I've got the pistol and pup. When I got them a box sold for $21 now I see them for $30. When I got them, presents from Dear Wife, I also got the dies. I recall that this is a finicky round. I hear that too much polish on the case will affect the load and that the pistol can be easily over pressured. I've seen the blown pistol barrels. I'd still like to try. Any thoughts, links or suggestions?