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Help me choose

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Bad_Wolf, Sep 24, 2014.

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Which would you choose?

Poll closed Oct 24, 2014.
  1. Springfield XD 9

    14 vote(s)
    23.0%
  2. Glock 22 Gen 2

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  3. Taurus PT 1911

    9 vote(s)
    14.8%
  4. Glock 23 Gen 3

    20 vote(s)
    32.8%
  5. Springfield XDM .45

    17 vote(s)
    27.9%
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  1. Bad_Wolf

    Bad_Wolf Member

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    Hello everyone,

    Been reading on here a while and decided to register so I can get some opinions about my next purchase.

    First, a little background: I've owned a variety of handguns over the years but sold most of my collection (long guns and handguns) a few years ago when things got tough. Now I'm looking to get started again.

    Since I've owned a wide variety of makes, calibers, etc., over the years I can make an argument either way for the guns I'm looking at. I'll add that I've owned some version of all of these and have no issues with any. There aren't any that I don't like, don't shoot well (for me anyway).

    So here's what I'm looking at. Let me know your thoughts and reasons behind them:

    (In no particular order)

    1. Springfield XD-9, ported barrel, new. 520.00

    2. Taurus PT1911, used 520.00

    3. Glock 23 Gen 3 New 490.00

    4. Glock 22 Gen 2 used 400.00

    5. Springfield XDM .45 new 580.00

    Let me know what you think and why. I can make a case for all of them, just wanted some different views. I don't have a dog in this fight so if you see something you hate let me know ( and let me know why)

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. AustinTX

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    Honestly, you have all the important information needed to make the best decision. There has to be one here that you shoot better than the rest. That's the one you should buy. With one exception, there's no technical / mechanical reason to disqualify any of them, so all you're going to get are people making unhelpful arguments for the brand to which they feel most attached.

    But I will argue that you should eliminate the Taurus from consideration. Taurus guns are stuffed with low-quality internals, and the company continues to have the worst QC of any major gun maker. The odds of your need to work with their shoddy CS are high. And even if the gun doesn't have problems out of the gate, I would be extremely uncomfortable relying on an emergency tool with so many low-quality, weak-link essential components.
     
  3. JeeperCreeper

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    Roll the dice

    I think they are all good guns. So any that you choose will not be a bad choice.

    I picked the PT1911. I like 1911's and I think any 1911 is serviceable. Parts are everywhere. If you want a good deal, look at the Rock island Armory 1911's by Armscor. The will be cheaper and arguably better (opinion). I like hammer fired, all steel guns. 1911's are gorgeous and feel great. The aren't the best design out there, but it just feels right shooting them. The sound of a 1911 firing just sounds like "America" to my ears. That's why I like the 1911

    I would vote the XD's for second. They fit my hand nicely and the triggers are great for a striker gun (opinion). Arguably as reliable as a Glock.

    I vote Glocks last. They are great guns, with a great reputation and aftermarket. However, to own one you must join a cult and sell your soul to the Austrian Glock Devil. They do everything good, but nothing special for me (opinion). I also don't like the unsupported chambers and polygonal rifling, but if you shoot factory ammo, then forget I even mentioned it.

    Good luck, again, every choice will be a good one so have fun regardless!!!
     
  4. bannockburn

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    Well a lot depends on how the gun itself feels in your hand and how comfortable you are with the gun's size and ergonomics. Out of the choices you have listed I would probably go with the Glock 23 in that it's a good size for both range use and concealed carry, there's lots of factory support available, as well as aftermarket accessories.
     
  5. ritepath

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    I hate ported barrels and grip safeties. I don't like glock or taurus.

    Of those listed I'd have to go with the G23 except I'd pick it up in the form of a CZ p-07, or M&P.

    Or find a G20...
     
  6. MyGreenGuns

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    I voted XD9. I love mine. Its my absolute favorite pistol.

    I didn't care much for the XD(m) versions. It seemed like they tried to dress it up and make it "cool".

    I would cast a 2nd vote for the 1911. I'm enjoying mine. I have almost as much fun disassemble/reassemble as I do shooting it.

    The Glocks? Well, they're Glocks. If you've shot one, you've shot em all.
     
  7. NGIB

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    Why any 9mm has a ported barrel is beyond me.

    This being said, hard to provide advice without knowing what the intended purpose is. Home defense, carry gun, just a range blaster? Give more info and you'll get better opinions...
     
  8. TarDevil

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    Of the guns you listed...

    +1 what bannockburn said.
     
  9. JTQ

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    They all will probably be fine, but my question would be why this group?

    The XD9 is a pretty good gun. Why do you want a ported barrel? What's wrong with a regular XD9?


    There are lots of 1911's available, why the Taurus? Their reputation is not good.


    Remember, the reason we have Gen 4 Glocks at all is because of the previous Generations of .40S&W Glocks. If you want a Glock in .40S&W you would be better off with a Gen 4. Any reason you're not interested in a G17/G19? You mention the XD9 above so apparently 9mm is an OK choice. Glocks best guns are typically the 9mm models, G17/G19/G34.


    Probably a good gun, but .45 ammo will be more expensive than 9mm or .40S&W.
     
  10. 460Shooter

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    I chose the XDM .45. GLOCKS are fine, but I prefer XDM's and I simply wont spend my money on a Taurus.

    The XD 9 is fine too, but I'm a 45 shooter.
     
  11. frankiestoys

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    None of your choices are bad except I might pass in the Taurus...have you looked at any Sig's ?'I recently picked up a 2022 in 9mm and I've been very pleased with it (429$) and its a lot of gun! I'm not a Glock fan ( and yes i owned a couple) there just not for me .The SA are is a good choice ,they seem to get a lot of praise of your choices I would go with the SA but go check out the Sig too.
     
  12. MICHAEL T

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    NO Taurus 1911 or any Taurus . I have owned 3 and only 1 worked from box .Factory service terrible was my experience .

    NO ported barrels need apply
     
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    I voted before I read the details. I voted xd9......but im switching my vote since you want the ported barrel version to the xdm45.

    I sure like glocks but in 9mm, .357sig, .45acp, and 10mm forms.

    I like xds but not ported.

    I love 1911's but not taurus.
     
  14. Bad_Wolf

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    2 reasons: I've owned all of them in some form or fashion over the years and had good luck. Also, price

    It's not really that I want a ported barrel, just happened to see one at a decent price. Don't have strong feelings one way or the other when it comes to this


    Again, availabilty. Just happened to see it, really. I've owned several 1911's from colt and springfield down to rock island armory. I've had more issues with the higher end guns than the low end, so the taurus name didn't scare me. Not in love with it or anything, just had good luck in the past with lower end guns. Having read a little more about them it does give me pause, but still on the fence.


    What's changed between gen 2 and 4? I see they added finger grooves and I know some (not sure what gen) have adjustable backstraps but other than that what improvements/changes were made? I had a gen 2 glock 22 and never had an issue. Also, I'd consider the 17/19 as well. No problems with 9mm in general.

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  15. Bad_Wolf

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    ONly issue with the sig is the da/sa trigger. Never have liked those (by any manufacturer). I know they make a fine weapon though
     
  16. Bad_Wolf

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    Just out of curiosity, why no ported barrels? I've have little experience with them but none of it bad. I see several people with the same opinion on ported barrel, just wondering why
     
  17. Bad_Wolf

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    That's the hard part, I'm decent (not great but decent) with any/all of them. If I had to pick one, I'd probably say the 1911 is my favorite. But the glocks and springfields never fail (in my experience at least). I love how slim the 1911 is and carried a full sized one concealed with no issues. I like that the XD I can tell in the dark if there's a round in the chamber and whether it's cocked or not. Grip reminds me of 1911.
     
  18. JTQ

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    The key feature to the Gen 4 guns is the dual recoil spring. The G22 and G23 really needed it, the other guns G17/G19/G20/G21 etc, really don't.

    From Hilton Yam at Modern Service Weapons

    http://modernserviceweapons.com/?p=171

    http://modernserviceweapons.com/?p=7556#more-7556

     
  19. JDR

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    I would like to write in my Gen4 Glock 21 .45 ACP, I think it is way better than my Gen4 Glock 22. My 21 shoots steel, aluminum, and (of course) brass case ammo with ease. It's great to be able to shoot a .45 with ammo that is cheaper than most brass-case 9mm ammo!
     
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  20. Cee Zee

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    I have a XDm in .40S&W and a Taurus PT-145 Millennium Pro which is a .45 ACP. The Taurus is a far superior gun in almost every way. It's more accurate and has been more dependable. What else is there? Do I think it will last 150 years? No I don't. But I've put about 5000 rounds through it without a single problem of any kind. When I bought my XDm it had a serious feeding issue (I bought it used with a no questions asked return policy though so I sent it in to SA to get it fixed and it has worked perfectly since). But the SA still isn't as accurate and I don't think a XDm in .45 would fire multiple rounds in a hurry without losing a good bit of accuracy. The Taurus I have recoils straight back into my hands and that makes firing double taps and more an easy proposition.

    Still Taurus has spotty quality control. Most people get good examples (check out the Taurus board sometime). If you get a good one chances are it will stay that way a while. I bought mine with a 30 day no questions asked guarantee from my LGS though. Without that I may not have bought it. I actually had it in my mind to buy a Glock that day. I just can never fan a Glock that feels good in my hand. But I wouldn't have even considered buying one without that guarantee. I would now though.

    I've never regretted buying my Taurus. I used it to check out some suspicious activity just tonight. It is an amazing package actually. It holds a lot of ammo in a small space and it has never let me down. But whether it will stay that way as long as some of your other choices is another matter. BTW I don't think my SA is built to last 100 years like some guns are, but it's done 5 years without a hitch. No guarantees you will get another one as good but I love mine.
     
  21. vaalpens

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    It also depends on your price range. SIG's are normally a bit more expensive unless you go for SP2022 (great gun), P250 (DAO) or maybe even the new P320 (striker fired). I would rather buy a Sig CPO (certified pre-owned) before buying a used gun, unless you are able to check everything out on the used gun.
     
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    I have around three dozen handguns, and the only exact duplicate is a pair of G23s (out of 12 Glocks). They are extremely versatile, as they are the same size as a G19 but capable of shooting 9mm, .40, or .357Sig with a quick and simple barrel change. Mine both work great with the original 40/357 mags, even with 9mm ammo. Easy to shoot to combat accuracy, reliable as can be, small enough to carry concealed.
     
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    I'd go with the 1911, because I like them. I have had no problem with Taurus, but second the recommendation above that you look at Rock Island for a good quality 1911 for not a lot of money. Glock grips just don't fit my hand well, so I don't own any. I won't buy a gun that I won't enjoy shooting. Too many good alternatives that I will enjoy.
     
  24. wlewisiii

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    None of the above. Try this instead:
    Rock Island Tactical Full Size .45 ACP ~$450
     
  25. tarosean

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    None of the above. But any world "work".
     
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