HK Owners - What About The Pistols Do You Like?

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tinygnat219 said:
vat? You dare qvestshun ze teutonic masterr-pieces of h"und"k? You are not vorzy of ze honor of holdink the usp. Ve fashuned ze ergonomics of eet after the vondurs of ze amerkin 2x4 but wizout der splinterz!

For your arroganz, ve musd charge you $600 more for ze priviledge of baskink in ze glory zat is h"und"k. Zat is $300 per umläüt und zat is before we tell you "nein zat part does not exeest" becoz nuzink ever breakz on ze h"und"k!

Oh... Yöü zink yöü are zpecial becäöüse yöü have ze glöck? Nein! Glöck est nöt german! Glock est austrian. To be zure, letz compare ze two. Ze glock ven one lookz at ze inzides... Niz.... Zö zimple only 34 pärtz? Ve hav zät mäny in ze zäfety älöne! Zis cannot ztand! Nein, back to ze drawink bort.
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roflmao!
 
I own two HKs( wish I could afford more) a HK USPc in .40 and a USC carbine. What do I like....On the USP, feels like it is built like a tank, like the fire controls( safety and de-cocker) has never hicuped on any ammo, not too "snappy" for a smaller .40
Dislike price
USC shoots like a dream, accurate and reliable
Dislike price, 10 round mags
The USP is on the short list for "if I could only have one pistol"....I'm a Walther fan, but I really like my USP!
 
Have we drifted a little off of the topic of "what about the pistols do you like?"?
Holy cow.... all you haters back off!!! he isnt asking about why you like a glock, kahr, smith and wesson or frikkin ruger.
Im sure if he gets interested he will ask for the opinions of ruger owners.
And for those of you who prefer a car analogy: If someone asked for the opinion of honda owners on their vehicles do you think it appropriate for a buick owner to chime in?
Unless you have knowledge, ownership or experience of an h&k perhaps you should even read this thread since it seems to make at least a portion of non h&k owners quite peeved.

I dont own an h&k but i can see when some off topic hating is going on.
not everyone likes glock... get over it.
 
I like that they are built like tanks for the most part. They would make great duty, OC guns, but most models are a little thick for CCW for me. I like that some, like the USP, can be carried C&L, and have a hammer. I don't particularly care for the mag releases that are meant to be manipulated downward with a finger, rather than pressed with a thumb. They are doable, but I have gotten accustomed to the push-in style release, so that is what I would really prefer. Some of the triggers are great (P7), and some are so-so. I think they are good solid pistols, although they do cost a bit much in some cases.

I think they are a solid option for a SD firearm. I'd rather have a nice 1911 for the price, but as plastic pistols go, they make one as good as the rest.

Jason
 
Boanerges57 said:
Have we drifted a little off of the topic of "what about the pistols do you like?"?
Holy cow.... all you haters back off!!! he isnt asking about why you like a glock, kahr, smith and wesson or frikkin ruger.
Im sure if he gets interested he will ask for the opinions of ruger owners.
And for those of you who prefer a car analogy: If someone asked for the opinion of honda owners on their vehicles do you think it appropriate for a buick owner to chime in?
Unless you have knowledge, ownership or experience of an h&k perhaps you should even read this thread since it seems to make at least a portion of non h&k owners quite peeved.

I dont own an h&k but i can see when some off topic hating is going on.
not everyone likes glock... get over it.
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What exactly have you been smoking there, Boaner? Did someone pee in your bran flakes? I have just looked through this thread about 4 times and still cannot find anything that remotely resembles what you seem to be describing. I cannot find any "Off topic hating" and everyone seems to be discussing the attributes of, strangely enough, HK firearms! The last contentious exchange was three months ago as was the last car analogy. And I have found no mention of Kahrs, Rugers or S&W firearms either.

And guess what? It is a public forum, which means anyone can read it whether they like it or not!

I think a chill pill is in order.
 
My father has the HK P30 V3 and it is a superb pistol in every aspect. I don't think it is overpriced, it is simply more expensive to produce than other polymer pistols and accuracy is better, fit and finish is better, quality controls are better, materials are better, presentation is better and so on; take a look for example to the P30 slide and compare it to a Glock slide: I bet my money the P30 slide costs twice as much. Many people says that HKs are overpriced because they don't do more than less expensive weapons (go bang every time and so on) but it is always the same statement like "Rolex are overpriced, there are less expensive watches that keeps the time better and bla bla bla". Well, I still prefere a Rolex...
 
I was very excited when I got my USP40. I tried it out and my group was a little wide, but I chalked it up to being new to the gun and got it anyway.

It never got any better. I ended up hating it and not wanting to use it because I just couldn't shot straight with it. Traded it for a Glock 30 that I love and can shoot well.

BTW my USP was almost 20 years old, albeit in 85-90% condition and the G30 was almost new with five magazines with extenders pluss ammo.

I am just a .45 guy. Maybe an HK .45 would be better for me. But HK does seem to be the snob of the tupperware world.
 
BTW my USP was almost 20 years old, albeit in 85-90% condition and the G30 was almost new with five magazines with extenders pluss ammo.
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It must've been one of the very first ones produced. USPs were first produced in '93.

Jason
 
how much do one of those "accurizer" rubber bands for the $1,000 p30 cost? ()
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They include several with the pistol, and each O-ring can go mulitple thousands of rounds. It is an elegant, and inexpensive way to accurize the barrel to frame fit.
 
My father has the HK P30 V3 and it is a superb pistol in every aspect. I don't think it is overpriced, it is simply more expensive to produce than other polymer pistols and accuracy is better, fit and finish is better, quality controls are better, materials are better, presentation is better and so on; take a look for example to the P30 slide and compare it to a Glock slide: I bet my money the P30 slide costs twice as much.
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That might explain why a P30 costs more than a Glock, but it doesn't explain why it costs $300 more than a Walther.
 
I own a police trade in USP40. When things go bump in the night, it's one of the few things I reach for.

It fits the hand well, one of the only double stack polymer frames that I enjoy shooting and shoot well (XD being the other), and the reliability is commendable.

Other things I could reach for but dont:
PM9
PT1911
Sig239

I would consider the 1911. It feels great in the hand and I shoot it well. However it doesn't have a rail, (no light) so the USP wins again.

Yes I've fired a glock, wasn't impressed. (specifically fit and finish)
Yes I've shot a caspian framed 1911, wasn't worth the $ (smooth must = $$)
Yes I have fired a large frame Kahr, liked it but wanted the PM for carry.
Yes I will own an XD, probably in 9, and that MAY compete with the USP.. but that is yet to be determined.
 
And what does this image show? Obviously this is from the "glock = bestest ever" line of reasoning, but which part exactly? I hope it's not durability..

Then again, it could be from the "this-is-all-a-glock-is-good-for" thread. :) But I digress.
 
"HK Owners - What About The Pistols Do You Like?" I have a P30 in 9mm and I like it alot. 1) very accurate , especially for a barrel a fuzz under 4"s 2) The grip is phenomenal. 3) though I would prefer night sites, the green 3dots are very easy to pick-up 4) I like a decocker better than a manual safety 5) I have never accidently released a mag during firing and once you learn its operation, its rather handy.6) though the DA part of the DA/SA is a little heavy for my liking ,the reset is crisp. As another poster said., I wish I could afford a couple more.
 
I'll never understand people that disparage Glock's F&F.

Mine exhibit near flawless machining and better molding than my HK.
 
that's true. rubber bands add a touch of class to any $1,000 polymer pistol
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Some of the USP models have the O ring as well.

It really is a half assed way to tighten the barrel to slide fit.
 
I like HKs and Walthers. I have never had a reliability issue with any product from either company. HK's CS has been excellent.

Powertrain dependability. I have owned, tracked and raced a few BMWs. I have also torn down a number of high mileage BMW engines ie over 200,000+ and some with 300K+. Many of these engines have seen thousands of hours of track time. Now Hyundai doesnt make an engine that can do this. Sorry.
Bores looked like they had just been broken in and everything was in spec.
You wont get the same results from a Hyundai or any Japanese or US manfacturer.

Back in the early 80's through 1987 BMW provided a turbo charged inline 4 engine to various Formula 1 teams. BMW carefully selected engine blocks for this program ie they went out to junkyards and looked for well aged and broken in blocks from their stock 4 cylinder engine. Use and weather had aged, stressed and seasoned the blocks. BMW put one of these on their engine dyno and it pegged their dyno at well over 1500hp from 1500cc or 90 cubic inches engine. Engine won numerous F1 races and drivers championship in 87 and beat Ferari and Porsche that year.

Now reliability of other components can be an issue with current BMWs.
But take a 550 and Hyundai Genesis V8 on a trip from DC to Atlanta and then do a couple of track days at Road Atlanta and let me know which is the better ride. Consumer Reports typically hits BMW hard for their crappy cupholders. And they consider it a dependability issue in their surveys. Real BMWs like my 90 E30M3 dont have any cupholders.

You pay for quality either in your HK and your Bimmer or you can buy something else. You do get what you pay in most cases.
 
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