Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by forty_caliber, Nov 3, 2020.
Do you have that article from reloader magazine? I had it and now can’t find it.
That was a long time ago....sorry. I only have the "fruits" of the article. I do remember I wasn't exactly pleased with how the cases were retained.....think they used clips in the ejection groove....and a rubberband? I added the method that allowed the used of regular shell holders....and that took years to think of! I mean I was a kid.....
I also got around to plugging up the handle end of the Tee with something ..... first foam...later epoxy putty.
Just following up. The Quinetics shim kit fit my "broken" hammer and it's back up and running. All is well that ends well, but I'm still convinced there has to be a better way. If I need to pull several rounds it's worthwhile to setup the press based puller but a kinetic puller still has a place on the bench.
You can also purchase the shim kits direct from the manufacturer:
$11.99 (includes shipping)
I plan on trying it out, but have not ordered one yet.
Stupid question: Are you banging it on a piece of wood so it does not fall apart?
The Quinetics instructions say to "Rap Bullet Puller against a hard, solid, non-metallic surface". I think in their videos Quinetics rapped concrete. I believe the other kinetic puller brands recommend rapping against a wood surface.
I've rapped the anvil on a vise, but a little more gently and that worked very well, but I usually rap cement.
Does anyone have one of these?
I have a bunch of 9mm I would like to pull.
They are fine and safe to shoot, I just want to change the load.
At normal primer price I would just shoot them, but with primers like they are I hate to just burn up 500.
Don't think a collet puller would work (maybe it will?), but I sure don't want to pull them with my RCBS hammer type.
No rush to change them so I could wait a year for primer supply to get back to normal (hopefully it will in a year or less) then just shoot them.
but then if the Frankford works well and is Faster and less effort than a hammer type (faster is important) then I might buy a new toy
Ok thanks I’ll keep looking cause I know I have it somewhere.
I'm not abusing the tool and I didn't hit it hard enough against an anvil to damage the plastic. The o-ring holding the collet together broke and the little aluminum pieces went flying. I'm just saying that this design is flawed and leaves much to be desired.
That said, I was able to repair the tool with the Quinetics kit. Would be nice to have a quality tool that uses standard shell holders instead. The cost of the repair kit was 3/4 the cost of new hammer.
I rap mine against the end of a 4x4 post topped off with a small piece of carpet. This works well as i haven't broken one in a long time now. Then again, i don't use the puller all that often either.
I will add that having both a kinetic and a collet puller is handy and both types of pullers compliment each other.
Those aluminum 3 piece collars are a pain. For rimmed cartridges, a simple washer type sleeve would suffice.
You broke a O Ring and lost one of the chuck pieces, Not a big deal. Not the fault of the product, If it is RCBS they will send you another one. There are actually 2-3 different sizes of "chucks" for small to large calibers.
They are all essentially the same.
Thank you. I didn't think the physics for the steel and wood hammer worked like he was saying.
RCBS is good about that, they sent me one for free.
The one I had before had an aluminum shank and it disintegrated in my hand.
Don’t know who made either one.
I also have Forster's collet puller and it works great as long as there is something to get ahold of.
Those hammers are a necessary evil.
If you ever make 'em for sale count me in!
I've read some of those articles too.
The common thread is that the user did not use the proper (supplied) collet assemblies.
But rather used shell holders.
The round got slightly out of place & the primer hit the edge of the shell holder.
I've made more than my share of mistakes & never had one detonate.
What I'm saying is, "I'd have to see it to believe it".
Way too many lawyers involved to have all of them be defective.
(how many different brands, & how many do they sell?)
Just my 2¢ worth.
I use shellholders in mine too, but I made "keepers" by coating a case and a shellholder with vasoline, then stuffing steel reinforced epoxy putty into the end, trim the extra off and let it dry. (done for each shell holder) Also the shellholder is bedded into the cap so it's held in the center......so there's zero chance of moving in the holder where a proud primer could actually hit anything but air.
That said, I wouldn't want the liability to sell even the commercial tools, because who knows what stupid things people might do with it. And for that reason, I just show you what I've used for 45 years without a problem.....and if you want to "risk" making one yourself, by first visiting Home Depot, that's on you....
My RCBS has lasted for over 30 yrs but I don't use it that often. I rap it on the end of a 4x4. I also found that it works best if you just use two fingers to hold it. That guarantees a bounce and they usually drop on the first or second strike.
Just remember if about the speed of impact. Not the power. 3 good licks will remove most bullets.
I broke mine pulling 8x57 surplus. The bullets were glued in place.
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