Hi-Point pistols....love them, hate them? Your experience?

[Onward Allusion]

rtz
I wonder if the hipoints could be refined? Maybe smaller, lighter, not need that roll pin driven out for take down? Could the trigger be smoothed out?

If the slide was made out of a different material so it could be smaller? The barrel is pretty decent?

Lifetime warranty, +P rated, can be had new for near $100.. Made in Ohio.

If they MKS Supply made a Hi Point in 22LR at the HP price point of ~$175, they would sell 100,000 of them in 1 year.

 

[DeadFlies]

I wonder if the hipoints could be refined? Maybe smaller, lighter, not need that roll pin driven out for take down? Could the trigger be smoothed out?

If the slide was made out of a different material so it could be smaller? The barrel is pretty decent?

Lifetime warranty, +P rated, can be had new for near $100.. Made in Ohio.

People have replaced the roll pin with a screw. It can be done. I did a trigger job on my C9; it's shorter, smoother and lighter but still not great.

If you like to tinker with your guns then a Hi-Point will bring you endless hours of shadetree gunsmithing fun. I love taking mine apart and trying to make it better. It's cheaper and more fun than watching TV.

 

[pockets]

I also bought a C9 a few years ago out of curiosity.
It was ugly, a tad bulky, a bit heavy, and the sights could have been better.......BUT.......It functioned 100% on any 9x19 that I put in the magazine and hit what I aimed at.
Are there better guns available? Sure. But they fill a need and are lovingly built in America by Ohioans.
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[foghornl]

I don't own any Hi-Point arms, but through the courtesy of my informal Shooting Budds (we call ourselves 'The Cheap Galoots') I have shot most of the Hi-Point offerings in both pistols and carbines.

My impressions: Pig-butt-stuck-in-a-mud-fence ugly, but goes Bang! on request every time, and puts the lead where you aim, or Hi-Point fixes it free. If approximate $200 for a handgun or under $400 for a carbine was all I had to spend, sure.

 

[meanmrmustard]

People have replaced the roll pin with a screw. It can be done. I did a trigger job on my C9; it's shorter, smoother and lighter but still not great.

If you like to tinker with your guns then a Hi-Point will bring you endless hours of shadetree gunsmithing fun. I love taking mine apart and trying to make it better. It's cheaper and more fun than watching TV.

Be cool if one could find a tiny hitch pin to fit in place of the roll pin, but I'm not certain one is made that small. Plus, it might snag and come out.

I tried. Well, tried to give a suggestion.

I've owned one. They ain't bad. I'd rather a CZ82 in that price range.

 

[HKGuns]

I have zero experience with High Point's, but I know you generally get what you pay for......There is a law of diminishing returns as well.

That being said, there really is no such thing as a bad pistol or rifle and "any" pistol or rifle is better than "no" pistol or rifle.

If that is what you can afford I would imagine you or most anyone else who buys them puts them to good use and they must sell more than enough to stay in business.

 

[dcar_roll]

Have one in 9mm and one in 40s&w. Both go bang when I pull the trigger and hit where aimed.

 

[allin]

Hi
I own a c9 and have had it for 5 years. Never a problem with it. It is not a "braggin rights" piece while at the range, but I know quite a few others who own and shoot them. The people who actually own and shoot them are very happy with these guns overall. I also have a Taurus PT 92 9mm, and a XDm 3.8 9mm. All of these are more accurate than I am and are fun to shoot. Currently the XDm is my favorite when going to the range. I used it for the CCW qualifying class and had not problems, used it simply because it was new and cool to show the others in the class. My c9 would have done a great job also. The c9, for some strange reason, has ergonomics that suit me better than most of my other handguns. I have about 12 in various calibers nad types, revolvers and semi autos. The closest gun for "feel" to me is the XDm as far as the c9 ergonomics go. Most of the semi autos I have seen have a similar look so I am not sold on the c9 being ugly. It does look functional and is.
Just my 2 cents.

 

[Deen Macheen]

I've had 2. Liked them both. Sold the 45 ACP to a buddy who still shoots it. I still own the C9 9mm. Don't like that it won't handle hp loads, but I shoot LRN through it and it works just fine. That's why this is America. If you don't like it, don't buy it. If others buy it, don't deigrate them.

I would support anyone with a Hi Point that wanted to learn to shoot it before helping out any lefty who wanted to ban hi cap magazines. Let's keep the energy and the fight pointed in the right direction. Anybody that wants to buy a gun and learn to shoot it is on the right side.

 

[Airbrush Artist]

The Most fun I ever had was with a UGLY Girl...

 

[Kiln]

Don't hand cycle live ammo through them. It isn't safe because of the design.

 

[justice06rr]

for around $200, I would rather go with a Keltec or Taurus instead of a Hipoint.

I have shot a friend's Hipoint C9. Although it worked for the most part, it was just bulky and unrefined. Trigger sucks and the build quality was not that great. His front sight fell off once so he had to call the manufacturer to send him a replacement.

 

[Kiln]

for around $200, I would rather go with a Keltec or Taurus instead of a Hipoint.

I have shot a friend's Hipoint C9. Although it worked for the most part, it was just bulky and unrefined. Trigger sucks and the build quality was not that great. His front sight fell off once so he had to call the manufacturer to send him a replacement.

Hell I've seen the front sight fall off of a Glock model 22 once myself so it happens to guns that cost more than $150 sometimes.

All firearm makers have lemons and for approximately 1/3 the cost of a Glock/XD, you've got to expect some minor issues.

In the end Hi Point pistols accomplish what they're being made for, identical to what the old H&R pistols were made for, which is giving broke working citizens the ability to own a gun.

If you've ever been so broke it was hard to put back $75, you can appreciate guns like the Raven MP25 or Hi Point line. If you've never been that broke, you'll probably never understand.

 

[Onward Allusion]

If you've ever been so broke it was hard to put back $75, you can appreciate guns like the Raven MP25 or Hi Point line. If you've never been that broke, you'll probably never understand.

Very well said. The thing about a HP is that they function as well as most guns. With FMJ, they are pretty much flawless operationally. With HP, sometimes a fluff & buff is needed. The biggest challenge I've heard about and experienced myself were with the magazines. Sometimes they need a little tweaking, but usually they just need to sit for a week days fully loaded to operate @ 100%.

 

[USAF_Vet]

for around $200, I would rather go with a Keltec or Taurus instead of a Hipoint.

I have shot a friend's Hipoint C9. Although it worked for the most part, it was just bulky and unrefined. Trigger sucks and the build quality was not that great. His front sight fell off once so he had to call the manufacturer to send him a replacement.

Is the front sight fixed? As in molded into the slide? The .45 Hi Point I owned had a fixed front sight. The only way it could fall off is if it broke.

 

[DeadFlies]

Is the front sight fixed? As in molded into the slide? The .45 Hi Point I owned had a fixed front sight. The only way it could fall off is if it broke.

Yeah, I call shenanigans on that post too.

The front sight is part of the slide. It isn't a separate piece that can just fall off and Hi-Point can't just send you a replacement front sight. Rear sight, yes, but not the front one.

 

[Texshooter]

I bought one years ago just to see for myself.

Has sat in the safe for years.

Heavy and I hated to clean it BUT guess what?

It never once failed in any respect, not once.

As accurate as others, of course not.

But for some people (good, decent, hard working or out of work people) this is what they can afford.

How arrogant of some in our community to say - "well, just save up" THEY ALREADY HAVE SAVED UP AND THIS IS WHAT THEY COULD GET YOU JERKS.

This is not the best of our 2nd loving friends when we can not encourage others who want to exercise the same rights, and quite frankly, those doing it should be ashamed.

 

[TheReiver]

A pal has one and as ugly as it is he's never had a mechanical problem with it. The trigger sucks but meh. I actually like the sights.

I think the above post gave solid advice: save your pennies a bit longer and get a used poly pistol.

 

[MarshallDodge]

I bought one years ago just to see for myself.

Has sat in the safe for years.

Heavy and I hated to clean it BUT guess what?

It never once failed in any respect, not once.

As accurate as others, of course not.

But for some people (good, decent, hard working or out of work people) this is what they can afford.

How arrogant of some in our community to say - "well, just save up" THEY ALREADY HAVE SAVED UP AND THIS IS WHAT THEY COULD GET YOU JERKS.

This is not the best of our 2nd loving friends when we can not encourage others who want to exercise the same rights, and quite frankly, those doing it should be ashamed.

Nice rant. Very highroad of you.

 

[Deer_Freak]

I am a HI Point owner. I have had problems with the magazines dragging on the bottom of the slide. Just a few minutes with a file fixes that problem. I would recommend a Hi Point to a friend that needed a truck gun or a night stand gun. A gun that actually works for less than $200 is very hard to beat.

People that bash Hi Point products have most likely never owned one or they could not bash the guns in good conscience. Hi Points work and have a lifetime warranty. There is nothing to bash! To be frank if you threw a Glock and a Hi Point in a pile of cordless drills you would have a hard time finding either gun.

 

[meanmrmustard]

Nice rant. Very highroad of you.

What's not about it?

He's actually quite right, if not showing a little too much fervor in his overuse of capitalization. Last I've read, he's broken no rules.

If a new gun with a lifetime warranty that runs (solely on brass IME) and is at least combat accurate can be had by someone with low income, why not? I suggested milsurp pistols in that price range, most of which are underpowered compared to the Hi Point, and have no warranty.

It's easy to say "save up and hold out for more", but realization is that any gun is better than no gun, and a Hi Point is better than most in that logic of reasoning. While considered a "Saturday Night Special", I know many who'll not throw theirs away or sell. They love them.

 

[s10ryan]

ive had one for years...yes they are cheap but they accurate and dependable. even though they are heavy they are balanced well enough for great accuracy!

 

[CajunBass]

If you've ever been so broke it was hard to put back $75, you can appreciate guns like the Raven MP25 or Hi Point line. If you've never been that broke, you'll probably never understand.

Amen this. I remember being so broke I couldn't afford a Raven, or a RG-22. And they sold for about $30.00 back then.

His front sight fell off once so he had to call the manufacturer to send him a replacement.

I think you might be confused here. As others have said, the front sight can't fall off. Maybe it was the rear one.

Either way, what does that prove? Back in the day, Colt Gold Cup, 1911's were famous for the front sight falling off. That doesn't mean Colt made bad guns.

Maybe smaller, lighter, not need that roll pin driven out for take down?

I guess I've just never understood peoples fastination with taking everything apart to clean it. Just spray some Gunscrubber on it and wipe what you can reach with a Q-tip and be done with it. And I didn't do that but so often.

 

[steveb4c]

bought a C9 years ago because i was broke, but wanted something around the house. never could get it to run right. sold it for a $10 loss and went out and picked up a new maverick 88 12ga. that worked much better. over the years i have bought better used guns for about the same price as new HP's.

 

[TimboKhan]

I have so broke that I almost moved into a homeless shelter back in 2000. I know what it's like to not be able to save money because there wasn't any to be saved.

Hi Points, for all the crap people give them, work. If you can afford a better gun, or if you can put some money away, they do that and buy a better gun. If you can't, a hi point will probably fill the bill for you.

And that is the end of this thread as it is showing all the tell tale signs of becoming another hi-point love/hate thread. Three pages of opinions are enough to get the basic message out. So, sorry people, but I am closing this before it becomes something nasty.