Hi Point YC-9 "Yeet Cannon" / Next "step up" in 9mm ?

[perldog007]

Long ago and sitting right here an unfortunate incident befell my shack, the bullet holes from 2006 are still there.
Friends pressured me to get at least a service auto. I had two revolvers, a .45 Colt N frame and a 1938 Colt new pocket, a Mossy.
I had been 'out of the trade' for six years due to injury, came on here and saw this angry thread bout Hi Point ( Maybe it was TFL? ). Anyway, I bought the nine and the .40 to take to the range and see if I really wanted a to get back into pistols. I'm of the one box a month LFI school of thought regarding self shuckers, but also love them for work.
Loved those little pigs. Getting them to feed hollowpoints took some polishing and bending of mag lips. I sold them and bought an XD Compact .45 that served me well until I ditched it for a Marlin 30/30 I wanted. The nine was a fun little 'woods' gun and in some places striped skunks are always in season and 9mm legal too.
Horrible looks, ergonomics were more horriblerer, and trigger was 'unique'. But if you nailed it down it would group with the cheapest ammo. Cleaning was unusually painful on re-assembly.
The .40 was just goofy and a really fun range gun. Not sure I'd love it if I had to carry it far. But off a table it was hard to beat for grins at the range or plinking.
The 9 was a two pound pig but small enough to pack.
Now I'm contemplating a Hi Point C-9 or if I can find one Yc-9 for a 'trainer' concerning new shooter. If they can learn to run that .... "YEET"
I've seen price points, and know there are 'better' guns for a few more dollars.
What is a step up from the duck decoy anchor boomrock for easy take down, but still very durable, accurate enough to shoot some kind of group off a rest at 50'? From personal experiences please.

 

[barnetmill]

You like it cheap. Maybe a T33 in 7.62x25 tokarev and those can be set up to shoot 9mm and if you can find the barrel, 38 ACP.
For anyone after a hipoint, i would suggest a used 9mm glock. It will cost you a little more. But really you have no .22 and maybe that is where you want to go.

 

[Antihero]

Taurus G2C can be had for $10 more and is 50 times the gun.

I own a 40 Hi point......it's.....not great

 

[<*(((><]

Taurus G2C can be had for $10 more and is 50 times the gun.

I own a 40 Hi point......it's.....not great

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[CarJunkieLS1]

For around the money of a Hi-Point the Taurus G2C is what I'd definitely go with. I see people with them all the time at the range and I've yet to see one with issues. A Hi-Point will work for the ones that work, but the ones that don't work seem to never work well.

 

[Cornhusker77]

Hi Points aren't for everybody, but they seem to work.
Years ago, my daughter wanted to shoot some pistols, and she knows nothing about pistols.
She shot maybe a dozen different guns, and declared she liked the Hi Point C9 the best, (I don't know why)
Good tackle box gun etc.
Also, their customer service is second to none from what I hear.

 

[94045]

For around the money of a Hi-Point the Taurus G2C is what I'd definitely go with. I see people with them all the time at the range and I've yet to see one with issues. A Hi-Point will work for the ones that work, but the ones that don't work seem to never work well.

The G2S can sometimes be found at that G2C price or less as well and carries a little better inside the waist band.

 

[triplebike]

Look at the Ruger American. The full size is $299 & the compact is $269. I had a G2C, lasted about 3000 rds. The Ruger is "50" times the gun & Rugers customer service is 2nd only to Highpoint.

 

[94045]

Look at the Ruger American. The full size is $299 & the compact is $269. I had a G2C, lasted about 3000 rds. The Ruger is "50" times the gun & Rugers customer service is 2nd only to Highpoint.

I agree it's a better pistol but it's really starting to get out of the Hi Point price range. Even the Taurus is $20 higher than the $140 Hi Point.

I'm really struggling to come up with a range/training gun in that price range.

If the budget was $250-300 I would recommend a Canik TP9SF One Series without question for that duty.

It's is very popular as a "budget" game gun which is what I bought it for. I paid $265.99 and the first 5 rounds offhand went into 2.4" at 15 yards. It's capable of better but it needs the software behind the gun upgraded.

 

[Antihero]

Hi Points aren't for everybody, but they seem to work.
Years ago, my daughter wanted to shoot some pistols, and she knows nothing about pistols.
She shot maybe a dozen different guns, and declared she liked the Hi Point C9 the best, (I don't know why)
Good tackle box gun etc.
Also, their customer service is second to none from what I hear.

My 40 doesn't work. I planned on sending it back but you are on the hook for the shipping to them.

Cheapest price I've found for shipping back via gunshop is $50

And that's kinda stupid for a $150 gun

 

[Antihero]

Also, I own the G2C too so my opinion is based on real world experience

 

[JeeperCreeper]

I love beating my hi point... But only because it is my beater and not my primary nor secondary.

So I agree with the others... Taurus or Ruger or any Turkish knockoffs that run around $250 is going to be a lot more gun for the money.

 

[94045]

Also, I own the G2C too so my opinion is based on real world experience

I own the G2 which is the predecessor to the G2C and it also has run reliably. No malfunctions but I only have a confirmed 600 rounds through it (I'm fairly certain I failed to record some rounds). I have several friends with the G2 and G2C with a similar experience.

 

[Styx]

I've heard people bash Hi Points main, only because of it's price point, bulk, looks, and because their might be other options within the same price range, but not because they don't work or have a bad CS record. If you like Hi Points, I don't see anything wrong with purchasing an inexpensive beater that works reliably.

The only thing people have against the Taurus G2C is Taurus's long surpassed history of issues that no longer plague them but people will still hold over their heads almost a decade later, and it's price point. Taurus has had to have sold multimillion of G2's, G2C's, Slims, and G2s' over the years, and they are reliable pistols that work.

 

[TTv2]

My favorite Hi Point is the .45 for the reason that .45 pistols are expensive for some reason. I hope Hi Point makes a YC-45, it would be a hot seller.

Everything else tho... I don't care much for. It's great they've updated the design, there is no AWB anymore, the Clintons and Bidens are locked in their corruption crime family business and can't take our "high capacity" magazines. The 9mm is a given, they have to make it cuz it's 9mm. There are definitely better 9mm pistols you can get for $200, such as a used Ruger 9E, EC9s, a Taurus PT92... I'd rather have those because they're not anchors.

We'll see what the final price ends up being on these, if Hi Point can get them closer to $175 street price, that'll beat other pistols hovering around 200 and that can be a deciding factor for someone of low income.

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

Whatever Hi Points are, they are not a step up.

 

[triplebike]

The Hi-Point firearms do exactly what they were made to do. They shoot straight and are reliable. They are not a target or a range gun, they were and are for defense. For 150 dollars (which is a lot of money to many Americans) you are getting a firearm that has the potential to stop an attack and the piece of mind that you're not totally defenseless . It will do its job as long as you do yours. There is no doubt in my mind that the "Yeet Canon" will still be firing bullets long after the Taurus.

 

[mgmorden]

They are not a target or a range gun, they were and are for defense.

Yet their weight and bulk makes them exceedingly difficult to conceal, and even at home their capacity is severely limited compared to other guns of the same size. Honestly, Hi Point should have introduced a double stack magazine with the YC-9.

Hi-Points basically are guns that do work, but aside from just the "yeah, it works" fact, everything else about them is a compromise. They've bulky, heavy, ergonomically awkward, unattractive, low capacity, and have terrible trigger pulls. They also aren't exactly durable - most other polymer 9mm's can go 10's of thousands of rounds - if not 100's of thousands - a Hi Point typically will only last around 5000 rounds. They'll replace it under their lifetime warranty of course, but as mentioned above a trip back to the factory costs 1/3 of what the gun does so regardless of how good their warranty or CS is, it still costs a lot to actually USE that warranty.

Now compare the negatives of the Taurus guns: about the only thing I can complain about is the trigger. It's bad, but so is the Hi Point trigger. And yeah the Taurus does cost about $25-30 more so if you're REALLY hard pressed for cash and can't afford that then so be it, but otherwise the Taurus is a much better choice.

 

[Mike J]

Look at the Ruger American. The full size is $299 & the compact is $269. I had a G2C, lasted about 3000 rds. The Ruger is "50" times the gun & Rugers customer service is 2nd only to Highpoint.

Thanks for posting this. I had been seeing the RAP's for around $300. That $269 price tag for the compact is very tempting though. I have been wanting to pick up a 9. No experience with Hi-Point. I almost bought one once just because it was cheap but decided against it. I had a Taurus PT 111 G2. I sold it don't want another one. I would expect the Ruger to last a long time though.

 

[Antihero]

The Hi-Point firearms do exactly what they were made to do. They shoot straight and are reliable. They are not a target or a range gun, they were and are for defense. For 150 dollars (which is a lot of money to many Americans) you are getting a firearm that has the potential to stop an attack and the piece of mind that you're not totally defenseless . It will do its job as long as you do yours. There is no doubt in my mind that the "Yeet Canon" will still be firing bullets long after the Taurus.

But mine isn't reliable at all. It is accurate, when it actually feeds though.

I'm all for great cheap guns, you shouldn't have to be at a certain income point to defend yourself, but these aren't it.

I've tried to like the company, I like the fact that they are American, I like the fact they are affordable and I even liked it when I talked to their customer service but....their warranty is a smoke screen.

They don't pay shipping to them, for me that's $50 via gun shop or $80 via first class mail. That's a huge chunk of the 135-150 cost of the intial cost so if someone who struggled to get one has problems.....they can't afford to send it in.

As for longer-term than the taurus....I just took my 40 apart and the slide is pinged and being eaten up by something, polymer frame somehow? Barrell somewhere? It was alarming because I'm not even sure there's much over 500 rounds thru it. It's stupid unreliable, which I believe is the feedramp being terrible. I polished it up a bit but after taking it apart......I was so shocked by how bad it was inside that I'm not even sure I feel safe to fire it.

Remember all of the above comes from a guy that shoots a Bryco 48 at times, and that gun is a step up btw, that wrote a long term review on here about them and someone who actually likes how the feel when the hold them.

The taurus is leaps and bounds above it, like......model T to Veyron level of refinement.....and it's been $145 recently

 

[Styx]

Yet their weight and bulk makes them exceedingly difficult to conceal, and even at home their capacity is severely limited compared to other guns of the same size. Honestly, Hi Point should have introduced a double stack magazine with the YC-9.

Hi-Points basically are guns that do work, but aside from just the "yeah, it works" fact, everything else about them is a compromise. They've bulky, heavy, ergonomically awkward, unattractive, low capacity, and have terrible trigger pulls. They also aren't exactly durable - most other polymer 9mm's can go 10's of thousands of rounds - if not 100's of thousands - a Hi Point typically will only last around 5000 rounds. They'll replace it under their lifetime warranty of course, but as mentioned above a trip back to the factory costs 1/3 of what the gun does so regardless of how good their warranty or CS is, it still costs a lot to actually USE that warranty.

Now compare the negatives of the Taurus guns: about the only thing I can complain about is the trigger. It's bad, but so is the Hi Point trigger. And yeah the Taurus does cost about $25-30 more so if you're REALLY hard pressed for cash and can't afford that then so be it, but otherwise the Taurus is a much better choice.

Whenever I post this video, naysayers tend it ignore what's in it.

I actually do not think the trigger is bad at all. There's more take up with just about zero weight to it before you hit the wall, and it breaks clean but far back. The reset is short.. It's not as long and heavy as DOA triggers that many can shoot well. It's not a competition or target trigger. Not a great trigger but it's not bad either. It's a decent self defense trigger.

As far as Hi Points are concerned, people who buy them because they can't afford anything else aren't going to be paying range fees on top of 5k rounds of ammo. I doubt they get anywhere close to seeing 5k rounds through the gun, so it'll basically will last them a life time. I don't reckon income restricted Hi Point owners can afford the cost of a CCW class, ammo, and all the cost of government red tape that comes with it. They typically aren't buying Hi Points for conceal carry period, so in that case, the weight and bulk is a moot complaint. It can actually be a plus over a smaller, lighter pistol like a Taurus because of the dampened recoil. No, it's not an optimal choice, but it's better than nothing that'll serve it's intended purpose. They aren't for me, but some people really like them. The company has been around for years and hasn't gone bankrupt, had a bunch of safety recalls, or had a bunch of lawsuits. They must be do something right for the most part.

 

[Mike J]

Whenever I post this video, naysayers tend it ignore what's in it.

I actually do not think the trigger is bad at all. There's more take up with just about zero weight to it before you hit the wall, and it breaks clean but far back. The reset is short.. It's not as long and heavy as DOA triggers that many can shoot well. It's not a competition or target trigger. Not a great trigger but it's not bad either. It's a decent self defense trigger.

As far as Hi Points are concerned, people who buy them because they can't afford anything else aren't going to be paying range fees on top of 5k rounds of ammo. I doubt they get anywhere close to seeing 5k rounds through the gun, so it'll basically will last them a life time. I don't reckon income restricted Hi Point owners can afford the cost of a CCW class, ammo, and all the cost of government red tape that comes with it. They typically aren't buying Hi Points for conceal carry period, so in that case, the weight and bulk is a moot complaint. It can actually be a plus over a smaller, lighter pistol like a Taurus because of the dampened recoil. No, it's not an optimal choice, but it's better than nothing that'll serve it's intended purpose. They aren't for me, but some people really like them. The company has been around for years and hasn't gone bankrupt, had a bunch of safety recalls, or had a bunch of lawsuits. They must be do something right for the most part.

They did have a recall with the earlier millennium pistols. It was something crazy about pulling the trigger part way & then taking the safety off resulting in the pistol firing. I honestly am not sure exactly how it happened but I am sure someone will be along to explain.

 

[mgmorden]

It can actually be a plus over a smaller, lighter pistol like a Taurus because of the dampened recoil.

The Taurus is a locked breech gun - the Hi Point is blowback (and a large percentage of its mass is reciprocating). If the recoil is any lighter its minimally so. I've owned both but it's been quite a few years since I've owned or fired a Hi Point so I can't recall the recoil level specifically.

 

[TTv2]

But mine isn't reliable at all. It is accurate, when it actually feeds though.

I'm all for great cheap guns, you shouldn't have to be at a certain income point to defend yourself, but these aren't it.

I've tried to like the company, I like the fact that they are American, I like the fact they are affordable and I even liked it when I talked to their customer service but....their warranty is a smoke screen.

They don't pay shipping to them, for me that's $50 via gun shop or $80 via first class mail. That's a huge chunk of the 135-150 cost of the intial cost so if someone who struggled to get one has problems.....they can't afford to send it in.

As for longer-term than the taurus....I just took my 40 apart and the slide is pinged and being eaten up by something, polymer frame somehow? Barrell somewhere? It was alarming because I'm not even sure there's much over 500 rounds thru it. It's stupid unreliable, which I believe is the feedramp being terrible. I polished it up a bit but after taking it apart......I was so shocked by how bad it was inside that I'm not even sure I feel safe to fire it.

Remember all of the above comes from a guy that shoots a Bryco 48 at times, and that gun is a step up btw, that wrote a long term review on here about them and someone who actually likes how the feel when the hold them.

The taurus is leaps and bounds above it, like......model T to Veyron level of refinement.....and it's been $145 recently

I appreciate that you're letting us know this, I had no idea they made us pay for shipping. I do know that you get a free magazine whenever they ship back to you, so it's not like you're getting nothing in return.

BTW, that shipping cost may be the FFL's fee, you might want to look for a different FFL to do shipping.

 

[Styx]

They did have a recall with the earlier millennium pistols. It was something crazy about pulling the trigger part way & then taking the safety off resulting in the pistol firing. I honestly am not sure exactly how it happened but I am sure someone will be along to explain.

Yea, that was back in their problematic days in like 2011 or so before the new CEO and the PT111 G2. They seemed to have turned everything around since then. They certainly aren't the same company they once were, and no one with a straight face and who is honest can make that claim no matter how much they hate Taurus.