Somehow the arguments that just because someone doesn't enjoy something therefore it ought to be illegal still reigns strong in some people's thinking. You would think they would learn.
I don't think I recall anyone saying this should be illegal...I think that responsible adults with a respect for wildlife
should know better.
Some of y'all northerners just live in a completely different reality, and thats ok. Just don't move down here, we enjoy our culture. Its been going strong for a while now. Seems like every time that a northern "emotion" gets in the mix, we end up losing alot, and I hate that. Thats not aimed at all of y'all up there, just the ones to whom it would obviously apply on this thread, and similar entities.
Living in a different reality would be most Northerners being unable to see the
need for folks to hunt and live off of the land. That gap is losing space as we move forward to an age where every small farm is replaced by a Wal-Mart, but that mentality and the lack of understanding, with all of our metro-convenience still has a tendency to prevail. That's more of a rural VS urban thing, not a North VS South thing.
Living in a different reality would be a urbanite not understanding that some folks out in the thick of things need to kill stray dogs before they group up, form a pack mentality and go after your livestock or your family. We usually call the pound. That's more of an urban/rural thing instead of North and South.
Living in a different reality would be a Northern urbanite being unable to understand an extreme hatred for illegal immigrants coming from Mexico. After all, they don't have to see it first hand and deal with it. Hatred is a bit extreme, but I can understand the emotion tied up into something like that.
Living in a different reality would be someone from Pennsylvania not understanding what it's like to be in a hurricane, and someone from Florida not understanding what it's like to be stuck in a blizzard.
Not seeing the binding and boxing of an animal to be shot at by folks who may or may not have been drinking alcohol is not a different reality. At least, not how I see it. Despite being a dirty Yankee, I have a deep respect for animals and mother nature. No, I'm not a tree huger, I support logging, oil drilling, industrialization, but I also support respect for the things you take form this earth, plant, animal and mineral. Just because an animal is dumb does not give one the right to brush off the needless mechanisms some use to kill it in the name of fun, sport or charity. Like 1911Tuner said, it's not about the kill, it's about the hunt...when you remove the hunt, it's about killing. Killing and charity just don't wash in my opinion, and that has nothing to do with regionalism or geographic location, because I know many, many folks from the south that are appalled by this type of behavior, and I am aware that similar behavior occurs up north as well, even in my home state of PA.
I know I used some very extreme examples earlier, they were arguably useless, so let's get serious for a second here and consider this:
Would it be fair to hog tie a deer, put it in a box with its head sticking out and let folks pay $2.00 to take a shot at it from 200-300 yards? The deer will be hunted during deer season and die anyway. And by the qualifications in this thread, deer are stupid animals (they wander into obvious highways and traffic, run into windows, hang out at rifle and pistol ranges rather often), and after all, they're just animals, and we're human, and at the top of the food chain. So is that fair to do? Is it right?
What about a cow? They die in slaughter houses under pretty rough circumstances just like turkeys. To say that any living creature is a lesser organism to justify the actions taken against it is a serious flaw in character as far as I am concerned. You do what you do because you need to, and you do it in the best way possible, otherwise, find some paper or steel to shoot at.
The whole argument "every time someone does this we lose face" will just as quickly be applied to open carry, ferel hog hunts, and teaching my (hypothetical) four year old how to shoot his first .22.
Even though it’s a valid point, I don't much like it either. I have no opposition to anything stated in the above paragraph, which again shows that you cannot water this down into a North VS South thing.
I'm not hurting your rights, just your tender emotions. Sorry, cry by yourself or others like you, but please don't try and badger, bully, or bludgen me into adopting your weakened emotional state.
This is a little too dismissive, don't you think? No one is badgering or bullying anyone here, the OP brought this up in an open public discussion forum. Simply not agreeing with you is not coercion. and to call it a "weakened emotional state" is a pretty flimsy tactic, perhaps we're enlightened and have more respect for the bounties of this earth?
By the way, they were having some great turkey shoots up in eastern Pennsylvania and upstate NY two hundred years ago no problem; are you going to say that the likes of Washington, Jefferson, etc were less "sophisticated" then you? Yeah right. I simply hold that you have been "tenderized".
Lots of people did lots of thing in the past, that in no way justifies the present. Julius Caesar had sex with young men and boys. Some of our founding fathers owned slaves, some important Americans in history beat their wives or engaged in promiscuity. None of those things are morally, socially or maybe even legally acceptable today. Distasteful or callous acts committed in the past by great men in no way transform the acts into honorable in the present. And I don't see how anyone can logically make the comparison with a straight face.
If you do not like this then don't do it and leave everyone else alone. Kinda like just change the dang channel. Good Grief!
