Discussion in 'Activism Discussion and Planning' started by JellyJar, Sep 26, 2011.
I am not worried about Cain. He gets freedom. I am also a supporter of his.
The absence of 2A position on his website is disappointing.
Herman Cain at 2011 NRA meeting.
Never addresses guns but does gun owners.
Here's the primary source for his view on the states making the concealed carry laws. Look, he's clearly a Consitutionalist and a patriot, I would have zero concerns with him in the White House. He's my #1 candidate.
It speaks volumes about his character.
Even in the NRA video linked above he doesn't speak about the individual 2A and the RKBA.
I sent an email request through the hermaincain.com website (http://www.hermancain.com/contact-us) asking if they would point me to his 2A position on the website. I'm still waiting for a response simply pointing out where it is addressed on his own website.
it is hard to believe that one that speak to the NRA, supports the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment is not pro gun. It would be incongruent.
It sounds like he misspoke during a fast paced interview.
I am not the only one that works on this supposition.
Like everyone else, I will wait and see...but I am not going off in a tizzy...just yet anyway.
Without a clear RKBA statement from him/his campaign we shouldn't make any assumptions about what his position is or isn't. Making an assumption based on party affiliation or broader issues is no assurance of a politician's support of the full range of pro-RKBA positions.
The only thing that matters to me is the politicians stance on the Second Amendment-nothing else. i could care less that the pro-gun politician is a fire breathing Protestant preacher or a lesbain Wiccan whos had two abortions. The pro-gunner will get my vote every time.
Folks, it's really easy to Google this stuff up. Here's Cain on Wolf Blitzer. Start at 3 minutes, 25 seconds. Cane gave definitive, concise answers to Blitzer's questions. Now tell me Cain supports our Second Amendment rights. Cain will not get my vote-ever.
but making assumptions based on core beliefs, like individual liberty, is a decent bet.
I will be shocked if Cain comes out as a gun control nazi.
But like you...I will wait and see.
Mr. Cain's position on the 2A is the question at hand, not what other candidates have said.
Should support for our Second Amendment rights be considered a so called "core belief"? i think it should.
I assume that everyone here thinks that 2A support should be a core requirement for a political candidate, but what actually constitutes "2A support" can be different from one candidate to another, just like it is for our members here.
The members of THR have different opinions about whether the 2A allows for any limitation on the ownership of any sort of "arms". Opinions range from no limitations (artillery, tanks, armed aircraft fully allowed) for anyone by any governmental body to some who think small arms that the Fed can't regulate, but States may, is the limit of the 2A. If we have a range of interpretations of the 2A why not expect the candidates to have a range of "pro-2A" stances?
As such, "my" candidate's "pro-2A" position may be far more restrictive than "your" candidate's "pro-2A" position. That's why I prefer to see a clear position statement in writing bounding the position before I assume a candidate and I are in agreement on this issue.
Sadly what we may be get is a bunch of people that pay lip service so as to get elected.
Hopefully Cain will respond soon
According to Wikipedia: "He believes states have the right to control gun rights" --BS! Don't vote for him, I wont.
Here's a tiny bit of explanation from Cain. It's about 10:15 into the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOUF1Hug0JI
I'd still like more specifics on what he thinks is allowable and what isn't.
Don't "guess", find out.
The 2A is too important to go on vague feelings and impressions. Too many people don't take the time to find out what the facts are and end up being sold a bill of goods.
Link to Cain at Pittsburgh NRA Convention
the link in post #47 is specific.
Cain addresses this issue directly.
Says that the States have no right to limit firearm ownership, but they can do things like background checks.
Should be a state issue......? Hmmmmm.....
Unless you live in New Jersey.
It looks like there is a silver lining around the storm cloud that is Cain's platform.
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So he thinks that the states should be able to require background checks, but does he think the individual should have to pay to exercise the right guaranteed under the BOR and is a right you have to pay for a right?
"Folks, it's really easy to Google this stuff up. Here's Cain on Wolf Blitzer. Start at 3 minutes, 25 seconds. Cane gave definitive, concise answers to Blitzer's questions. Now tell me Cain supports our Second Amendment rights. Cain will not get my vote-ever."
Hello? I listened to the interview and Cain stated concisely that he supported the 2nd amendment and was against any laws to restrict a citizens' right to own a firearm. I support this man.
The latest on Cain at GOA's site:
Herman Cain Soars to the Top of the Republican Field.
But where does he stand on the Second Amendment?
I don't think Cain is some sort of rabid gun-grabber, but I'd like to see Cain address the points raised in this letter:
In fact, I'd like to see all of the candidates take Codrea's questionnaire.
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