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  1. speedway

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    I was shooting a 44mag and a jacket richoceted an got my buddy in the forehead. Didin't really hurt him, but he was bleeding like crazy for a short while. Just split the skin a little.

    It happens.

    His wife told me I should have tried harder next time.
     
  2. Ske1etor

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    Kneeling down, shooting steel plates and I caught the jacket from a .45 FMJ in the boys... luckily, due to the kneeling position, the crotch of my jeans was pulled tight and I didn't really feel it. Had me hopping around for a few seconds though.
     
  3. gathert

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    I get hit by little .22 fragments a lot since I'm closer to the steel targets when I'm shooting falling plates. Here are some videos where you can see the bullet fragments actually coming off the plates. First is a .45 and second is a .22.

    One of my friends got hit in the chest with a .45 ricochet. He said he time to realize it was coming back at him because the light was right and he could send the rounds going downrange, and when it started to come back at him he didnt even have time to move out of the way at all before it hit him. Left a little bruise on his chest, but other than that he was fine.

    BTW, bolling pins are fun to shoot, just never try it with a .22 unless you like to hear that scary as crap BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ of a round whizzing off into space in your vicinity. Only took me one shot to realize I needed something bigger.


    http://vimeo.com/20380634

    http://vimeo.com/20380721
     
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  4. gglass

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    My wife was hit on the thigh by a ricochet this past summer. She had her back to the range, and felt something hit the back of her leg. She turned and picked up the deformed FMH bullet, and had to drop it immediately as it was still HOT.

    I have never been hit by a full sized bullet, but I have been hit countless times by spawl.

    As has already been mentioned... ALWAYS WEAR EYE PROTECTION!
     
  5. HOOfan_1

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    Wow...guess I am spoiled by my outdoor range. I've shot a 50 yard indoor range too....the only projectiles coming out of a firearm that I have been hit with was bird shot on its way down from someone shooting into the air 100+ yards away from me.

    To me if you are at a range where ricochets are that common that it becomes "amusing", it sounds like the range needs to be redesigned.
     
  6. merlinfire

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    I am always impressed by these threads because prior to reading them, I had always been under the impression that ricochets were regularly very dangerous. Sounds like most of these don't penetrate the skin. Maybe the people who get waxed by them don't post here? Or is this consistent with what you'd expect?
     
  7. shep854

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    Ricochets are very common (if the bullet and its energy doesn't stay in the target, it has to go somewhere), but very few come all the way back up-range. If you are close to the object shots are bouncing off of, they can hurt you.
     
  8. PowderMonkey

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    Went to my first American Steel Challenge event last weekend and was watching about 10 feet laterally from the shooter - caught a spiral of jacket in the face.

    Like i said it was just the copper jacket - basically had no mass and couldn't do anything to you - but it was sharp as hell and would have been a serious problem if it caught you in the eye!
     
  9. Cokeman

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    I got hit in the chest by a frag at an indoor range once. It hurt like crap.

    I was outside one time and got hit in the center of the eyeball with a shotgun pellet and could see it coming. I wasn't able to close my eye. My only eye protection was my contact lens. I was pretty lucky because the one in the chest hurt more than the one in the eye.
     
  10. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

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    I have no idea how much zip that 7.62x54 had. He was reloading for that caliber and he said they were hot rounds, they were tests he was doing. He had five bullet/case seperations from a can of milsurp and loaded those into the hotter rounds. I shot one round of these and I must say, the sure had some zip leaving the gun; the recoil was pretty rough.

    After the event he tossed the other three rounds and started dumbing down his loads a bit. So, like stated, I don't know how fast, or now much energy were in those rounds, but he took the hit and he deals with it like a trooper. Still shoots with me to this day.
     
  11. doc2rn

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    Its happened to me off angle iron, with beehives, that and a fella shootin a .44 Mag at steel 3 lanes over. Guess he couldnt read the sign.
     
  12. Grousefeather

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    ricochet

    Like a christmas story, "You'll put your eye out".
     
  13. gaijin6423

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    Two nights before 2d MEB invaded Marjah last year, I was sharing a cigar around a 'tactical planning fire' with a couple friends who were going into the city (I stayed on the outskirts). One of the guys related a story of exceedingly bad judgement from his youth.

    He, a high school friend, and two girls had been drinking for a few hours, when they decided to go spotlight some hogs. With my friend at the left front of the vehicle, and his friend high and right in the bed of the truck, they took aim with rifles and fired. My friend immediately dropped, blood pouring out of his arm. The guy in the back of the truck had shot the truck's antenna, and sent about 2/3 of the round's jacketing into my friend's arm. He healed and obviously went on to college and a commission in the Marine Corps, but he never touched a drop of booze again.

    I've also had my (thankfully armored) vehicle peppered by 7.62 minigun ricochets during a danger-close CAS mission. My driver thought they were shooting at us at first and freaked out a little. If you think one ricochet whizzing by is scary, try 2-4,000 rpm. At least they weren't .50 cal rounds, though. Because all our birds carried nothing but a SAPHEI/tracer mix.

    SAPHEI--Semi Amor Piercing High Explosive Incendiary, sometimes referred to as 'skittles' rounds, for the way they burst on a target. Hence the cry of, "Taste the rainbow," I've heard over the radio.

    I guess the point is that, regardless of the shooting situation, you need to consider the overall geometry of where, what, and how you are firing. When I see people at the range walk up and just start blasting like they're trying out for a John Woo movie, I quietly just pack my gear and move on down the line to a quieter, hopefully safer shooting position.
     
  14. PA1749

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    Man, after reading this post, I think I'll start wearing a cup to the range along with my eye protection!
     
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    Heh, these posts reminded me of a guy I once knew that told me that as a kid, he fired his .410 at the inside of an old bathtub that was laying on its side. ONCE!
     
  16. shep854

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    Ah, cheese, rondog! Once ain't nuthin! TWICE, now that would be a story!!:D
     
  17. rodregier

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    Just a related warning I was alerted to:

    Steel storage barrels are very dangerous downrange because under just the right/wrong circumstances a shot can loop back around at almost full speed back uprange. Don't use steel storage barrels as targets or as target holders.
     
  18. rugerman

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    If you don't want a bounce back don't shoot golf balls, 22's are the worst.
     
  19. islandphish

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    I think i will shoot paper, with a dirt(not rock or gravel) backstop, with eye protection.

    I do not accept being hit by ricochets as something that comes with the territory.

    If I can't shoot completely safely then I don't want to be there.
     
  20. x_wrench

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    i have been hit by my own bullet before. fortunatly it was not going fast enough to break the skin. but it did leave a nice bruise. i was shooting my 45acp into a log. i think what happened is the shot i fired blew out a bullet that was already in the log. i will never really know. i guess that is not really a ricochet, but that also may be what happened to you. firearms are inherantly dangerous. we have to handle them with care, and do everything we can to come home safe. sometines, stuff happens, that no one can be prepared for.
     
  21. MattTheHat

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    .38 Special, out of Marlin lever gun. Bounced back off a Bois D'arc fence post. Like 68wj wrote, slow enough to see it coming back at me, but too fast to do anything about it.


    -Matt
     
  22. forindooruseonly

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    There are richocets that are EXTREMELY dangerous, where the angle of deflection is slight and the bullet retains most of its velocity, skipping a bullet off a pond, for example. I know of an instance where a young person was killed by a ricochet off a ceiling at a shallow angle.

    The ricochets that come back at you at a range have reversed direction, which sheds considerable energy and have much lower velocity. Not that there aren't dangerous cases of these either. My experience at the range was not pleasant, I ended up having to get stitches, but if it had been a shallow ricochet I probably wouldn't be here.

    Always make sure of your backstop.
     
  23. xfyrfiter

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    that is why you should hang steel at a downward angle to shoot.
     
  24. shep854

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    It's also why it's a good idea to shoot lead as much as possible, since it pretty much disappears on impact. When I start reloading (finally), I plan to load lead pretty much exclusively.
     
  25. islandphish

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    This is a good time to remind people tgat revolvers spit out the sides too. That could easily hurt someone.
     
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