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Help, I think I ruined my brand new AK

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by krolden, Mar 9, 2008.

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  1. krolden

    krolden Member

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    I am really stressed and all the gun stores are closed on sunday so I hope that perhaps someone can help me...or point me in the right direction. I just bought a brand new SLR-107FR AK-47 and after taking it to the range, I then proceeded to clean it with some type of brake cleaner....well that was when the fun started. I noticead the finish began to flake and I started to freak out. This is my first AK-47 and I ruined it already. Any suggestions on what i should do? Or is this wear normal? Is my AK-47 going to rust through by mid morning tomorrow? Please help, thanks. I included some pics of the damage.

    Should I get this refinished stat? Any finish holds up "okay" to break cleaner..or am I just a total idiot. Thanks again.
     

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  2. nalioth

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    It'll take a lot more than brake cleaner to ruin an AK.


    They're not meant to be "pretty" guns. It can be easily refinished.
     
  3. txffl

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    I am not sure about your AK, but my AK (from years past) has a painted on finish. Yep, just black paint. Brake cleaner can remove some types of paint, at least it has in my shop.
    If it is a 'working gun', dont worry. It will get banged up anyway. Just adds character.
    If you want a 'looker', well, sorry then.
    AK not ruined. It still go bang. AK still good.
    A light coat of oil will prevent any rust for a long time, if you feel the need.

    Sorry you already 'marked' your new gun, but it happens to everyone.
     
  4. Dionysusigma

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    Get some oil on it NOW or it will rust. A refinishing will be necessary. :(

    "Some type of brake cleaner..." People are going to bash this, but don't let it bother you. Brake cleaner is especially harsh, yes, but (aside from grips or rifle furniture) it shouldn't (repeat: shouldn't) harm a gun in that manner.

    Look at it this way:
    1) It's not your fault. That finish would've come off easily no matter what was done.
    2) Now you can have it refinished in any way you like! :) There's hard chroming, parkerizing, and about a million colors of Duracoat out there that can be applied in solid or patterened for, in any combination.*


    *Unless, of course, it was Duracoat on the rifle in the first place. If so, you might wanna switch cleaners to something a little less... aggressive. :uhoh:
     
  5. krolden

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    Thank you

    I was concerned that perhaps the "finish" being eaten away in a few areas would have created rust. I'm not overly concerned with looks, just making sure that rust doesn't turn into an issue. Thanks for the quick replies though.
     
  6. bensdad

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    Bill Heavey once wrote that he should take every new gun he gets and bang it off of a tree in the front yard. He figured it would save him the anguish of every gun's first "ding." You got your first ding. Now, go enjoy the gun. :D
     
  7. krolden

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    Roger that, immediately after messing it up i put some clp on it...then cried....then put some more clp on it. I usually routinely "swap" my pistols/knifes/rifles/shotguns with oil at least once a month (assuming they are not locked up) if they are just "laying around" the house then I usually oil them more often but I live in a extremely dry environment. Thanks for the concern though. It did annoy me that the finish just "melted" away so quickly. I used the same stuff on all my other guns and my mosin nagant...no problems. Its actually a gun cleaner spray thing similiar to a brake cleaner but for guns (got it at the fun store)
     
  8. Ash

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    If worst comes to worst you can refinish with Alumahyde pretty cheaply. But, it's an AK and now is customized!

    Ash
     
  9. paintballdude902

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    are u basing gun care off of how a mosin is taken care of?

    its a mosin........thats the one thing in this worl that is more god like than chuck norris.........i mean u can run the thing over with and tank and it still shoot ofter u put some new furniture on it

    jk


    ur ak will be fine and i ahve used brake cleaner on my enfield to clean out some cosmo
     
  10. MaterDei

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    Your AK still looks 10 times better than mine did when it was 'new'. :)

    How did it shoot?
     
  11. Loanshark

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    Head up to wally world, and get a couple spray cans of camo paint. Grab a couple leaves from last fall (there are probably a couple in your gutter anyway) Lay the leaves on the gun to creat a pattern and spray away...
     
  12. MudPuppy

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    I saw the title and though you blew it up or something.

    If brake cleaner messes up a finish, imo it's not a finish worth getting worked up over anyhow.

    Either get a can of BBQ paint and redo it (and redo it again when it needs it) or finish it with some good stuff, like gunkote or alumahyde and be done with it.
     
  13. W.E.G.

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    AK's love the earth.

    vucijak-usmc-10.jpg

    You and yours hasn't had a bad day until your top cover looks like this when they find you.

    blood1.jpg
     
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    Brake cleaner cleans brakes and brake parts. This is the second post I've seen where someone used a product not made for guns on their guns. Congratulations, Here's your sign.

    Some lessons are best learned the hard way. Sorry about your rifle.
     
  15. Im283

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    I don't see a problem here.
     
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    What nobody has told the OP is that this is an Arsenal rifle, which means that it is built to the highest standards possible for a semiautomatic AK clone sold in the United States, and inexplicably given the worst finish possible.

    Basically, these rifles are crap paint over parkerization, if you're lucky, or over bare metal, if you're not. The solution is to bite the bullet and get it refinished, or do it yourself, if you're really handy. You'll have to register to post, but the fellows on the Bulgarian subforum at http://www.theakforum.net/ can set you straight as to what the best options are for a refinish.
     
  17. General Geoff

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    Brake cleaner does a wonderful job at cleaning metal. Bare metal. Anything that was on said metal (be it dirt, grime, powder or copper fouling, paint, bluing, etc..) can and will be stripped off with brake cleaner. Thus you must be very careful with what you spray with the stuff. It also tends to eat plastic of almost any type.
     
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    I keep hearing about people using brake cleaner on their guns, with no problems, but still, is it really that tough to get a jar of Hoppes 9? That and Rem Oil are the only things I use to clean my guns. I've seen what brake cleaner does to my auto parts, and thats awesome, but not the thing I want to do to my guns.
     
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    I've used brake cleaner on blued firearms and wipe them down with RemOil when finished. Don't think I would use brake cleaner on those that come with painted surfaces.
     
  20. bogie

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    Brake cleaner is fine when you want nothing but metal there. And it's the exact same stuff that they sell in the fancy "gun" can for 3-4x the price. Only that has a warning on it that you shouldn't use it on finish, paint or tupperware.

    As for the case at hand? It's an AK. It go bang.
     
  21. BryanP

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    For what it's worth, it is my understanding that brake cleaner is essentially the same stuff the put in Gun Scrubber. And yes, it will strip the finish. You'll need to get it re-finished, but other than that I doubt you did any damage.
     
  22. Bwana John

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    Get a coat of Krylon on there and you will be fine.
     
  23. Sans Authoritas

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    W.E.G., there has to be a good (though sad) story behind that.

    -Sans Authoritas
     
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    Brake cleaner works well on cosmoline, but I have never had a problem with painted surfaces, since most are not painted, they're blued. I do take care to not get it on the wood, as it will east some varnish and even plastic. It is still not soemthing that I use often, and I limit use to inside bare metal parts.

    If you do happen to oil the finish, just make sure to use a degreaser/wax remover that doesn't leave a residue, before you paint, as it isn't good to paint over rust OR oil. Ideally, you would remove the stock, and the rest of the finish before painting and use a metal prep, (usually containing phosphoric acid) before painting, but a decent job can be done without doing so. In fact, I would just keep the rifle dry, and wipe with a cleaning solvent before painting rather than to apply oil before repainting. It is just easier.
     
  25. nalioth

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    You mean something like the Serbo-Croatian war, perhaps?

    Quite a few of the Yugo kits came in in similar condition. Century refinishes all their rifles, but individual builders refinish as they please.
     
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