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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Antihero, Mar 1, 2009.

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  1. Antihero

    Antihero Member

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    Ok, for years ive heard how horrible these things are, told to run screaming and read the articles about how bad they were.

    Ive been away from guns for a little while and all the sudden im starting to see that Hi Points are considered very reliable and now sorta good. Is this some recent developement? Ive never really looked into them so i dont know a lot about them. I do have the carbine which i love though.

    So do hi points have any bad sides short of being hideous to the point of ridiculousness? I see them a lot for very cheap and it wouldnt be used for self defence.
     
  2. earlthegoat2

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    If you like handguns, you owe it to yourself to get a HiPoint. Form follows function with these and you can get them used for 140 or less. They are horrible in every department except that they shoot when you pull the trigger.
     
  3. Zach S

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    Most of the "Hi-Ponts suck" comments are from snobs.

    They're ugly, cheap, and crudely made, but they do in fact work. Don't tinker with it and it'll be fine.

    I talked to one guy who said he's afraid to take his apart to clean it, because it works. He's afraid that if he cleans it, it wont. He uses it for his truck gun.

    The only ones my 'smith has had brought back to him were from guys who tried to make something on it better. Those who lube/shoot/repeat dont have any problems.

    I dont own one myself, not do I plan to. I guess I got a little snob in me too. But back in the day, when I had money, I bought a G19 for my beater.
     
  4. quicherbichen

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    Don't know any thing about them, but I did overhear the guy behind the gun counter telling the guy that was buying one today not to shoot blazer and something else out of it because they jam up.:)

    Guy just said give me 3 boxes of whatever you recommend, and went on with his purchase.
     
  5. earlthegoat2

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    Shooting the Blazer might be subjective to the guys own experience but nonetheless all pistols are picky about ammunition in some degree or another.
     
  6. dwhite

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    Go over to the Hi-Point forums and read what true Hi-Point owners have to say about them. I don't own one. I never owned a Toyota Corolla either but, I'm sure the Corolla would get me everywhere that a BMW 7 series would.

    http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/Forum/index.php

    All the Best,
    D. White
     
  7. The Lone Haranguer

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    You still hear that now. But I've paid four to six times as much for handguns that still malfunctioned and broke.
     
  8. mainmech48

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    The April 2009 issue of "Guns" magazine has a test/evaluation of the Hi-Point .45 written by John Taffin. FWIW, he's a fellow who knows a bit about handguns and he has some very positive things to say about it.

    I've never owned one personally, mostly due to the large difference in overall size and weight compared to a 1911 and my misgivings about how well a blowback-action .45 ACP would hold up under extended use.
     
  9. punkndisorderly

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    I think their quality has improved a lot in the last decade or so. I've never owned one, and don't really ever see owning one but wouldn't give anyone who owned one the stinkeye either.

    From what I've seen, the general feeling is that they are good quality firearms designed to be shot little. They tend to be more fragile than most more expensive competiors. If you figure in the lifetime warranty, no biggie. I'd much rather someone buy one and spend the $350 difference on ammo and perhaps a training course than spend $600 on a Glock and a box of ammo and stick it in a drawer and forget about it until the day it's needed.
     
  10. Avenger

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    I've fired a few rounds through a couple of the .45s. They went *BANG* and the rounds hit inside the body silhouette at 21 feet, but that's about all I can say about it. Assuming .45 was cheaper, I might keep one for a plinker, but not as something I'd do marksman shooting with or trust with my life. Yes, their reputation has certainly improved.....but not enough and not recently enough for my taste.
     
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    The 9mm carbine is great, everybody should have one....
     
  12. jimmyjamonit

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    So many cops carry the hi point 9. Especially in Departments where they have to purchase thier own weapon. It's hard to believe but its true.
     
  13. Antihero

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    Eh, im not so sure about that.

    Read it, thats the reason i posted this actually.

    I do have one, love it.

    This is basically what im thinking, im seeing them at under $100 bucks, might be fun to screw around with.

    I find it really hard to believe, id love to see actual data saying that though.

    Thanks for all the responses, keep them coming.
     
  14. shooter1

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    So many cops carry the hi point 9. Especially in Departments where they have to purchase thier own weapon. It's hard to believe but its true.
    Yep, really hard for me to believe! I'm retired LEO, and have never seen a Hi Point in any cop's holster. Never heard of them being on anyone's approved list either.
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  15. PT1911

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    well.. here goes again.. HI points will do what you expect.. point, pull, and go bang... the resulting over-recoil, and lingering thought of the possible explosion to come would probably be enough for even an experienced shooter to flinch. So, as something inexpensive to learn to shoot with, I understand. but, in the long run, and for the most part, (I know they have a warranty.. dont start) you get what you pay for. there are deals to be had, but few under a few hundred dollars. Personally, I would not trust my life to a hi-point. but as a plinker, why not... if you can hold your aim with that, you can hold if for sure with a better quality gun. If it is what you can afford and you cannot find anything else used in that price range, it is a viable choice; however, if you can afford it, dont waste the money for a gun you are sure to be disappointed with, in the end, you will lose money when you decide to move up. they, unlike most guns, are not going to appreciate in value or even hold their value.
     
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    You get what you pay for!
     
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    I have one of the .45 models and I really like it. It certainly is reliable and you'd be hard pressed to find another 45 in that price range even used with a bad finish. Some of the things you might not like about it are the capacity (9+1) in a really large platform. A difficult firearm to conceal as it's tall, thick, long, and heavy. The recoil feels a bit odd compared to other semiauto's I've fired, when returning to battery the nose kinda dips because the slide is very heavy. Never seemed to negatively impact how I shot it though. There is virtually zero aftermarket support for it. Just some things to keep in mind.

    The good things have already been said.

    I wouldn't hesitate to get another one, maybe even a green slide. If your going for ugly, you might as well go for broke.

    Hope this helped
     
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    Hi-Points biggest problem!! No bragging rights. He, He, look at him, he's got a Hi-Point, He, He. Poor guy, bet he drives a Yugo too, He, He.


    No I do not own a Hi-Point.
     
  19. bikerdoc

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    I have one in 9mm. Ugly but reliable. not my EDC, but it works well. bought used to see for myself.
    Greatest pleasure is putting it in the range bag with my CZ 75, going to the range and using the CZ 75 with some snob in the next lane extolling the virtues of his latest wiz bang, tacticool, whatever.
    At that point out come the high point, Shoot some smaller groups than him, put it away and hope a lesson is learned.

    Oh, also have the carbine and it just plain rocks.
     
  20. ilbob

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    I have one in 45ACP.

    Its big and ugly, but goes bang every time.

    Its actually bigger than my P85.

    I think I paid $168 tax included.

    Can't say as I like the safety or the fact it does not have a slide release, but what do you want for $168?

    Not a target gun, but its not as if it misses by a mile.
     
  21. Grey_Mana

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    http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/handguns/9 mm/hi_point_9mm.html

    I find it hard to believe a cop would carry a pistol with 8 round standard / 10 round optional magazines.

    I'm planning to pick one up. I've handled (but not shot) it and the ergonomics are fine.
     
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    I've had my C9 since march of last year. I put the Hogue univeral grip sleeve on it, and it really fits my hand nicely. It's a good shooter and fun to shoot. After I polished the feed ramp and tweaked the mag lips, I've not had any failures, of any kind, for several hundred rounds (I've lost count). Would I trust it. Yes, it's done night stand duty for some time. Considering the customer service and life time warranty, it's really a good buy. It's a good weapon to get someone into the sport, or a gun for SD, that they may not be otherwise be able to afford. And before you say it, not everyone can save up a couple more hundred $ and buy a used x or y or z. Especially now that the market is nutz.

    Some people really cant get past how they look, or what they were like years ago, etc, etc. To me, it looks like a pistol, and it does a good job being one.

    I really like to set my Hi-Point out at the range next to my Sigs, Ruger, S&W, etc. No one has ever smirked at me for having it (that I could catch), but I have had more than one ask me if it was a HK!! :rolleyes:

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  23. shooter1

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    I'm not going to criticize anyone's choice of guns, whisky, or women. The HP is not to my personal taste, but more power to those who like them. Far better than no gun at all. Enjoy!!!
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    Cheap gun beats no gun every time. It dont matter what it is as long as you're are shooting.
     
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    Something must be wrong with me I can't see spending $150 on a new .45, but I can see spending $400 on a used one. All I know, and need to know about the hi-point pistols: The slides are PAINTED (powder coated), enough for appliances but not for firearms.
     
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