HI Point Polymers

[CarlJ]

Anybody shot one? What are they about?

 

[mgmorden]

Use the search function. Hi Points have been discussed on this and other boards to the point that there's little more that needs to be said.

 

[Kiln]

Be prepared for this to be closed. A mod excercised a "pre emptive" thread lock about Hi Points just because it might become a gun bashing thread. Hey, lets ban cars and beer because somebody might decide to drink and drive.

Hi Points are affordable and are a pretty good value for the money. I've never personally owned one but generally their reputation is pretty good, even on these forums. Some owners feel strongly about their zamak construction and as such are very vocal about their dislike for them, even though they've never tried one.

 

[CarlJ]

I just became aware that they offer a polymer auto. Interesting. I am thinking a permanent truck gun.

 

[Inazone]

I've shot a friend's Hi-Point C9 a couple of times and didn't care for the feel or trigger at all, but accuracy was as good as anything else I fired that day (numerous Beretta, S&W and CZ semi-autos) and he said that it reliably shot any ammo he fed it. While I didn't care for THAT gun, I did buy a 995TS carbine a few months ago and couldn't be happier. Ugly? Absolutely. Lots of plastic and pot metal? Sure. But it's accurate, isn't picky with ammo, and the lifetime warranty - which by all accounts is the "real deal" - makes it a virtually risk-free purchase.

 

[Robbins290]

I have a carbine and 9c. They perform 100% of the time. Tho they are like holding a brick. I mite get one in 45 some day

 

[CountryUgly]

They work and they are cheap. Not much else to say about them. I will advise you to not try and use the hi-cap mags intended for the carbine. They fit but will wreck your firing pin.....

 

[rammerjammer]

I have no experience with their pistols but I do have one of their 9mm Carbines and love it. Yup, it's ugly, but it eats up anything I feed it and is very accurate.

People will bash them all the time but when you read actual owners' reports they are generally very favorable.

So in short, they're ugly and inexpensive but they work.

 

[smokey30725]

hi point

I had a C9 that I bought new for 100 otd at a small pawnshop. Bought it on a whim because of all the negative press I heard about them. I never could get it to jam. I even tried limp wristing it and shooting it sideways (the way the cool guys on tv do) and it just kept on going. I consider them a great value for the money.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I never could get it to jam.

I paid six times as much for a handgun that choked on the second shot.

The only Hi-Point I have "trigger time" on is a friend's older style 9mm carbine. It put all the bullets where I wanted them to go with no stoppages.

 

[callenlee]

First gun I bought was a C9 last year. As others have said, they aren't the prettiest gun (though I've seen some more renowned pistols that look similar) and do have a pretty heavy trigger. I like mine and it goes bang pretty much everytime I pull the trigger and is pretty accurate. The biggest complaint I would have (and I'm sure you'll see it from others too) is that stripping them for a good cleaning is an absolute pain in the posterior. Nevertheless, for the money and with their customer service reputation I'd say they're a pretty good value.

It's not a 1911, CZ, etc., but I plan to hang on to mine even after I upgrade to a SA/DA hammer fired 9mm.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

What they're about is an affordable handgun for someone who needs one but only has $150-$180 (average "'street' price" in my area, depending on caliber) to spend and no more.

 

[marv]

I bought the polymer 9 out of curiosity. Well built, good shooter, accurate, no ugleir than lots of high $$ guns. My only complaint is that due to age and arthritis I find it nearly impossible to rack the slide. So..... I have a $150 safe queen.

 

[Triplec]

My first gun was a c9. Like has already been said, mine was 100% reliable which is more than I can say for a couple guns I spent much more money on. Boy was my c9 heavy and ugly =)

 

[mcdonl]

Carl, good people make them.

PRO's - Lifetime no questions asked warranty, reliable, accurate and obviously affordable.

Low magazine capacity, heavy and due to the weight of the slide probably more felt recoil than necessary for a gun of it's size and requires tools to take down so not good in competition type settings..

I have a C9 and 995TS carbine.

 

[DeadFlies]

I have C9 and I like it. Accurate and reliable. Adjustable sights, outstanding warranty and customer service, made in the USA. And it was cheap.

People complain that it is hard to disassemble for cleaning but it's just one simple roll pin. It takes about 30 seconds to get the slide off and strip it for a good cleaning. It isn't difficult but you do need some tools, like a hammer and a 3/32 punch. But that's all.

 

[kcshooter]

There's always someone that will tell you about their brother's roommate's cousin who had one and it was just nothing but junk.

But it's really tough to find someone who has owned one who will say the same.

 

[DeadFlies]

It's tough but not impossible. Of course it's not impossible to find stories of people who had problems with their Colts, Kimbers and whatever else. I think that part of the reason for Hi-Point's bad reputation is that people will spend $1000 on a gun and when it has problems they get it fixed and they're happy again.

When their $150 Hi-Point has issues I think the tendency is to get rid of it, claim "you get what you pay for" and think nothing more of it.

 

[whetrock]

I own an older HP 995 and like most others have stated they seem to be very solid carbines given the price, however the achille's heel of the platform is the lack of useable extended capacity mags, aside from that I have no quarrels with the 995. I also have some limited experience with their handguns seeing as I have put 20 or so rounds through a friends (C9) and found the pistol to have what I feel to be serviceable "minute of badguy" accuracy and very poor ergonomics. IMO their carbines are grand and the pistols are decent given the price. All in all you could do a lot worse for a 169.99.

 

[Ash]

Lifetime is nice, and it is true that Hi Point has survived as a company for a while, but there have been many owners of the design - Iberia, Haskell, Stallard, Hi Point. How long until the company changes names/ownership and the warranty goes out the window?

My Springfield P9 is not covered by Springfield, as it is a different Springfield Armory now that the previous Springfield Armory that started up with the demise of the government Springfield Armory.

 

[Kiln]

Lifetime is nice, and it is true that Hi Point has survived as a company for a while, but there have been many owners of the design - Iberia, Haskell, Stallard, Hi Point. How long until the company changes names/ownership and the warranty goes out the window?

My Springfield P9 is not covered by Springfield, as it is a different Springfield Armory now that the previous Springfield Armory that started up with the demise of the government Springfield Armory.

Hi point itself is 20 years old this year so my bet is that they're doing fine.

 

[Ash]

Ah, and how old was US Repeating Arms when it went down the tubes and Winchester was cast about? What about Marlin, Remington, or SA? Redfield? Kimber? Hopkins and Allen was one of the largest handgun manufacturers in the world at one time - died and was absorbed by Marlin almost a hundred years ago.

Pontiac has been around....eh never mind. Ditto for Mercury & Plymouth.

Lifetime warranties are so often worth the paper they are printed on. How's that Bryco warranty doing now? One lawsuit and Hi Point changes hands, washing itself of all previous liabilities, and poof, warranty is gone.

 

[DeadFlies]

Ah, and how old was US Repeating Arms when it went down the tubes and Winchester was cast about? What about Marlin, Remington, or SA? Redfield? Kimber? Hopkins and Allen was one of the largest handgun manufacturers in the world at one time - died and was absorbed by Marlin almost a hundred years ago.

Pontiac has been around....eh never mind. Ditto for Mercury & Plymouth.

Lifetime warranties are so often worth the paper they are printed on. How's that Bryco warranty doing now? One lawsuit and Hi Point changes hands, washing itself of all previous liabilities, and poof, warranty is gone.

Hi-Point still honors the warranty on Stallards, Haskells and all other iterations of the Hi-Point brand.

 

[mcdonl]

People complain that it is hard to disassemble for cleaning but it's just one simple roll pin. It takes about 30 seconds to get the slide off and strip it for a good cleaning. It isn't difficult but you do need some tools, like a hammer and a 3/32 punch. But that's all.

Thats why I said it would not be good in a competition setting. Fine for normal use though.

 

[northark147]

I have a C9, a 40 S&W, and a 995TS... Never had a single issue out of either of the pistols. The 995 has had the bolt handle (which is literally a bolt) come out a time or two and cause issues, but that is all. Takedown isnt that hard, its just one roll pin, even though i tend to use two punches to do it. One to hold the slide and one to drive the pin.

That being said I have better guns now and am probably gonna sell my HP pistols cheap to someone else who wants a gun but cant afford a nicer one.