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  1. Cardsone1

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    I recently picked up these two WWII theater made knives online, I was hoping someone out there could help me learn something or anything about them! I probably over spent, but thought they were way cool so they were worth it! Screenshot_20180328-003045.jpg
     

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  2. JShirley

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    What theater did the ads claim they were made in?
     
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    WWII, it didn't give any other information beyond that.
     
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    My first thought, seeing the lion's heads was PTO, but now I am not so sure. Could even be North Africa or the middle east.
     
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    Are the lions aluminum? Test with a magnet.

    Are there markings on the guards?

    The blade shapes don't look American, but those get altered. Give us some close ups of the fullers/blade grooves.
     
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    I will test it and post detailed pics as soon as they come in! No mention of markings at all, or anything besides "WWII theater made" Like I said online listing, and these were photos from the seller...

    I didn't even know these types of knives existed until I saw a post on Instagram, I can tell I'm going to be hooked!
     
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    African theater is an interesting guess!
     
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    If the lions are not aluminum or brass (both were available in the field) then they're probably not theater knives. The lions would have been cast if they weren't taken off a donor knife. If they were cast in the field they'd need to be taken from available materials that would have come off of aircraft or ships.

    They could have started life as Quartermaster knives. They're about the only issue knife with a similar fuller. The clip point QM below also is close. Get blade length numbers and compare them to the QM. You can't make a knife longer so as long as they're shorter or the same as the QM we might have narrowed the source blade type down.

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    My first thought was Filipino or Khyber Pass.
     
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    Got a link to the listing?

    I agree with John that they just don't look like the US theater knives I've handled. OTOH, if they werent conversions of issue knives like so many and the blades were made in the field they could be anything from WWII to much later for deployed troops (an aircraft mechanic would have ready access to tools, equipment and materials).
     
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    The do look very similar to those QM you posted! They are scheduled to arrive Monday so I can test the metal.
     
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