keeleon:
I work at an elementary school, and I can honestly say I have to agree with this. I seriously doubt any of the kids bringing toy guns to school have the proper training, physically and morally to not do something stupid with them. Are they going to excercise the 4 rules, and not point it at somebody? I know it's just a toy, but if a kid picks up bad habits early on they tend to stick. My kids will have toy guns, as I am a very avid airsofter, but thy will understand that if I catch them being irresponsible with them, they will be beaten.
I know 30 years ago pointing a toy gun at someone and saying "bang" wasn't a big deal, but times have changed, and people react differently. What about toy swords? Let 2 10 year old boys bring toy swords to school, and see how long it takes for them to hit each other with them. Look on the flip side, can you give me a good reason why schools should allow toy guns?
On top of that, have you seen the toy guns nowadays? It is impossible to tell the difference between a $20 airsoft pistol and the real thing from 10 feet away. How many times does "Wolf!" need to be cried before we ignore it, and some kid brings a REAL gun?
I can see where it could be a real problem if kids are allowed to go to school before they know things. Perhaps it might be possible for the school to employee people who undertook to help the kids learn the things they don't know. Then the
kids could be called "students," the people who helped the students learn things could be called "teachers," and when the students moved from grade to grade through to the time they leave school they would have learned a
lot of things they didn't know. Schools were that kind of place at one time.
I can see where it must be much easier to have schools in which
kids are prohibited from learning what they don't already know, but it strikes me that it's an approach that kind of misses the point. Much better, I suspect, to send the
kids to the park until they grow up enough to learn things on their own.
I also "seriously doubt any of the kids bringing toy guns to school have the proper training, physically and morally to not do something stupid with them." They probably don't have the proper training, physically and morally, to drive automobiles or trucks either. I've seen young kids play with toy cars and trucks. Lordy me, it's a horror. They wheel those things over the floor inside the house, over the furniture, and over each other when they have playmates. I shudder to think of the bad habits they're developing that will endure after they get old enough to drive real vehicles. No one will be safe on the streets or even in their homes, what with those young adults crashing through the doors and over the family cat.
Kids also play with toy tools, which I suppose they should not be allowed to do until they are old enough to go through vocational training courses. They play with toy airplanes although I seriously doubt that even one of them has a student pilot certificate or is old enough to have a credit card for aviation fuel. Perhaps worse still, I've seen them play with fake money and pretend to buy things with it: should we be raising potential counterfeiters and check kiters?
Back to toy guns. It wouldn't occur to me to ask "Are they going to excercise the 4 rules, and not point it at somebody?" The last time I paid attention we were talking about young children. Even very young children are sometimes asked what they prefer to eat. I doubt that more than a few of them are nutritionists. When they get a bit older they're asked to vote on activities, class officers, and other decisions. Sometimes they're given mock elections, which might involve campaigns and voting for the Democrat Party presidential nominee of their choice: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Edwards, or Rudolf Giulani. Could more than a handful of those young voters be able to evaluate the issues, know the candidates' positions, understand the Electoral College, and know what Bill Clinton did with Monica Lewinsky last time the Clintons ruled? So I agree that those same children probably couldn't recite and apply the four rules. I know many adults who don't know those rules either but who nevertheless rarely kill more than a few people in the average day.
In the not too distant past, but before the time schools didn't want to help kids learn anything they didn't already know, it was common for kids to bring toys from home--even (God save us!) toy guns. The school's principal, assistant principals, and all the people we called
teachers then gave the kids some fairly simple rules. One rule was "Your toys go in the classroom closet and stay there until recess or the end of the school day." Some kids didn't comply with that rule. The
teacher helped them learn to comply with it. It didn't take long. And the kids learned something! Hot diggety dog. Learning took place then.
In that past, during recess and after school was out kids
did point toy guns at each other. Often they said "Bang bang, you're dead." The shootee would then either fall down or say "No I'm not!" and shoot back with his toy gun or his fingers. None of the kids thought to bleed or die for real, probably because everybody was smart enough to know it was a game, even their teachers. I doubt that more than a handful of those kids--either the shooter or the shootee--went on to become a mass murderer. I played that way when I was a kid. Still haven't murdered anyone or shot anyone unintentionally. Don't plan to do it, and don't have any uncontrollable impulses either except when there's chocolate ice cream in the freezer.
I'm confused by the rest of your reasons for being reluctant to help kids learn in school. In that past I mentioned, elementary school kids and their parents were told that BB guns were not allowed but toys were allowed. (There weren't airsoft guns then.) Hard as it might be to believe this, the parents then did not allow their kids to bring a BB gun to school and the kids did not. Besides, I never knew an elementary school kid who had a BB gun. In any event it was considered unfair to restrict or punish all kids on the earth because some kids didn't behave.
Real guns are a different problem. I accept your suggestion that there's no one in schools today who can distinguish between a real gun and Bozo the Clown. But is there at least one person in some school who could think his or her way through to the recognition that a kid who would bring a real gun to school might do it whether or not toy guns are prohibited? Are the adult occupants of schools all out to lunch?
I hate to drop this additional thought on you but it seems to me that there already are
laws that prohibit real guns in schools. I doubt that many elementary school kids own them anyway, and of those who steal them there can't be many who have concealed weapons permits. If they sneak their stolen shooting irons into school anyway, they're violating several laws already. So you think that a school rule will stop them?
God save us all. This civilization is doomed. It has lost its way and has stumbled into a dismal swamp. Instead of trying to find its way back it goes deeper and deeper into the muck, all the time thinking it is making good progress to some worthwhile destination.