Help Me Demolish My Anti-Gun Aunt's Gun Control Scheme...

[JRWhit]

The "Gun Culture" is a bunch of idiots and weirdos and it should be destroyed.

This is your pathway to open her head a little. This tells me that her opinion

has come from hand picked sound bites and video clips of various fringe

elements that were delivered to her by agenda driven media. Unless she

believes you to be that quoted above, then you are the most persuasive

argument to combat her current mentality. After she is forced to admit that

you, being a part of the gun culture, are not what she was informed that

you are, then you may begin with the suggestion that there may be other

miss-informed areas of her argument. Insist to her that the information

she receives is coming from the same people who say that her own nephew

is an idiot weirdo. If she is wrong on that and you can get her to acknowledge

it, then the door is cracked and you can proceed to push it open.

 

[KMatch]

Let's reverse this a moment: Suppose someone were to change any of YOUR minds? Turn you into gun haters? Would it work? Would ANY amount of data, history, logic, head pounding, face punching, change YOUR mind? It wouldn't mine! Some people simply believe what they believe and NO amount of contrary evidence will change it. It's best present your case and then move on if there's no results. Spend your time where it can do more good. I can tell any of you straight up : good luck changing my mind on ANYTHING! It happens, but not with force or ramming logic down my throat. It has to come to me on my own time.

 

[Creature]

"If I wanted to make the bubonic plague at my house the Federal Government would arrest me even though I'm not engaging in interstate commerce... how do they have that power? Because we let them have it for the sake of public safety."

I have always hated this line of thought/argument.

A gun is very discriminate. I can target a person who is standing shoulder to shoulder with two other people and not injure, maim or kill those two persons standing on either side of my target.

Bombs, bazookas and biological weapons are indiscriminate...and thus subject to different regulations than firearms.

 

[jbrown50]

As others have already pointed out, your aunt is of the totalitarian government/dictatorship mindset. People like that are why the founders wisely foresaw a need for the Second Amendment to begin with.

Her issues are more psychological than anything else.

Gun control is about control.

 

[627PCFan]

I wouldnt bother with her.
But

2nd Amendment is in the constitiution.
Constitution is the founding American Document
Shes anti-american.

 

[OilyPablo]

Don't give up. Enlist allies. Plant the seed.

 

[Vector]

-The 2nd Amendment has been irrelevant since the Civil War, the Heller decision was a product of the corrupt Roberts Court.

No personal offense, but your aunt sounds very uninformed and downright ignorant when it comes to understanding the Constitution or anything related to firearms.

While I could address a multitude of her listed points, I'd rather sum everything up as it relates to the 2A.

Does she feel that all aspects of the Constitution are irrelevant since the CW? If so, she must oppose all the rulings that have come down from the SCOTUS ever since. If not then let her know that we as citizens of a free Republic do not get to pick and choose which parts of the Constitution we like and disregard the rest. However if society ever decides a certain aspect of it is outdated, there is always the amendment process, which we have used in the past.
Somehow I doubt she will answer that she objects to the 1A or 4A for example, so right there you have won that debate. More importantly try to get her to see beyond what she perceives as a perfect little world she lives in, and try to get her to understand that if the SHTF, only the 2A will be able to protect the rest of our freedoms from being eviscerated.

Lastly, as to her derision of the "corrupt Roberts Court" does she feel the same way about ObamaCare passing with his vote?
I ask because I have no idea what her political bent is, and if she is a left wing partisan, most of the aforementioned will go in one ear & pout the other. Still we should always at least try to persuade the other side lest we become so outnumbered that all our rights and freedoms will be lost to them some day.
It might take a few hundred years, but I can picture a society of defenseless Eloi dependent on someone else to provide for their very existence. While Weena was very hot in the Time Machine, I'd hate to think my future generations living like sheep, waiting for the slaughter.

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[Deanimator]

It might take a few hundred years, but I can picture a society of defenseless Eloi dependent on someone else to provide for their very existence.

"A few hundred years"???

Look at the United Kingdom TODAY.

From wanting to ban pointed TABLE KNIVES to wanting to ban glass BEER MUGS, Britain has been transformed into the world's largest group home.

 

[danez71]

Let's reverse this a moment: Suppose someone were to change any of YOUR minds? Turn you into gun haters? Would it work? Would ANY amount of data, history, logic, head pounding, face punching, change YOUR mind? It wouldn't mine! Some people simply believe what they believe and NO amount of contrary evidence will change it.

Quite possibly YES.

You see, I listen and take into account logic, history, data to make up my own mind. And I'm open minded enough to change.

Otherwise we are doomed to repeat hostorical mistakes and never evolve as a society. We'd still believe the world is flat, and the having a King is great.

Not for me, Thanks.

It just so happens that after looking at the data, logic, and history, it has convinced me that the 2A is a good idea.

 

[JRWhit]

Let's reverse this a moment: Suppose someone were to change any of YOUR minds? Turn you into gun haters? Would it work?

Well of course not. I am right after all.

 

[JFtheGR8]

Ask her for hard facts from peer reviewed sources and not anecdotal sound bytes offered by the liberal media. Look up your own data from credible sources to refute her claims. I believe this approach would impress the most since she is a product of higher education and more than likely influenced by liberal professors. I would bet she's written more than a few research papers during those college years and will understand what's involved with your data mining expedition. If the facts don't work then forget about it as she's unreachable. The bottom line is that we as American citizens have a right, if not an outright obligation, to protect our homes and country.


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[gym]

I'm surprised you got this many responses on what is an obvious personnel problem.

 

[greghvac]

just take her out shooting, see if it changes her mind.

 

[Ignition Override]

greghvac: Thumbs up! This has worked with many people.
But with a small round such as .22LR.

Your idea might be the only way to grab her attention, by using a 'stage prop'.
The OP has nothing to lose.

 

[r1derbike]

People who embrace myopic emotional slant cannot perceive rational, sound logic. They are incapable of separating truth from fiction, because of their bias. They cannot remove themselves from the throes of ignorance, that's how they perceive us. Since when did an anti ever admit they were woefully ignorant, and wrong about their beliefs, branded into their gray matter? It would be like losing their favorite teddy bear toy, or finding out there is no Kris Kringle.

Antis cannot separate fact from fiction, as they have no duty to research the truth, and are blissful in their ignorance. Blissful to be brainwashed by our media, instead of being suspect of everything that is printed, or shown on TV.

They have lost the ability to see the facts, or if they have seen the facts, they dismiss them with a wave of an ignorant hand.

I wish you luck on this conversion attempt. If she concedes a few points, consider it a victory and take her to a range, as she might be more receptive to face her fears.

Good luck!