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Highwaymen, the movie

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  1. tipoc

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    I watched the Netflix film "Highwaymen" the other night. Pretty good. It's a movie with Kevin Costner and Woody Harrelson playing Frank Hamer and his partner Maney Gault as they chase Bonnie and Clyde.

    It doesn't glorify B&C which is a twist.

    Good guns with not too much of the mishandling. It's a movie so not a documentary. But fun, IMHO.

    Have you seen it and what do you think?
     
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    Mod hat on: Please keep it gun related. Anything other than that will get this shut down.

    Ok, now that is out of the way. I thought it was a great movie. Someone did a far amount of homework on their weapons, they even dug up some Model 8s and I thought I saw a Winchester 1907. The Colt Monitor was nice as well.
     
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    Yes good movie, I've already watched it twice.
    I agree with Robert someone did their homework on the guns. Love the model 8 BTW there's some of the guns involved at the Ranger museum in Waco Tx.
     
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    The scene in the gunstore was great! The monitor, loved that.
     
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    I too thought it was a good movie and reflected the times, from what I've read of it. It made me interested in some of the older cartridges they were using. They seemed to have mostly died out.
     
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    Man that was a violent end. I cant imagine the destruction of full auto 30-06. Had to be deafening as well.
     
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    High on talk low on action. It was just OK
     
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    No endless car chases or Star Wars CGI.
    Just a good old-fashioned movie relying on fine acting, great directing, and a solid story line. Not for those with ADD.
     
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    About like real life as an LEO. Hours of boredom punctuated by moments of terror.

    I loved the gun store scene as well. Show me this, show me that, show me this other one, show me that one, until the entire counter is piled high. Then the clerk is surprised when he says he wants all of them.
     
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    I really enjoyed the movie. It kinda sets some things straight that were wrong—it’s nice to see them focus on the LEO side of it for a bit.

    That being said I was glad to see the auto 5’s and model 8. Lots and lots on JMB influence in there. Good stuff! +3 on the gun store scene.
     
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    Read an account that said the posse had problems hearing for a couple hours afterwards.
    Plenty JMB even the '94 Winchester. Pretty much everything but Tommy gun n revolvers.
     
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    I liked the movie.

    The gun store was a good scene. Amazing that 90 years ago if you had money, you could get whatever you wanted for guns with just cash and carry. Not that many people had money in the 1930s for $200 Thompsons or BARs.
     
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    I enjoyed the movie and the hardware.
     
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    That is good to hear. I've saw it on there but haven't watched it yet.

    I am always excited when I see a movie that gets the gun stuff, if not exactly correct, at least close.
    I have turned off countless shows, the main one being the first episode of Longmire because of BS gun stuff.

    I will definitely give this one a watch now.
     
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    I liked the movie although it drug at times. That probably was to show how much of the real life chase went. Hurry up and wait. I think the gunstore scene was the best part of the movie. Just think, go into a gunstore and shop to your heart's content and using someone else's money to boot.
     
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    Great movie I thought. Very subtle characters. I thought they would ruin the movie by adding too much die hard-ish shooting scenes (which is fine in die hard but not accurate for an aging Hamer) when he bought a car load of guns and cases of ammo. Luckily it pretty much just showed some decent gun knowledge and then was forgotten in the movie, save for the scene where Costner shows Harrelson what they were up against by shooting a sign. Seeing the boys alone fencing that were maybe 10yrs old was humerous now days, as was someone missing in a movie, which Hamer did with his single action in that scene

    Must have been discouraging carrying a six gun your entire career, then reading headlines about "1000 rounds fired in minutes" from the couple you were chasing.
     
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    I liked it overall, but like others the store scene was really entertaining. I also liked the scene where Costner had the kid throwing bottles in the air to see if he still had it, not something that is considered to be safe by today's standards.
     
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    It was a decent movie. They got a lot of the gun stuff right. They also got a lot of the actual facts wrong, though.
     
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    As has been said, we don't do movie reviews, we're a firearms forum. Stay focused on the firearms aspects.

    I've been to the ranger museum and they have a fantastic set of firearms attributed to famous Rangers. One thing that impressed me at the museum was the frequency of the Model 07 Winchester (often with extended gunsmith made magazines) in the displays. I helped liquidate an estate with one and wished I'd bought it. These were possibly the earliest "assault rifle".

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    The fact that Hammer didn't get one says something to me about the expectation the Weapons Master had for the audience expecting the same weapons B&C used than the probable choice of the Rangers.
     
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    I can't even watch it I believe. Netflix exclusive type of thing right? Am I the only guy that can't stream movies or do the whole internet movies type of thing? I dusted off my VHS player and watched Commando with my son today. 28 years old and still don't understand streaming or hashtags or blah blah blah.

    Looks like a good movie. Glad to hear it's accurate firearms wise.
     
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    Good movie with some great scenes.

    I have no idea how accurate it is gun related though as I'm just not that familiar with older stuff.
     
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    I think they kind of played up the Tommy Gun more than it was actually used by either B&C or Hamer's crew (fellow ranger and sheriff deputies). I don't think B&C used it much if at all though some of the other outlaws they sometimes hung around with did. From what I have read they used cut down BARs far more often. So it was fairly good on the guns but some "loose interpretation" of the facts.

    Also, I believe the gun shop scene was total fabrication. It would have been nice to have more realistic portrayal of the source of guns for both LE and the criminals. B&C and many other top criminals stole their automatic weapons from NG armories and police stations they raided. That would have been a good action sequence as well as factual. Hamer and probably most LE at the time drew advanced weapons also from the armories or from gun shops which provided them only to LE. While technically anyone could buy and own any automatic machine gun or rifle, the fact is that some of the most iconic ones were not generally available in any old gun shop, especially in small towns.

    Does anyone know whether it was based on fact that Hamer's Ranger buddy was such a poor shot? I've heard that he was not a drunk or deadbeat but was actually working as a deputy somewhere and was a very fit and good Ranger and deputy. I can't imagine that someone would have made it into the Rangers if he was a poor hot since they often had to either work alone or face down large numbers of adversaries with just a few Rangers. I couldn't see what type of revolver the Ranger buddy had, any ideas?

    I am reading a biography of Frank Hamer and only up to 1916right now. But most of the time whether Ranger or city marshal he had to supply his own firearms and transportation and the Ranger pay was much lower than most county or town deputies. So he had pretty basic firearms at that time anyway: Colt .45 and Win 94. On the B&C mission he must had much better logistics support from the Governor!
     
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    I like the movie, watched it last night. i like they were paying him $160 a month, but he had to spend over a grand at the gun shop. typical gun guy move lol.
     
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    I'm a Costner and Harrelson fan and enjoyed the movie. Good period piece and like others liked the gun shop scene and the ending.
    For my money the best movie for that era is Public Enemies with Johnny Depp as John Dillinger and Christian Bale as Melvin Purvis. The director, Michael Mann, is spot on with his firearms and gun play. Not exactly factual but very close.
     
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    Clyde Barrow didn't care for the Thompson. He liked the B. A. R. because it was .30-'06, a full power rifle cartridge that could do real damage to a car instead of bouncing around like .45ACP.
     
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