Hmm, trade my Glock 17 Gen 4 towards a CZ-75b?

[Vernon1]

Real Glock Experiences

I live close to the Glock Factory in Smyrna, Georgia.

I have taken old Glock pistols to Smyrna many times.

Glock has yet to charge me anything to repair anything I bring them.

I took an older Glock 9mm to them and they replaced two type written pages of parts-two single spaced pages.

The pistol was close to fifteen years old.

I wonder if CZ-USA will/would do the same?

Parts free, labor free, and service with a smile. Did I mention totally free?

Each of us makes their own decisions.

 

[v35]

You did well considering a nearly 1:1 trade for a gun you really like, vs. one you're indifferent about. No-brainer.

Nothing wrong with Glocks, though you can find enthusiasts as well as detractors for anything it's pretty hard to find a CZ owner anywhere who regretted the purchase. I think the worst you can say about CZs is that you might have to search a little harder to find common items such as holsters and so forth, but High Noon Holsters has that covered. I bought a few from them. Excellent quality and the price to go with it.

If you ever want to replace your Glock there will always be plenty to choose from. Not sure if you can say the same thing about CZs. The ones I got (years ago now) were pretty inexpensive. They've all gone up in price, way up.

The little windows on the back of the mag that show you the exact round count inside

Can't explain that. I believe all my CZs shipped new with Mec-Gar mags and they have the round count holes.

 

[wickedsprint]

Define your mission. Gun choice then becomes easy. Most of my needs would be better served by the Glock.

 

[MIL-DOT]

I live close to the Glock Factory in Smyrna, Georgia.

I have taken old Glock pistols to Smyrna many times.

Glock has yet to charge me anything to repair anything I bring them.

I took an older Glock 9mm to them and they replaced two type written pages of parts-two single spaced pages.

The pistol was close to fifteen years old.

I wonder if CZ-USA will/would do the same?

Parts free, labor free, and service with a smile. Did I mention totally free?

Each of us makes their own decisions.

Sure, I agree with most everyone that the CZ is a much nicer pistol, and you made a good trade, but love 'em or hate 'em, Glocks have some very solid points in their favor, as pointed out in the above quoted post.
Another plus for them is that they're the one gun that even the most non-mechanical person can fully disassemble and re-assemble, without having to worry about humbly taking a box of parts to his gunsmith with their tail between their legs .

 

[MacTech]

The factory mags have 3 holes on the side, at the 5, 10, and 16 round position, I was referring to the holes on the back panel that show the nearly exact round count

I've lubed the gun up with some Seal1 CLP plus, and it's smoother than oil-impregnated buttered Teflon, feels like the slide is running on ball bearings

The 17 always seemed to have a slight, faint grittiness to the slide, wet, dry, moist, sopping wet, no difference, always a faint grit

 

[MacTech]

And now the upgrade/customize bug bites....

I'm planning to (in no particular order)
Get more mags, 17-19 rounder standard capacities, and a couple 30-something for range toys
Get a good pancake/IWB holster
Install some nice wood grips
Upgrade the sights to adjustable tritium night sights

...AFTER I put sufficient practice lead down range first

 

[MaterDei]

You've already completed the upgrade. I suppose some customization is OK, though not needed.

Nice looking gun and a very cool serial number.

 

[SKILCZ]

The only drawbacks I see to the trade are;
I lose the ability to use 33 round mags

You must not have seen these 26 round mags for CZ 75:

 

[armoredman]

I took an older Glock 9mm to them and they replaced two type written pages of parts-two single spaced pages.

The pistol was close to fifteen years old.

It wore out that badly in only 15 years? That many parts...that's practically replacing the entire gun, sounds like. How many rounds did you have through it?

 

[justin22885]

ive always hated glocks, triggers suck, the grip is a plastic 2x4, and they have the aesthetics of a brick.. CZs are well make, incredibly ergonomic, very accurate, reliable, and due to the steel and the slide in frame setup allowing for a pretty low bore axis it doesnt kick as much

id take a CZ any day

 

[MacTech]

I discovered the amazing utility of IWB carry, the 75B carries almost unnoticeably, truly disappears, the only headache is reholstering as the IWB holster is a slimline nylon job, the gun is very securely retained by my jeans waistband and 1" wide belt

I had previously "concealed" the G-17 in a Bianchi carry lock paddle, pulling my sweatshirt over the gun and keeping it tucked under the holster, worked fine most of the time, but IWB? so much better for concealment

I still plan to pick up a Bianchi Carrylok for the 75 (Sig 220 holster seems to work) for general walkin' around the farm, as un holster/reholstering is easier when I'm plinking or protecting the chickens from ground varmints.

As far as accuracy? Dead on, I never felt fully comfortable with the 17, it shot wider groups than I want, and I'm sure that was all on me, but the 75, first round down the pipe was dead center, right where I intended it to go, nearly zero recoil, and very fast back on target, extremely comfortable and pleasant to shoot, no snappy recoil, more of a push straight back like a 1911

Strangely enough, this 75 seems to hit harder than the 17...

Target was a 2" thick polycarbonate block, same ammo, same distance, the bullet fired from the 75 left a deeper crater in the polycarbonate than the 17

Ammo was Hornady Critical Duty 135Gn in both guns, the crater from the 17 was about 3/4" deep and almost 3" in diameter, from the 75, crater was about 1" deep, showed more deep cracking and was a tad over 3", neither hollow point busted through with one shot.

 

[PabloJ]

It is personal choice, but having had both I would choose Glock. The trigger in partial cock position on old CZ-75 is more difficult to access for someone with small/medium hand than regular size Gen III G20.
If one is stuck on CZ75 type gun IMI Baby Eagle, Jerico or whatever they call it has far better ergonomics. It felt good in my hand and the trigger was not difficult to reach.

 

[USAF_Vet]

I'd make that trade.

The high cap 30+ round mags only make sense to me in carbine or SBR conversions, or it's a G18 or has the full auto back plate. Never could get into semi auto pistols with a mag that hangs down to my belt.

Also, I like hammer fired guns a lot more than striker.

Although, the Glock has a lot more after market support.


Is there any reason you can't keep the G17 and buy the CZ?

 

[lbs]

http://shop.cz-usa.com/ProductDetail/44123_Vz-Grip-Black-Diamond-Back-Full-Size

great grips, pricey but really sharp checkering.wood looks good but doesn't have sandpaper like hold.

 

[lsudave]

I have a Gen4 Glock 17 with the standard case, 3 factory mags, and back straps, as well as 2 33 rounder range toy Glock mags, I can trade nearly straight across for a 99% of new CZ-75b (2011 manufacture) with 2 mags and original case and accessories

I've never truly been able to warm up to the G17
I've had a CZ-75b before, loved it

So, I have an opportunity to trade a gun I'm not completely happy with for a gun I loved

Wow, congratulations, seriously.

Regardless of brand preference, being able to make a straight up exchange to get what you like better is a win. And you know both guns, so there will be no buyer's remorse down the road.

 

[stchman]

The G17 G4 and CZ-75B are about the same price in stock configuration.

I would do the trade only if the other party would thrown in a couple of Mec-Gar CZ75 17 round mags with the deal.

 

[chwebmaker]

Glad to see you went with your gut feel! It is all personal preference and personal experience. I think I've had 5 Glocks over the years but I don't have any now. I've also had 6 CZ's of which I have still have 2. I will say this though, I wish I had all of the CZ's back that I ever owned. I don't miss any of the Glocks.