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Here we go - NYS to check social media before issuing gun licenses

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Old Dog, Jul 3, 2022.

  1. DoubleMag

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    ...with all the onerous and ''new'' screening within this obviously fast written law, I believe it will be quickly overturned by SCOTUS.Therefore it's actually more onerous then the original myriad of hoops 1-legged jumpings of the 1st law.

    ''What's the NEXT phase Your Honor? Will NY subsequent law require tubes to be hooked up to the subject-citizen?''

    HOPEFULLY... trying to advert a court decision gains the adverter the ire of the court.
     
  2. Mark_Mark

    Mark_Mark Contributing Member

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    more of a message forum
     
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  3. lionking

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    It's an attack on not only the 2nd but also the 1st and 4th and is a mirror of what they tried to do with creating a "disinformation bureau " in the DHS, so this is not only to try and deny guns but to try and intimidate people from saying any dissent being expressed toward the leftists, and probably create a database somewhere of those that are against the left. Basically their installed "political officers" will judge who may have or may not.
     
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  4. John_R

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    A distinction without a difference.
     
  5. Chaparral

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    A number of countries, including the U.S., require access to social media accounts of visa applicants, so their is already some precedent for this.
     
  6. Otto

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    ^^^ foreign nationals are not required to submit usernames and passwords on immigration applications regarding their social media accounts. So the applicant is free to delete content, change privacy settings, create a new account or simply close it.

    But the problem I have with New York's law is this requirement which you must provide.....

    "(i) names and contact information for the applicant's current spouse, or domestic partner, any other adults residing in the applicant's home, including any adult children of the applicant, and whether or not there are minors residing, full time or part time, in the applicant's home;"
     
  7. tark

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    You got me! You got me good ! :( But at least THIS platform isn't rotting children's brains and destroying the country ! :D

    Besides, you guys know what I mean...
     
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  8. MEHavey

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    :D
     
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  9. Mark_Mark

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    you probably right, I spend too much time here anyways
     
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  10. Old Dog

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    In answer to the question, no. But context is everything, friend. I believe you may have missed my point. Citizens have willingly given up their privacy. That ship has sailed.

    The government has already administratively removed many protections of its citizens privacy that were in place, we got it.

    Big tech and corporations convinced citizens to allow full-time monitoring and mining of all their personal data. Most here understand that as well.

    I understand a fair bit about technology (not how it works, but capabilities and how it's used).

    I have personally witnessed how social media accounts have been used in investigations, disciplinary action, suspensions and termination of government employees. If you are okay with subjecting yourself to the subjective whims of a government employee analyzing your social media content prior to granting you any type of government license (you have "nothing to hide") -- and gun licenses would just be the beginning -- that's your choice.

    We are speaking to authorizing the government to now be able to decide, based on recreational free-speech activities, whether or not we are suitable to be granted licenses or permits. Good luck next time getting that permit to do that work on your property after you've disparaged your dealings with the county online and maybe made some critical comments, subject to interpretation (guy in clerk's office now feels "threatened"), the list can go on and on...
     
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  11. Pudge

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    What is the rational for limiting it to adults? Klebold was 17, do we need to list all the minor shooters? Why don't we research all the minors, compel their usernames and passwords? Are minors somehow protected in a way adult citizens aren't? Our legislators are profoundly fatuous.
     
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  12. John_R

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    The only subject where the left thinks we need privacy is abortion.
     
  13. theotherwaldo

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    The Social Credit Score System needs a trial run.
    This looks like a likely place to try it out... .
     
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    I cannot find a list of the 'social media' that are supposed to be checked. Has that list been defined?
     
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  15. AlexanderA

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    Now I'm wondering if the position of a NY gun owner is actually worse than before the Bruen decision and the reaction to it. Granted, the position of gun owners in the rest of the country is better. But are the NY gun owners our sacrificial lambs?
     
  16. Insignificant bill

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    It isn't going to stand
     
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  17. Wolfshead

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    being a NYer, I will say it is absolutely worse without question.
    Unfortunately, I don’t see a quick end to it and I’m not in a position to leave this State anytime soon.
    I will vote against the people who are taking our rights away but the Albany, NYC, and Long Island voters out number the rest of the State so I don’t see much changing there.
    Not sure what else to do but hope and pray….
     
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  18. John_R

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    They really should split NYS into two states.
     
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  19. GEM

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    The decision absolutely made carry worse as it will wipe out useful carry in the entire state. Will the new rules be overturned in less than several years? I dunno.
     
  20. tarosean

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    How so? People put it on the internet for anyone to read.
     
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    And what other guaranteed right is subject to such scrutiny?
     
  23. Howland937

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    Glad to not be in NY. I'd really hate for all those topless selfies I posted years ago to come back and bite me. Oh wait...he said 3 years? I'm good then. Haven't posed topless since the kid came along.

    Good luck to the folks that have to sift through pages upon pages of what I had for every meal in the last 3 years. And every new shirt, pair of shoes or gathering of more than 3 people. You know...us influencers are really important. To ourselves o_O

    Hopefully THR counts as social media, so they'd realize I'm even more boring than they initially thought.
     
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  24. Insignificant bill

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    First they are going to be sued and an injunction will be filed. This blatently violates the Constitution.
     
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  25. Wolfshead

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    One can only hope and pray! It is talked about almost yearly but nothing ever really comes of it.


    I’m curious as to how long it will take for an injunction to happen. Sooner than later, but again one can only hope and pray!
     
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