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Hilarious and yet scary ignorant gun comment

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by DigMe, Mar 12, 2004.

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  1. DigMe

    DigMe Member

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    Over on another gun board there was a guy asking what ammo he should carry in his sidearm for his new job as an armored truck guard.

    One of the posters (among some other very ignorant things) had the following recommendation:

    A single-shot .410 as a defensive sidearm?! OMG! This was icing on a heaping doodoo cake of other ridiculous statements.

    brad cook
     
  2. Preacherman

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    Please tell us the name of the other board (so that I know which board to avoid!)...
     
  3. Greg L

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    He wasn't suggesting taking .308 rounds to the back as a covering position for his partner also was he?
     
  4. PATH

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    Oh Boy! Is this another chapter in the continuing saga of the "Tactically Correct Mall Ninja"?:D

    Please tell us where we may find this thread. I sure could use a good chuckle!:D
     
  5. Don Gwinn

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    With enough duct tape, all things are possible.
     
  6. jsalcedo

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    I've shot the .410 slugs and 000 buck (three pellets)

    The stuff is pretty anemic even out of an 18 inch barrel.

    Maybe a Chrome AK with da switch?
     
  7. Frohickey

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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    KNOCK-DOWN! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

    About the only thing that is guaranteed a knockdown would be a 3 inch diameter projectile. If its going close to 100MPH, its known to have knocked down plenty of fit and trim athletes. If its going close to 700MPH, you can almost guarantee a disabling hit, maybe even a fatal one.
     
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    This seems to always come up, so I figured I may as well be the first to say it in this thread.
     
  9. jsalcedo

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    Hold on let me get my duct tape, trauma plates and my H&R handi rifle in
    600 nitro express
     
  10. Josey

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    That sounds like a guy that told a different armed security guard to get a 454 Casull. The problem was that the security guard said in his intro that his state limited him to a 38 Special in revolver.
     
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    I've got a Crossman .22 CO2 pellet gun. Who wants to stand downrange of that just to prove it wont kill them?
    Alternate answer-- Only if I can shoot back with a gun designed for defensive use
     
  12. DigMe

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    Ok guys if you really must know here it is..

    Ya know I've liked the community in general at packing.org but for about the last 4 to 5 months I've seen a lot more of this kind of ridiculous ignorance. It seems like a lot of people who are new to shooting or guns just go there and think they're experts. Either that or there are a few new trollish types there as well. It's been kind of depressing to see that site degrade. Anyway...the comment I first posted is just the tip of the stupidity iceberg for the user named "Cracker."

    Here's the post in it's entirety:

    brad cook
     
  13. fslflint

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    just to prove that I am not armed, just lay on the ground and let me kick you! thats a good defensive stategie, just kick them. well, thats not enough power. if its sucha weak kick then just lay on the ground and let me kick you. ...that is a really dumb argument.
     
  14. Ironbarr

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    Armored truck?

    How often does one perp get to take on the crew of an AT? Thus, if more perp-etry is required (and probable), a single-loader is about useless - unless they are all aligned nicely and some other meta-forces are in place.

    .410? - Standing down-bang of any firestick is apt to be a bit tedious.
     
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    ummm... I think that this was done sorta 'tongue in cheek' in response to the original posters "Something that will put a man down"
     
  16. Mulliga

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    Several ill-informed conceptions...

    900 to 1000 ft-lbs is a pretty common "knockdown" number for deer. I suppose you could extrapolate this to human beings, but that's dicey.

    Reducing everything to foot-pounds is counterproductive. The object isn't to physically flatten attackers to the ground (you'd probably be better off throwing big boulders than shooting guns if this is your aim) but to destroy their CNS and/or cause enough tissue disruption or blood loss that they cannot return the favor.

    While no bullet is 100% magically effective (I'm sure there are some (un)lucky souls who survived being shot at point blank range with .44 Magnum rounds), I think we can all agree that a 9mm +P+ hollowpoint will mostly likely kill an average human being if you hit them in a vital area. Two or three well-aimed shots will almost certainly do the job.

    Never checked out Packing.org. THR takes up all my time.
     
  17. DigMe

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    Yeah, we know this...that's part of why the post is ignorant.

    Packing.org has an awesome database of concealed carry laws for every state in the country. However, as you can see, the message board has its problems.

    brad cook
     
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    I don't know...the .410 part might possibly have been tongue in cheek but given the ignorance of the rest of his post as well I'd guess not.

    brad cook
     
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    That truly was good for a chuckle!:D Will our armored guard now be guided in the fashion he should dress? Black BDU's and lots of body armor are the next suggestions. Don't forget the little itty bitty back up pistol and the utility belt that rivals that of Bat Man!:D

    I really love this stuff! Geez! I needed that laugh. Thank You!!!:D
     
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    Mustn't be too mindful of ''stereotyping'' or ''profiling'' but that nick doesn't exactly help in the credibility stakes.!:rolleyes: :p
     
  21. McNutt

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    Maybe he was talking about the Thompson with the new stinkspray attachment.
     
  22. dfariswheel

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    This is nothing new. I've caught gun shop employees trying to sell the following few examples from many I've sen.

    As I walked in the store a wealthy woman I knew was being sold a S&W 44 Magnum with a 8 3/8" barrel as appropriate as a home defense gun.
    (The Magnum was a counter Queen that wouldn't sell.)

    A new inexperienced cop wanted a small pistol for off-duty that would be easy to carry and conceal. The owner was attaching a ring to the butt of a cheap .25 automatic, so the cop could attach it to his key ring, per the shop owner's recommendation.

    A new hunter friend of mine was sold a Winchester .338 Magnum rifle to hunt deer in St Genevieve county Missouri. In the area he was planning to hunt, it's so heavily wooded, you can't get a shot farther than 50 yards.

    A man was sold a weird, cheap tubular slam-fire shotgun based on the WWII Philippine guerrilla jungle-made gun. He wanted a shotgun to hunt squirrels.
    He asked me why he wasn't able to hit the little tree rats!

    A gentleman I knew needed a gun to keep in his pickup truck after almost being robbed on the road of the payroll he carried.
    A "friend" of his sold him a cheap single barrel shotgun, and told him to cut off the stock, and to cut the barrel off just in front of the hand guard at about 12".
    Fortunately, he asked me to do the cutting.

    A man needed a pistol to protect large bank deposits from a super market.
    Some clown suggested a .22 automatic, assuring him that "You can shoot somebody 10 times, even if you're on your way down".
    The old and badly battered auto wouldn't fire 2 shots without jamming.

    Bottom line: People who are beginners and don't know guns get sold a lot of crap by people who have no sense or morals.
     
  23. Shmackey

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    For the record, a .410 packs a larger punch than a 10mm auto cartridge. That guy was obviously a dumbass, but let's not compare a shotgun shell to a BB.
     
  24. gunsmith

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    I is a armed courier

    My company prohibits use of corbon,fed hydra-shoks ,"black talons"
    and a whole bunch of others,we are only to use remington golden saber,I use a .40s&w Glock model 22. I guess the gold rem's aint that bad.
    No back up pistols under CA law...
     
  25. whm1974

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    Sounds like the "friend" was trying to get him in trouble. If he did this and had to use it he could have gotting in more legal trouble then the prep who tryed to rob him.

    Bill Meadows
     
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