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Help me save my barrel!!

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing and Repairs' started by RonDeer10mm, Dec 2, 2012.

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  1. RonDeer10mm

    RonDeer10mm Member

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    I'm giving up, I guess you can call this the $165 dollar lesson!
     
  2. RonDeer10mm

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    Mods close this thread. May the barrel r.i.p. :( :uhoh::eek::(
     
  3. gp911

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    If you're just going to pitch it send it to me and I'll try some solvents on it for you, no charge. It's worth trying to save it.
     
  4. btg3

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    I'll give you $10 for the barrel or $155 worth of consulting advice on how to salvage it yourself. ;)

    Seriously, if it were me, I'd invest $3 for a can of acetone from Home Depot and let it soak. You haven't cured it with heat, so I'm thinking it's worth a try.

    All above posted info for toluene, laquer thinner, etc and what removes Durakote or this-and-that is misleading with regard to the specific chemistry of your issue with Cerakote. Learn to recognize dis-information and ignore it.

    Info that is specific to Cerakote is the most likely path to a solution.
     
  5. Mac's

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    Try this: Soak it in Acetone or one of the other solvents suggest here for 24 hours to soften it. None of the solvents listed will damage the barrel but I don't know about acids or paint strippers. Then get a piece of aluminum screen. Cut a circle about 2 inches in diameter. Set up your cleaning rod with a jag that's smaller than what's normally required. In other words: For a 9mm barrel, use an 8 mm jag. Fit the aluminum circle around the head of the jag and push it thru the bore.

    You may have to experiment with the proper size jag, add aluminum circles, etc. to get the right thickness. What you're looking for, is for it to require force to get the tool thru the bore but not hydraulic press type force! Just more than for a normal cloth cleaning patch or bore brush.

    Use aluminum screen. The metal is softer than the metal of the barrel and won't damage the bore. The old Lewis Lead Remover used this same technique. I have used this technique on bores that were really lead fouled and it works fine for that. This is not for regular cleaning, only those bores that are fouled beyond the capabilities of a bore brush and powder/carbon/lead solvents.

    I would NOT shoot it in the condition that it's in. The barrel may be ruined but if a bullet get's stuck in the bore, it may ruin more than just the barrel. (slide, frame, hands, eyes, etc) Keep yer powder dry, Mac.
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  6. Bovice

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    LOL

    It's like a game of clue!

    It was RonDeer10mm, in the garage, with a G20 LW barrel!

    For dissolving something, all you need is a solvent with similar characteristics. "Like dissolves like". I'm curious why you would want to cerakote a stainless barrel anyway.
     
  7. Sam1911

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    [MOD TALK: Had to delete some things that were just absurdly rude. Try to remember that we're at "THE HIGH ROAD" and respond to each other even more politely than you would in person.]

    Ron, there's no need to give up on your barrel. It surely isn't trashed.

    Uncured bake-on finishes aren't impossible to remove. The appropriate thinner will help take it off. Why don't you call the company and ask them?

    Paint strippers won't hurt stainless steel, and may remove the uncured finish in a flash.

    As others have said, some mechanical means may work, or may work with a thinner or stripper to scrub the finish off.

    You surely don't have to pay $165 to learn a lesson here. :)

    (Oh, and for the record, it was I who stripped off cured DuraCoat with carb cleaner, accidentally, but that's a different story. However, a can of carb cleaner is what, $4? That would certainly be worth a try!)
     
  8. Jim Watson

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    You didn't go ahead and bake it, did you?
    If not, probably one or more of the solvents listed will lift the uncured coating and not hurt the barrel.
     
  9. M-Cameron

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    if none of the above techniques help....give this a try....


    essentially you use some VFG pellets coated in JB bore paste and Kriol and scrub the heck out of it.
     
  10. Al Thompson

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    Ron, why is it that you are getting answers and don't appear to be listening? :scrutiny:

    Check your PMs.
     
  11. btg3

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    Al, It remains to be seen as to whether the answers prove to be effective solutions. It would take a signficant amount of time and pocket change to put each suggestion here to the test.

    Does anyone have an idea as as to how to cut through the ineffective and focus on what has the best potential and highest probabilty to deliver the desired result?

    Ron, you have my sympathy for the barrel and the confusing array of home remedies.

    And I also would like to apologize to Sam and others that were offended by my deleted remarks that were posted in a moment of frustration.
     
  12. BBBBill

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    From the tone of Ron's posts and particularly his last one, I suspect that he got so frustrated that he threw the barrel in the garbage and has not been back here to read any follow up.
     
  13. RonDeer10mm

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    The reason I haven't tried acetone or other chemicals is because I soaked it in Hoppes 9 solvent and I'm not sure it it can cause a bad chemical reaction! :what:
     
  14. RonDeer10mm

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    Nope, it was a KKM precision. :(
     
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    Nope, I kept it to remind me of what happens when I choose the easy/sloppy way to do things. :eek:
     
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    I'm kind of worried, but can't acetone discolor the polymer frame if it gets on it?
     
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    Oh and for the record this Cerakote is the air dry cerakote.
     
  18. M-Cameron

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    Ron, if you clean the barrel with well with warm soapy water between 'treatments', i really wouldnt worry about an adverse chemical reaction.....

    also, acetone can damage certain plastics.....but like before, if you clean it well with warm soapy water, you will not have a problem with your frame.
     
  19. Sam1911

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    Wipe the barrel out well (wash it if you want) and there is practically no chance any common solvents are going to react negatively to each other. No worries.

    Do keep acetone off your polymer frame, but your barrel isn't polymer, so no worries.

    I don't think acetone is going to touch this -- at all -- but there's not much reason not to at least try. Personally, though, I'd try a little carb cleaner first (hey, I had "good" luck with it, though by accident!) and then paint stripper (methylene chloride) after that.

    But if it's the air-cure stuff, it may be pretty tenacious. Definitely call them (contact info here: http://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/about/). They've probably been asked this question about 1,000,000 times and will know the best fix.
     
  20. M-Cameron

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    can we get some pictures of the barrel and down the bore?

    from everything ive been reading, the only way to get ceracoat out off is to beadblast it......


    i think the best way to try to fix it would be to let it sit for a week or so in carb cleaner or high strength paint/epoxy stripper......then pour a lead slug down the barrel and try to lap it smooth....
     
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    Do not use methylene chloride or any chloride compounds on stainless steel. Chlorides can affect stainless. As some have said....talk to Cerekote. They should know how to safely remove the material from the barrel.

    Idoono
     
  22. RonDeer10mm

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    Is acetone ok to use? They said it was.
     
  23. paintballdude902

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    listen to them.


    if u decide to go the carb cleaner route make sure its nonchlorinated (or am i thinking of brake cleaner? been a long day)


    this is just me personally.... id check how thick it is and might just shoot it. that is me personally, not telling you to do it.


    id try everything from acetone to strippers and even steel wool and a stripper.
     
  24. M-Cameron

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    yes, acetone is perfectly safe to both the barrel and yourself...



    the reason you dont want to use anything with chlorides is because they can actually cause pitting and erosion on metal (even stainless), they can also from some nasty off-gasses when they warm up( through shooting) which can cause serious health problems.
     
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    For the love of safety, NO! acetone is not "safe...to yourself" -- read and heed the warnings on the label.
     
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