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Here we go again--H.R. 6257

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Eightball, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. Eightball

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    Text of H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008

    Time to get back in touch with your congresscritters, AGAIN.

    But I do have a question: Section 2, (a) (3)(A), or however this nonsense is cited, is "‘(3) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--""
    Why is the magic date October 1, 1993? Wouldn't that violate ex post facto?

    EDIT: Sorry, this is a super-dupe; I searched for the wrong punctuation before posting, found dupes all over the place after I already posted this. But the "1993" question still bugs me.
     
  2. Frog48

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    No idea. Seems pretty arbitrary.
     
  3. misANTHrope

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    I assume that's the same "made-by" date from the first AWB.
     
  4. Frog48

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    Why are bolt, lever, and pump action guns listed in "Appendix A" anyway? The law only mentions semi-autos, so the other types would already be exempt by default.
     
  5. Hawk

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    D- for reusing the old appendix A without redating.

    It even includes the Barret[sic] bolt action in the "protected" list, just like the first one.
     
  6. BBQLS1

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    Introduced Jun 12, 2008
     
  7. catfish101

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    What constitutes and "antique firearm"?
     
  8. Hawk

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    Compliments of Gunbroker
     
  9. catfish101

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    There isn't very many firearms that fall into the "Antique" category by their definition.

    Thanks Hawk.
     
  10. psyprofessor

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    oops..misread this post.
     
  11. John Wayne

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    Sure there are. Several cap and ball revolvers, build-your-own derringer kits, replica flintlock pistols and the like are included in this. They don't have to be shipped to FFL dealers or registered, and the minimum purchase age is 18, regardless of handgun or long arm.

    There are very few cartridge arms which are considered antique.
     
  12. 5knives

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    A Bill at this stage is highly 'changeable' about the only thing guaranteed to get out of committee (if it ever does.) is the name and the number, contents are wide open.

    Just something for them to change, modify and/or build on as the process continues.

    Please don't make the mistake of thinking the new AWB ban is necessarily going to be ANYTHING like the last one.

    It can be anything they want it to be, and there aren't enough conservative to have any effect at all!

    Personally in light of previous Obama comments, I expect the next ban to much more like the Australian laws than the last one was.

    And please, no mention of Heller, the Heller decision said D.C. residents could have handguns in their homes, and not, as far as I've been told, anything else.

    Sorry!

    Regards,
    :)
     
  13. BBQLS1

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    Right now nothing is moving and it's just hysteria on the part of the pro gun crowd.

    We should keep an eye on it, but it's been sitting in committee for quite awhile. There is probably always something like this in committee since the expiration of the last ban.

    IMO, congress has more important things to work on. I wouldn't expect to see this until the next election.
     
  14. Beren

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    This bill will die with the outgoing Congress. Save your panic buttons for the reauthorization bills sure to be introduced in January/February 2009.
     
  15. Master Blaster

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    Since Mike Castle RINO is my congressman (author of the new ban) I am wasting my breath contacting him. I have in the past and I dont need another copy of his form letter. Two years ago I spoke to him in person and he assured me that he is a big supporter of the second amendment and would never vote for let alone sponsor any ban.

    I contacted his office when this cam up a few months ago and his policy guy told me they were introducing this bill to save us from a democratic measure that would

    "ban all assault weapons and high powered rifle rounds .30-.30 and up permanantly, this way we would get to keep the ones we already have" :barf::barf:
     
  16. MGshaggy

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    Mike Castle is a ...well, I better watch what I say. This IS the High Road. I used to live in DE and had my FFL in Wilmington. As gov, he was a disaster. I can't count how many times I saw him at the YMCA and wanted to do what someone did to Richard Fuld. Not that I really would do such a thing...

    I don't even know how Castle (or the DE republican party) can consider him a republican. I wonder if making noise to the rep. party in DE might help. I'm sure there's other DE republicans who dislike Castle just as much, and if they believe their base to be walking away from their half-witted RINO...
     
  17. MuleBrain

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    This is straight from his web site on the Issues!

    Assault Weapons Ban - Rep. Castle, a long-time supporter of the 1994 Crime Bill, which included the Assault Weapons Ban, has written legislation to extend the ban for 10 more years. This ban has been allowed to expire and Mike Castle believes Congress should immediately reinstate this commonsense measure to keep automatic weapons off the streets.


    Measure to keep "Automatic Weapons Off The Streets"??

    Last time I checked automatic weapons have been illegal since 1934!

    He is misleading the public!

    http://www.castle.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=65
     
  18. Zach S

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    Yeah, it even lists the Mini 14 (w/out folding stock) and Mini 30 (same gun, different caliber, folding stock okay? never could figure that out)
     
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