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Hk P7?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by cwmcgu2, Feb 27, 2008.

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  1. cwmcgu2

    cwmcgu2 Member

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    Came across an HK P7 in a store the other day and took quite a liking to it. Its single stack configuration seemed slim enough for concealed carry. In addition the unique and stiff grip safety seemed to isolate the muscles in my trigger finger for better trigger control. I havn't got to shoot one yet, so it any of yall have I'd appreciate your impressions. Also does anyone think it would be a good CCW gun?
     
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    I had one years ago. I carried it as a back-up in an ankle holster. I sold it in a moment of weakness and have regretted it ever since.

    They are grand shooters and I wish I had a chance at another one. Slim and compact, I think they are wonderful for CC.
     
  3. Atticus

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    Yes, with a good holster and belt. They are fairly heavy.
    I've heard people say they don't feel good in their hand, but have yet to hear anyone say they are not fine shooters. They tend to point as naturally as your index finger. They do get warm in front of the trigger -to blazing hot after firing a number of rounds.
     
  4. tailgunner45

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    zanders has these for 599.25. they are in "very good condition". is this a good deal?
     
  5. cwmcgu2

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    Seems like it. Most of the ones I've seen have been over 600 or 700. I think there have been a large number of German Police P7s imported recently, which explains the lower price at Zanders and CCDN.
     
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    They make very good CCW guns. They are very accurate and followup shots are fast and controllable.
     
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    I love mine. I got one of the P7-PSP German Police trade-ins. Mine is a Grade A, but judging by the price, the one Zanders has is a Grade B. That being said, I have yet to hear anyone complain about a Grade B P7... everyone I've heard from says they're great and in excellent condition.

    I was on the fence to get one. Really wanted one but didn't really have the money to spend. What pushed me to buy one was when someone on the HK forum suggested, "If you have any interest or think you will have an interest in owning a P7, get one now while the police trade-ins are common. Otherwise you're going to pay an arm and a leg down the road." A lot of people are going to hold onto a P7 if they get it. HK won't be making any more. I say get it.
     
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    The HK P7 is even sexier than Jessica Alba - well, not quite. But if I had the money I'd get one. A hunting buddy of mine has one and uses it for concealed carry. He swears by its reliability and accuracy.
     
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    I wouldn't say that they are going to be more expensive, as there are a ton that are going to be traded in the future. All you would have to do is be patient. The ones out now are 20 years old (at least the B grade that I have is). I'm guessing that the newer models will be retired later.
     
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    CDNN has both very good an excellent P-7s. I'm trying to think of a good reason to buy one. It's not like I don't have 20 other 9mms.
     
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    oh my, YES

    The P7 is a great CC gun. I carry one every day and absolutely love it
     
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    @ Seotaji
    Buy one now.... there are no more traded in in future, at last not from German police. They had no newer models in use, at last not in greater numbers.
    Also only some "Bundesländer" (States of Germany) used them, others had SIGs or Walthers .
     
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    They were quite high on the cool metre a decade ago, they have a strange piston set up that requires meticulus upkeep to maintain their reliability, or so I've been told. They were for a time carried by the NJSPD but were rather hastily replaced because the troopers had a high incidence of ND's due to the squeeze cocking front strap....
     
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    The piston system isn't really strange or difficult to maintain. The piston and chamber are easy to clean during routine cleaning. I don't see why the squeeze cocker would increase NDs unless there was no training provided. It's a very safe system if you understand how it operates.
     
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    If I had the money, I'd have a Jessica Alba too.:)

    The P7 is a great design. It does take getting use too. The grip has to remain constand. If you losen during recoil, it will uncock. It is an unorthodox handgun, but it is a wonderful design. The squeeze cocker allows you to have a true single action trigger pull, not a Glock type pull, but yet have a totally safe handgun.
     
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    OK, I was being a tad mouthy so I'll hold off for now.

    Does anyone know of a seller that has the tools in the box? The B-grade I purchased came in a plastic box and had everything but the cylinder scraper. I want a Grade-A with that.
     
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    Going somewhere MR McClain? Hehe:)
    great guns, disreagard the grading system, they are all beautiful and well maintained, not to mention well built/designed.
     
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    They are not hard to maintain at all and NJ did not have alot of ND's, this is internet BS. The P7 seires pistols are in the top 3 9mm's for quality, saftey, accuracy and reliability.
     
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    Great guns if you don't mind the weight for CCW. +1 to CDNN, their prices are hard to beat on the P7.
     
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    How hard is it to find a quality IWB holster for the p7?
     
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    how much is CDNN asking
     
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    I sold all my P7's. They are neat mechanically, but I didn't shoot them as well as my CZ-75 or even my $150 Makarov. The P7 always pointed low for me and was slower on target for the first shot. I also found that I couldn't shoot them very well past about 7 to 10 yards or so.

    If they work for you, great, but there are some of us who have tried them and decided against them.
     
  24. Seotaji

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    CDNN is asking Grade-A $674.25 + $9.99 shipping. Their Grade-B $599.
     
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    I've got one behind my hip right now, and it is there for most of my waking hours (at least the ones where I'm not in the pool.) As mentioned, they are heavy for the size. I don't even notice the weight now, but it's worth noting.

    For me, it is the most instinctive, pointable gun I own. I actually get into some bad habits with it because I can look at the target and not the front sight and still hit what I'm aiming at.

    For the cons:

    Other than the weight, the guns get hot, sometimes uncomfortably so, if you shoot a lot. This is not a problem for concealed carry but if you are taking them to the range it is good to have a few other guns to shoot while the P7 cools off. They also require a little more care and cleaning than a lot of other guns on the market. After a lot of shooting you can feel the slide start to move sluggishly, and this is a sign that the gun needs to be cleaned. Again not an issue for CC, but something to know.

    The finish does not hold up well to holster wear, which will be the main differences in the Grading system. I always encourage people to get a grade C if they plan on carrying the gun (and can find one, the grade Cs went cheap and fast), because a grade A will likely look like a grade C after a couple years in a holster. Even with the poor finish, mine has no problems with rust, but some people report such.

    This is true. A lot of people that shoot mine love it. They love the trigger, squeeze cocker, thinness, etc. Some people hate them though. They certainly aren't for everyone, but if you get one and you don't like it you probably won't lose more than about $50 upon selling it.
     
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