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Help finding specs for a load

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Luggo, Dec 15, 2007.

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  1. Luggo

    Luggo Member

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    I'm still somewhat new at this. I have searched my book, (Lyman 47) and the internet sources I know of to no avail.

    Could someone give me specs for a 9mm, 115 FMJ, with Win 231?

    I have read the debate on 231 and H-38...but the Hodgdon site only lists JHP and LRN and not a FMJ round.

    Any help would be appreciated.
     
  2. scrat

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    Too easy

    and welcome to the high road

    http://www.reloadammo.com/9mloads.htm

    (WC= WadCutter, SWC= Semi-WadCutter,
    HP= Hollow Point, RN= Round Nose, FMC= Full Metal Case, FMJ= Full Metal Jacket
    JHP= Jacketed Hollow Point and if GC indicated, means Gas Check at bottom of lead bullet)

    Loads for 9 MM Luger:
    (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start.)
    (See note on Powders below or read all about various Powders.)
    Bullet size is .355" (jacketed) in diameter. Cast bullets for 9mm (like Lead RN) are often .356" diameter.
    Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. It is just a guide and the reason you should start 10% under these charges and work up.
    THESE ARE MAXIMUM LOADS! - NOTE, powder companies have reduced some of these hot and maximum loads after these figures were posted. You might check current loads from powder company before loading maximum loads.


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    90 grain JHP (Jacketed Hollow Point)
    Bullseye 5.0 gr. 1,250 FPS
    Unique 6.1 gr. 1,341
    HP38 5.8 gr. 1,349
    HS-6 8.1 gr. 1,380
    No. 2 4.8 gr. 1,331
    No. 5 6.8 gr. 1,343
    231 5.1 gr. 1,305
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    100 grain JHP or FMC (Jacketed Hollow Point)
    Bullseye 4.9 gr. 1,182 FPS
    Unique 6.0 gr. 1,248
    HP38 5.5 gr. 1,282
    HS-6 7.5 gr. 1,313
    No. 2 5.2 gr. 1,190
    No. 5 6.8 gr. 1,200
    No. 7 9.0 gr. 1,230
    231 5.1 gr. 1,235
    WAP 6.0 gr. 1,155
    VV N350 6.0 gr. 1,180
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    115 grain FMC
    Bullseye 4.3 gr. 1,180 FPS
    Unique 6.1 gr. 1,185
    Universal 5.0 gr. 1,149
    Clays 3.9 gr. 1,095
    HP38 5.1 gr. 1,167
    No. 2 4.4 gr. 1,092
    No. 5 7.0 gr. 1,192
    231 4.2 gr. 1,135
    WSL 4.5 gr. 1,105
    WSF 5.7 gr. 1,165
    WAP 6.0 gr. 1,162
    VV N350 6.0 gr. 1,130
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    125 grain Lead RN (.356" dia)
    Bullseye 4.7 gr. 1,105 FPS
    Unique 6.0 gr. 1,165
    No. 2 4.2 gr. 1,002
    No. 5 6.2 gr. 1,133
    231 4.0 gr. 1,035 updated 9-15-03 to lower 4.0 instead of 5.1
    WSL 3.8 gr. 985
    WSF 4.7 gr. 1,055
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    125 grain FMC or JHP
    Bullseye 4.2 gr. 1,155 FPS
    Unique 6.0 gr. 1,150
    Universal 4.9 gr. 1,118
    Clays 3.7 gr. 1,056
    HP38 4.8 gr. 1,088
    No. 2 4.1 gr. 1,057
    No. 5 6.4 gr. 1,200
    231 4.1 gr. 1,095
    WSL 4.1 gr. 1,025
    WSF 5.3 gr. 1,115
    VV 3N37 6.3 gr. 1,165
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    145 grain Lead RN (Round Nose)
    Bullseye 3.5 gr. 942 FPS
    Unique 3.8 gr. 1,108
    HS6 5.0 gr. 968
    No. 2 3.7 gr. 893
    No. 5 5.1 gr. 984
    No. 7 7.2 gr. 1,052
    WSF 3.9 gr. 961
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    147 grain FMJ or JHP
    Bullseye 4.2 gr. 1,010 FPS
    Unique 4.4 gr. 1,010
    Universal 3.7 gr. 851
    HS6 6.0 gr. 973
    No. 2 4.0 gr. 888
    No. 5 5.3 gr. 991
    WSF 4.3 gr. 935
    WAP 4.7 gr. 964
    HP-38 3.5 grs. 818 to 825 fps (contributed by a friend)
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    Discussion: Bullseye is a fast burning powder and perhaps better suited to the small cases like the 9mm. It burns completely and fast. Unique is a very consistent burning powder and it is almost a tossup with the heavier bullets. Universal, Clays and HS6 are from Hodgdon and similar to Bullseye and Unique. HS6 is slowest of the group (Similar to 2400) and takes quite a bit more powder. Respectively are No.2 and No.5 from Accurate.
    As you move up in loads, you at least need the gas check on the bottom of the bullet to prevent gas melting the lead and fouling the barrel. For any loads over 900 FPS, I suggest using a jacketed or plated bullet. Jacketed bullets create a bit more wear on the rifling, but it's better than trying to wire brush out a bunch of lead build up. Just depends on what kinds of loads you plan to shoot. A bullet with a copper gas check or copper plating is best for INDOOR ranges to keep lead vapors out of the air.




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    Bullseye, Unique and 2400 are products of Alliant (formerly Hercules) Powders.
    Clays, Universal, HP38, HS6 and H4895 are products of Hodgdon Powders.
    IMR 3031 and IMR 4895 are products of IMR (formerly DuPont) Powder Company.
    No. 2, No. 5, #2230, and #2460 are products of Accurate Arms Company
    WMR, WSF, WSL, 760, 748, 231 and 540 are products of Winchester, Components Div.


    References: Accurate Arms Co. 1996 Reloading booklet - - Alliant Powder Co. Reloaders' Guide (1995) - - Hodgdon's Basic Reloaders Manual (1996) - - Speer Reloading Manual, #12 - - Winchester Reloading Components Manual, 14th edition - - Lyman Piston & Revolver Reloading Handbook, 2nd edition. - - VihtaVuori Oy Company, reloading booklet (1995) - - Numerous magazine articles on reloading special calibers and personal loads where noted.
     
  3. Luggo

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    The 115g load listed is for a FMC, is that ok for a FMJ?

    Thank you for the help
     
  4. Luggo

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    bump for suggestions
     
  5. Jim Watson

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    FMC = Full Metal Case = FMJ = Full Metal Jacket.
    Difference is zero to tiny.
     
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    Straight from the horse's mouth (screen shot from hodgdon.com):

    Based on this, I would use about 4.6 grains of 231 with any 115 grain jacketed bullet.
     
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