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Hello everyone,
Was reading my monthly American Rifleman magazine and saw an ad for this company. I've never heard of them, or seen any of their products. I looked them up at http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/ and checked out some of their stuff. It looks like they have Autoloader pistols and carbines. They're prices seem cheap, and they claim to be American made.

Anyone own, have an expirence with, or know about Hi-Point firearms?
Just curious!
 
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You just opened up a huge can of worms, haha. Gun snobs just love to hate Hi-Point, and more than half of the time, I'd say they're justified. I've owned a few of their pistols, and let me say, you get what you pay for. They are heavy, ugly (in my opinion), and some jam like it's all they were made for. BUT some function great, they come with lifetime warranties, the price is cheap, and I hear that the carbine is actually a great shooter, in spite of the quality of the pistols. I've personally owned the .45 and the 9mm. Both were accurate, but were extremely inconsistent in reliability. I'll stick to my gun-snob approved Kimber and Beretta, if I wish to throw some .45acp and 9mm down at a target. Take my advice as a previous owner: Save the $$$ and buy something a thousand times nicer at only twice the price. But as I said, some people really love them.
 
I'll stick to my gun-snob approved Kimber and Beretta
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LOL, Yeah... Lotsa luck with that :scrutiny: :p

Don't waste your time with the .380. Actually, make that any .380.

There's a slowly building aftermarket for them: At first it was just holsters, then triggers, stocks, grips, magazines, et c.. People are going to start accumulating money, and are going to start getting sentimental about those bricks that got them to the range to shoot, and they are going to want to upgrade. So expanding the market for parts isn't much of a stretch.
 
Wow. Can-O-Worms doesn't do it justice, but as of right now those lucky enough to own a $1000+ Gold Cup (Insert Manufacturer and Model here) haven't posted yet.

Online you'll read countless stories, all by the same guys, about how much they hate Hi-Points. That being said, on the range I've yet to hear the same thing. Everyone who paid under $200 for a pistol or around $200 or the carbines and takes them to the range loves them. Cheap and fun to shoot.

If anything ever goes wrong with a Hi-Point, Hi-Point Firearms has a lifetime guarantee on all of their products. Send it back, and if they can't fix it they'll send you a new one.

With value like that I can't imagine who wouldn't own one just for the fun.
 
I've put over 1,000 rounds of freloads through mine with only one failure to feed. I'm impressed. Keep in mind that there is a break in period. Many who have problems with them fail to follow the proper break procedure that is written in the manual and/or have problems and instead of fixing it (usually a feeding problem that is due to the magazine needing some adjustment) easily, they just complain loudly.
 
What do you think, can you put Kel-tek in the same category as Hi point? Or just one step up. I have the sub 2000 in 9mm. very functional and utilitarian.
 
There's one of the 9mm carbines at a local store in the used rack that I kind of want to buy, but I haven't seen any aftermarket or factory hi cap mags. 10 rounds isn't going to make it for me. The ideal 9mm rifle solution would be either a Beretta CX4 or a Kel Tech that takes beretta mags, as I have a bunch of 15 and 17 round mags already.


I'm probably going to end up with one of the .22 assault type rifles, just due to the cheap ammo. The Sig 522 looks like it will be the one.
 
I've owned one for about a year, and I love it (995 Rifle). Shoots like a dream. Strangely enough, the only jams i've ever had were when I bragged about it at the range. Sure enough, right after singing it's praises the next mag would jam at least once. After that it'll go back to shooting flawlessly until the next time I brag about it. It even remembers, I tried switching to shooting my 10/22 and then came back to it...Shot one mag, jammed once, and never again.

10 rounds is just right for me. Keeps my 50 round boxes nice and even. Hell, I only load 5 rounds at a time when shooting it anyways.

I keep mine loaded for HD/pest control. Would trust my life to it anyday. As long as I haven't bragged about beforehand, that is.
 
I've had one, a C-9, 9mm, for about six years or so. I got it about the time I got my CC permit. I haven't shot it in ages, but when I first got it, I was determined to see just how bad it was. Ammo was fairly cheap then, and I was working steady, so I put about 2,000 rounds through that silly thing before I got bored with it and quit. I had a total of six malfunctions (jams) in that time. Four of those came out of one box of reloaded ammo, so I blamed the ammo. FMJ and HP, it didn't care. It just worked.

Some people say they're hard to field stip for cleaning. Field strip? You're kidding? I cleaned it with a can of WD-40, or Break-Free and a paper towel and a Q-tip. It just chugged along.

How does it compare to a Kel-Tec? Well, I had a Kel-Tec P-11, 9mm back then too. It's not quite apples to oranges, but they are different. The KT is better made, but cost about twice as much, so I'd expect it to be. The KT is a smaller and lighter. The KT was harder to shoot, and not as much fun to shoot. The KT's longer trigger, heavier D/A trigger, and it's short sight radius, made it harder, and the light weight made it kick a lot more. My arm would actually tingle after more than 50 rounds with the P-11. The big heavy C-9 High Point on the other hand didn't bother me at all. I could shoot it about as well as I can any other 9mm handgun.

The KT is long gone. Traded off for something I wanted more. The Hi-Point isn't worth enough to bother to trade, so it's still here, still in it's cardboard box, looking no worse for wear. I figure if the blue helmets or the zombies ever come, I'll pass it out to somebody as we make our last stand. :D
 
I have the 995 carbine and it is a sweet little gun. I put a red dot on it and its deadly out to 75 yards. I have a buddy who has the C9 and he loves it.
 
For the price they're hard to beat. I wouldn't trust my life to them, but for plinking and pest control, I'd say they would do fine.

The no-questions-asked lifetime warranty is pretty nice too. I don't know if any other company does that...

Just don't expect it to become a collector's item
 
I bought a C9 years ago before I had any other pistols. I hunted and had long guns, but no pistols. I was out of work after a heart surgery with no income coming in and needed protection in a small easily handled package. The C9 filled the bill quite well. After getting on my feet afterwards I have been able to purchase much more expensive pistols ,which has relegated the C9 to the safe for the most part. It was reliable and accurate and I had no issues with it.

I shot it with a good friend who was a retired Marine Major. He loved it and so I will probably give it to him the next time I visit. We went through several hundred rounds in one session with no problems and he has since called to see what brand and model it was.

I really like their carbines as well and would purchase one with no hesitation if the price was right.
 
Hahaha.

Spend the extra $100 and buy a better firearm.

If you're looking cheap and works, look at a Kel-Tec.

And don't listen to the Kimber kids. They're just mad because their $1400 1911's aren't broken in yet, after 35,000 rounds. :neener:
 
These guys pretty much sum it all up, as I said in my first post: They have many cons, but a few pros that simply make them worth the low cost. I have nothing against cheap guns, though. I have a Kel-Tec P11 and I love it. I paid 250 new for it, and with the MecGar 12 rnd magazines, a mini-hogue rubber grip and a pinkie mag extension, they are very nice to shoot. I don't know if a few of the Kimber jabs were at me, but I traded a custom Ruger 10/22 and 100 bucks for my Kimber Custom II 1911, and after 600 rounds, I've still had no malfunctions (what break in? haha)... even if I do ever get some, it's not like I have much invested; pretty much the same attitude a guy has to buy a Hi-Point with.
 
Right. A high-point is a fine gun, but a lot of people look at guns as a dual item. Its a gun and an investment. For a lot of guns that's true. Hi point guns are just guns. But, they're good for the price.
 
Here's the thing: when you buy a cheap pistol, there's going to be the chance you'll have to "buff" out some problems.

Of course you could have done like I did with my Sccy, and ended up with an excellent shooter.

As far as hi-points go....yes there's lots of Zamak (die-cast zinc alloy), and I do mean a lot of it, however due to how heavily built the Zamak parts are, they're durable. The pistol is not meant to be taken apart, just used and sent in under warranty as needed (and their warranty, like all teh low-buck makers, is no questions asked).

Really, for a person that needs a good home defense pistol....buy one, run the typical "new gun" 2-3 boxes of FMJ through it, if it likes it, run 50 rds of your home defense ammo through it to verify proper function with that ammo, then load it up and keep it in the nightstand's lockbox. IMo they're too darn heavy to carry on the person.
 
I have no experience with their pistols, but I do have a 995TS, and it's quickly becoming my favorite gun. It's accurate, and just fun to shoot; very reliable. Sights are very nice, and I like the balance and handling. Yeah, the trigger is weird. Front sight block may need aligned (and it will anyway once you disassemble the gun). Hard to disassemble, but they don't recommend you do it often anyway. I got mine for $250+ new. I had a cheapo red dot on mine, but took it off; I shoot better with the irons now. I replaced the front sight with a fiber optic that I fabricated at home and I like it a lot.

If I had to guess at Hi-Point's design philosophy, I'd say, "Cheap and reliable."
 
I have a 995 carbine. I put the ATI stock on it and a Simmons red dot.
Gun: $150
Stock: $64
red dot: $24
Not a bad little setup for the investment. Loads of fun shooting.
Also, there are extended mags available. I got 2 15-rounders from Promag. They say they won't work with the ATI stock, but you've just got to take the plastic down about 1/8-inch on the corners.
 
I think the best way to sum up Hi-Point guns is: "They Work".

It's a gun at its most basic; a functional tool. You know when you run into the hardware store because you need "a hammer" and you don't really care what kind of hammer it is, so long as it's cheap and works? Well, the Hi-Point is that hammer. It gets the job done for a low price.
 
I have heard they have excellent customer service to go along with that lifetime warranty, which applies anyone (not just the original owner).
 
I own a 9MM Hi-Point and have put a little over a thousand rounds through it with no problems. I love it. I do have to admit it is ugly looking, but ugly isn't the business end. It shoots, it hits the target and I can't complain. I plan on getting the .45 version real soon.
 
I tried one at the range, belonging to a friend. It malfunctioned several times. They are hideous, and are made with lots of zinc. They don't make them out of zinc because it a quality metal, but because it is CHEAP. Seriously you can do better. Look for a decent used pistol for a little more.
 
For the same money, there are a dozen or more Soviet Block pistols that are far more reliable, durable, concealable and ergonomic.
 
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