make sure you have you license. So that if the police officer asks if you have weapons you can present it to him/her.

    Last but not lease DO get the license laminated or it won't last long, and read up on the laws in Indiana. The state police and Ciyou's work are good places to start I think. Good Luck.
     
  15. dodging230grainers

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    thanks match.

    Is Indiana like Texas in that when pulled over by an LEO, you must show them your CHL and/or declare that you are/aren't carrying at the time?

    Also, can anyone confirm that I can come back to Texas and carry legally with my Indiana CHL?

    thanks.
     
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    dodging230grainers,as was stated in my previous post this is what I find.Perhaps El Tejon or Texans or someone can double check to be sure I have not missed anything.
    Over.
     
  17. Siderite

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    Purdue Rifle and Pistol Club will store firearms for its members (membership $35/semester or $65 for the year) for free at present, but that may be changing next year to help the club budget (last I heardthe proposal was for $5 storage fee for the year).

    I'll also second the notion of getting the Bryan Ciyou book "Indiana Handgun Law"

    As for Purdue policy, you can find it here: http://www.purdue.edu/police/policies.htm
    though working on changing that (join Students for Concealed Carry on Campus)

    Drop me a line when you get here in the fall and I'll help you get things figured out - I'll still be around.
    -Siderite
     
  18. dodging230grainers

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    Winchester, I guess I'll just ask local authorities here just to be safe, but I appreciate your research.

    Siderite- Are going to be a senior or something at Purdue this fall? You can PM me your contact info, and we will be in touch this fall for sure.
     
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    No requirement. Some think it may be a good idea, but that's up to you. Some people I know do it, but I follow "don't ask, don't tell.":D

    As far as you carrying in Tejas after becoming an Indiana resident, I'm not too familiar with Texas law, but I would look at the reciprocity agreement (which is ironic as I helped draft the thing) and then Texas statutes and admin code to see if there is anything that would prevent this.

    In your best interest to consult with an attorney licensed in Texas. Cheap insurance.
     
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    You can carry here at 18, but you can't buy one til you're 21. Bring your gun with.
     
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    I have heard this before but

    Can you point me to the law that says a dealer can't sell a firearm to anybody less than 21 years? According to what I have quoted above it is ok to transfer ownership of a handgun or assault weapon to any person 18 years or older.
     
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    Federal law. 18 USC 922(b)(1):
     
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    Didn't think about federal law. That statute doesn't outlaw private sales.
     
  24. retgarr

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    In terms of storage of personal firearms at Purdue Rifle and Pistol we will most likely NOT implement a storage fee next year. Other than having to be a member to store your gun there. On another note after a chat with the Indiana State Police you will not be issued a permit if you have a campus address. I've read Indiana firearms law and I don't see how that works but that's what I was told by the state police.
    Or you could just keep your guns at my place!
     
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    That's correct, it only applies to dealers or other licensees.
     
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