Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by SwampWolf, Apr 11, 2021.
) and am researching options. It has to have a manual safety. Thanks.
Contenders in that market at this time are the 365, Hellcat, Ruger max 9 and Shield+.
Personally I like the thicker Glock 19, M&P Compact, HK VP9sk, P30Sk, etc al. Fills my hand better for better control in rapid fire and don't conceal any worse (for me) as belt guns. All these higher capacity single stack 9s don't fit in my pockets anyhow.
But luckily, I live in America and I have a glut of pistols to choose from. As I see it, I have only one gap in my edc battery, a reliable "subcompact" (no bigger than a Ruger MAX 9 and its ilk) pistol chambered in 9mm, to be carried in an iwb holster. It has to have a high capacity magazine and a manual safety. The search goes on!
I have a CZ 2075 RAMI 9 mm subcompact. It’s about the size of a J-Frame. It comes new with 10 and 14 round magazines. I bought a second 14 round magazine because it feels better in my misshapen arthritic hand. My only other semiautomatic handgun is a Ruger Mark I.
The CZ has functioned flawlessly with every type and brand of 9 mm I have fed it. Sights are dead on at 7-10 yards.
Shoot or handle one before you buy anything else.
The grip can be made bigger with the 12 round mag.
This is spot-on. A lot of my shooting buddies are dumping their carry pieces they have loved for decades and going for the younger model (pun intended). Me, OTOH, I draw the line at the G19/23 size. Anything smaller I just don’t enjoy shooting *and* I feel I am giving up too much - capacity and feel (I know it is subjective).
I draw the line at the Glock 48 myself, but I agree with you. The G19/23 is a superb balance, the Glock 48 with SA15 magazines matches that but is thinner which helps with IWB carry.
There’s a reason why the Glock 19 is so prolific out there, having to pull it out to defend oneself and one doesn’t feel under-gunned.
The P01 is somewhat compact-ish, but certainly not subcompact territory. It is comfortable enough to carry though, if you don't mind an all steel frame.
HK unfortunately doesn't make anything in the same size range as the shield and P365. I remember my first HK pistol was a USP 45 compact, and the first time I saw it and handled it I laughed, thought "THIS is their compact model??" It's barely smaller than my full size XD 45. But as was stated above, HK pistols are top notch, and will live longer than you, no matter how much you shoot it.
I dont know about the HK....but if you're looking at ideas,
Rugers SR9C has those features.
17 and 10 rd mags
Loaded chamber indicator
One of the easiest shooting guns i own
Uses the same holster as a Shield
I'm holstering mine up shortly.
Ruger discontinued it, but they can be found on Gunbroker.
They have a cult following, but I'll never know why they weren't wildly popular.
I know you didn't ask for my submission, but your description seems so fitting.
Agreed on all points.
Seems many of the Ruger pistols have cult-like status. Ever notice that?
I like the looks and design of many of their pistol offerings, but then it seems they get discontinued quietly overnight. I really wanted a P90 years ago and regret never picking one up.
To this day my Dad still has his P89 for when things go bump in the night.
Indeed. I bought my SR9c on a whim as my first CCW and shot it incredibly good for such a small gun and considering my skill level at the time. I occasionally want to borrow it from the guy I sold it to and see how well I could shoot it now, since I'm a much better shooter these days.
Ultimately I didn't like the safety location and how it interacted with my several times broken and dislocated thumb.
The ease of hitting the target was why I got mine...
My son bought it new. I had shot it several times when he talked about trading it for a 1911. I bought it immediately from him.
I gathered some extra 17rd mags, a weapon light, extra flashlight and knife, Desantis SofTuck and a tagua slide holster and keep it all in this go-bag at the back door.
It is my reluctant go-to. I say reluctant because I prefer 1911s in .45, but the SR9C is undeniable in what ithas to offer as an edc pistol.
I do not give advice about what gun to carry because it is a personal choice that should be made from experience and good information. I decided to replace my Walther PPS M2 as my EDC because I wanted greater capacity. I looked at the popular subcompact high capacity models. I was pretty settled on the Ruger Max 9. They make very reliable guns, have great customer service, and cost less than most near quality competitors.
I took my time researching Ruger pistols high capacity capability. I found the Security 9 Compact, which has two ten round mag options and one 15 round. I made the
chart above to compare it with the Max 9 and other Rugers I own. I went with the Security 9 compact because it is not that much bigger with the 15 round mag and 15+1 is good.
Full size grips are pretty much out, and I find the Hellcat, Sig 365 too tiny for my tastes.
If HK did make a pistol like this, bettin' the MSRP would be about $899...
(sorry, couldn't resist)
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