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Hmmm, what do I need next?

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by chaim, Oct 14, 2003.

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  1. chaim

    chaim Member

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    My deal on the S&W 908 that I thought I had 2 months ago fell apart (no real fault of mine or seller, things happened- no hard feelings). Now I am left without a good CCW sized semi-auto in a full caliber. However, I live in MD so it is rare that I'd actually need such a thing. I may occasionally get up to VT or a couple times a year go to a state where a FL non-residents permit would be valid, but usually I can't carry (MD).

    For that occasional use I do have a few revolvers that would work- a Colt Police Positive Special, a 3" S&W 65LS, a 4" S&W M19 (though I'd hate to mess up the bluing) and a Taurus 85. I also have a Bersa Thunder in .380 as well as a couple thinner full-sized autos that could occasionally work when dressed appropriately (a 1911 and a CZ 75).

    Given that I would only occasionally use this, and I have other alternatives (just not a "perfect" sized and chambered auto) do I really need to rush out to get a single stack, 9mm or greater, CCW type gun? I don't yet have a true pocket pistol (though the Taurus 85 and Bersa are pocketable). Should I be looking more along the lines of a Beretta Tomcat or Kel-tec P32 to cover a completely new catagory? Since I have things that will work, and won't need them for this much anyway, should I just look for a nice range gun (Taurus PT92, Beretta 92, Ruger P90, SA Mil-spec or another CZ 75 variation)? Should I look for something sized in the mid-range (and maybe a double stack) that is a good range size but will be a little more suitable as a CCW than the CZ 75B or 1911 (Taurus PT911, S&W 910, CZ 75 Compact, CZ 100)? Should I forget a handgun altogether and just get a carbine and a shotgun (home defense)?

    These are all options that I am looking at seriously. Whichever I choose might be my last gun purchase of the year. What do you guys think?
     
  2. DMK

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    Instead of spending money to buy another gun, get a really good IWB holster and belt for that 1911. You'd be surprised how easy it can hide with a decent cant to keep the grip from poking out.
     
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    Oh to be buying a gun again...:(

    You probably don't NEED this, and it sounds like the caliber might be too small for what you want, but for a "pocket" gun you might look into the Sig P232. I have one and LOVE it. It's pretty tiny, but accurate and a joy to shoot.

    I want another gun.... waaaah.
     
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    IWB holster

    Take a look at Wild Bill's Covert Carry. I have one for a Smith 340 and it is the best IWB that I've ever had:

    http://www.wildbillsconcealment.com/index.html

    For 4 years, I carried a Sig 220 in a Bianchi IWB holster with no problem,

    John
     
  5. chaim

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    So far I guess 2 to 1 the vote is a good IWB (how about the Galco NSA II) for the 1911 instead of a CCW size gun (I already own a decent belt- my daily belt is a 1 1/2" Bianchi dress belt/holster belt). In that case I guess the vote is for whatever gun I'd prefer, needs not considered (in which case I'm still stumped since everthing listed is about equal on the list).

    Hmm, a .380 in the same relative size as my Bersa...It is another pocketable gun but not a pocket gun. I'm not sure I want a P232, however I'd love a used P230 eventually. Right now though it is another "in between gun" (not quite a pocket gun, not a 9mm or more CCW), a good gun but it doesn't quite fit neatly into any particular need/niche.
     
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    Got a Beretta 92 I'm thinking about letting go.

    Rough exterior, very good interior, shoots great, early model, straight 92, safety on frame, no decocker, magazine release on left-side grip near bottom, either 4 or 5 15-round magazines...
     
  7. chaim

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    Mike, if I decide to go with the full-size I'll probably have to give you a PM. I wouldn't mind a Beretta (understatement), however I'm not a big fan of the slide mounted decocker/safety. I'd love an older Beretta 92 in the old, safety on the frame, configuration. Unfortunately, since you are in VA I think BATF rules require an FFL transfer (I think that normal face to face sales are illegal even for private individuals if out of state). I'll check w/ MD state police to see if MD's usual private transaction process can be done if the seller is from a neighboring state (horrible process though- must take gun to state police barracks, fill out my background check form, you hold gun for 7 business days, then when you get the paperwork showing I am "not disapproved" you can give me the gun). I'll also double check BATF rules, and if I'm wrong then maybe I can go to you.
     
  8. Mike Irwin

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    Chaim,

    I'm pretty certain that it would have to go through an FFL.

    This Beretta does NOT have a decocker -- just a straight safety that can be applied with the hammer in any position.
     
  9. Spot77

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    You did seem fond of Norton's USP9f at the last MD shoot :evil:

    You could always go with the compact.......
     
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    Yup, I did like that HK. Perhaps though I should rephrase to "What should I get next, that isn't going to cost an arm and a leg".:neener: Unfortunately I can't really afford something right now that is going to run me in the $700 range (local prices).

    I think I may have made my choice (though I'll look a little first). I love my Charles Daly 1911. I know some haven't been as lucky as me, but it is a good gun. I've wanted a small 3-3 1/2" 1911, though I know the reputation is that they aren't particularly reliable. Given that, I'd rather spend the $450 for a Daly then spend $800 or so for the cheapest (local prices) Kimber or SA in that size. If it is a bad short barrel 1911 I'm out less money. Well, a local dealer still has a Charles Daly with the 3" barrel. I just might give it a chance (and it is a 1911 style so if I do get a lemon it shouldn't be that hard to get fixed up).

    If I do go this way I guess you'll be hearing about it within the week. I have to decide relatively soon, they only have one and with no built-in locks, no more new Charles Dalys can be brought into MD. However, at $450 that is a little more than I had in mind right now. Also, a small pocket gun or a lever rifle in .44mag or .357mag are calling to me quite strongly as well (or maybe an M1 Carbine, or a .41 magnum Taurus Tracker). I'll try to make my seach quick (maybe I'll decide by Wens) so this one should still be an option.
     
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