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HK or XD

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by MROD, Mar 9, 2009.

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  1. MROD

    MROD Member

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    I have shot the HK USP .45 before and was amazed with how it handled, ... I have read a number of really good reviews about the Springfield Armory XD .45 ...

    So which of these 2 guns is the better handgun?
     
  2. Yositomo Wiskisito

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    IMHO, go with the HK45 instead of the USP 45. You give two rounds but get the "next gen" model with better ergonomics and trigger.
     
  3. MaterDei

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    MROD,

    Define 'better'.

    If you fired the USP and were "amazed with how it handled" why would you want to consider another gun?

    You'll read good reviews about a lot of guns, if you actually fired one yourself and found it amazing then your search should be over.

    Welcome to THR.
     
  4. hso

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    If you're a new shooter it literally depends upon which one fits you the best and points most naturally for you. The one you shoot "better" is the one that is "better" for you.

    If you're an experienced shooter, it doesn't much matter.
     
  5. chupacabrah

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    i say XD...less money for a good gun. just depends on what you want though...
     
  6. MROD

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    I have always shot rifles and shotguns... only handguns I ever used were .22

    My Father and Uncle both had 9mm Sig P228 and P226... I couldnt shoot anything with those guns.

    My friend let me shoot his HK USP 45 and I was a little reluctant because i knew what a terrible shot I was with a 9mm... but much to my surprise I was shooting accurately from the get-go.

    I would have to save a little to get the HK USP 45 ... but the XD 45 is almost in my price range.

    So, I guess from what I am reading, I need to shoot both guns and see which I like better than right? Its kinda a Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge deal?
     
  7. 10-Ring

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    HK every time ;)
     
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    Buy what you like, not what someone else tells you. The way to do it is rent one from a range and try it out.
    My question for you would be; what do you want it for, HD, target, CCW and so on.
     
  10. MROD

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    Primarily HD

    I would imagine that for CCW it would be a little large.
     
  11. ArmedBear

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    I like the XD, but do you?

    That's the question.

    Can you try one?

    Buy the one that feels best, as hso wrote.:)
     
  12. Ridgerunner665

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    I have owned both an HK USP40 compact and a Springfield XD45 Tactical at one time. Sadly I don't have either any longer, but they were both fine pistols. If I had to choose one to have again, it would be the HK, hands down though. I dare say it was the best handgun I ever owned, and the one I regret selling the most.

    Here's what I like about the USPc as opposed to the XD:

    -Better ergonomics (personal preference, really): I have smaller hands and due to huge grip frame, I found the XD to be somewhat of a challenge when it came to maintaining a proper firing grip at all times. The USPc seems to fit my hand perfectly and has a thin enough grip frame to accommodate a proper yet comfortable firing grip, while keeping a respectable double stack magazine.

    -Controls: The Safety/decocker on the USP series is, IMO, the best thing since sliced bread. Safe is up (a la 1911) and ready/fire is down. Press down further to lower the hammer. None of that lever up = safety on BS that I have to deal with on the Stoeger Cougar (with all due respect to the Cougar - great gun otherwise). The USP series also allows carry in either Condition 1 or Condition 2 (with or without the safety enabled).

    -Smoother magazine release: The XD's mag release takes a beastly effort to activate at times, and I find the USP series mag release to be more effortless and friendlier for those with shorter thumbs (me).

    -Accuracy: With all respect to XD fans, my USP compact with its 3.58" barrel actually outshot my XD Tactical with it's 5" barrel with stunning regularity. I'm not sure how much of this was due to different the variation in chambering and/or how well (or not) I personally handle each gun, but I do believe the USP to be far superior in this department.

    -Trigger: The USP series in DA/SA allows for the traditional first shot in double action, which some prefer for carry. Additionally, if carrying cocked and locked, one could have a consistent trigger pull from the very first shot if desired. Also, no funky "trigger safety" like the XD.

    -Recoil: The USP compact soaks up the .40's recoil like it's nothing. Definitely not what you'd expect from a polymer .40 cal pistol. Can't really compare it to the XD, though, as it was chambered in .45 ACP.

    -Polygonal rifling: The HK products all have polygonal barrels, which give a marginal edge in muzzle velocity and are much easier to clean. Apparently they last longer than barrels with traditional rifling, too, but I can't verify that as I've never come close to wearing out a handgun barrel. That would cost nearly as much money as I make in one year.

    -Aesthetics: To each his own, but I find the curves and proportions in the USP compact to be far more aesthetically pleasing than the form of the XD. The XD, while surely not as hideous as a Glock :neener: , is nevertheless plagued by a similar blocky and unrefined appearance. While this is certainly not the primary factor in choosing a handgun, it can be the deciding factor, all other things considered.

    Both pistols are among the easiest to field strip and clean/maintain and both have extremely durable top-notch finishes.

    As far as customer service goes, the nod goes to Springfield Armory. That may be an important consideration for you. The XD also has an integral Picatinny rail, which some HKs (UPS series) do not. The XD also has substantially greater capacity in the same calibers.

    FWIW, both are excellent guns. That said, my preference is HK. But it's just that - a preference. What works best for me may not be the best for you.
     
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    U know I really loved the bmw that I test drove.. but didn't buy the camry just b/c I heard good reviews about it after testing the bmw

    I don't see where your logic somehow connected it.

    They're two completely different guns. you might shoot the xd as well as you did the HK.. but you might shoot it as well as the sig. it seems obvious to me that your fail-safe option w/o further testing is to buy the gun you shot well.
     
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    I'll also throw my vote in for the XD.

    Don't get me wrong both the HK guns and the XD series are great guns but the XD costs a whole lot less. This would be fine in my book but I don't see any features on the HK guns that make them worth more money, especially hundreds more.
     
  16. TG13

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    XD.. and you'll have enough change for ammo.. ;)
     
  17. 7mmSTW

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    I own several HK's (bias) and have shot XD's. Obviously I love HK's but do like the way XD's shoot (one of my favorite striker pistols). I have however experienced problems w/ reloads that would jam the XD but fed flawlessly through the HK. I figure the HK has a slightly more generous chamber than the XD. These rounds would lock up the XD and we actually had to go to some length to get them out. You get what you pay for, and probably will never have a problem shooting quality ammo, I prefer the HK for my experiences. YMMV
     
  18. Pizzagunner

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    XD, because the USP is totally overrated.

    And for crying out loud, on a Beretta, (or a Stoeger Cougar), the safety is meant to be for administrative handling or a last ditch trigger disabling switch in the event of a struggle for the weapon.

    No one, exactly no agency or military whatsoever has adopted the 92FS, the Cougar, or the PX-4, and then mandated carrying the weapon with one in the pipe with the safety "on." It is safely carried while chambered because it has a long DA first pull, the entire point of a DA/SA pistol's rationale.
     
  19. David E

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    Except that, in the heat of the moment when you grip the gun extra tight, you can unexpectedly DECOCK THE GUN when you're trying to SHOOT the badguy who's trying to kill you. :eek:

    FATAL design flaw in the HK's

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  20. HGUNHNTR

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    HK wins in a landslide.

    XD's are fugly ;)
     
  21. Ridgerunner665

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    I will agree with that...they are (the 5 inch models especially)...but they sure will shoot. I'm thoroughly enjoying my Compact Tactical

    XDTactical.gif
     
  22. VINTAGE-SLOTCARS

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    Shot both, thats why I have a new usp 45 , I just felt better in my hand. Try both b/4 you buy.
     
  23. GTSteve03

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    Umm... maybe I'm missing something here, but decocking the gun doesn't disable the trigger. You just get a heavier pull.

    And if you're too inept to handle the Safety/Decocker combo, you can always convert it to be Safety only or Decock only, or get rid of it entirely with the LEM trigger. The USP is pretty awesome in that regard.
     
  24. ar10

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    They may be "fugly", but so is everything else :D
     
  25. MROD

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    This is a great forum,... I love all the opinions and perspectives to consider. Thank you everyone for helping me consider which gun to purchase. I will definitely be visiting the gun range and evaluate which gun I want to shoot.

    I like both guns though, so its going to come down to feel.

    Did you guys here about that guy that shot the Pastor this last Sunday, the shooter had a .45 Glock and it jammed (THANK GOD) after 3 shots.
     
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