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Hoarding is getting to me!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by exbrit49, Jan 28, 2013.

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  1. exbrit49

    exbrit49 Member

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    Hoarding is getting to me!
    I have always been an avid shooter and I visit the range twice a week. I use quite a lot of ammo in various calibers and that’s fine, however, my wife, loves to target shoot but suffers from some physical disabilities. She shoots .22 as that is all she can handle. Unfortunately within 6 to 8 months the progressive disabilities will bring an end to her shooting , and therein lies the source of my ire. . I always had enough .22 on hand to keep her shooting about 8 weeks and now she is down to a two week supply and there are no signs of being able to get any more for her in the foreseeable future. The reason is simple! “ Hoarders” grabbing everything of the shelves . so much so that now there are real zero stock situations all over the country
    I know that many are worried about future supplies of ammo but it galls me to overhear comments like “Yes I have a 5 year supply stocked away” or “Yep I have 10,000 rounds. I have even seen the posts here too, gloating that they have a 10 year suppy. I don’t begrudge them their “stash” But what I do see as a crying shame, is that some individuals are like the "king in his counting house!" Sitting and counting their stash of ammo every night! Many of them are Once in a Blue moon shooters and vary rarely even go to the range.

    I went to a gun show Sunday and a guy there had about 10 boxes of federal .22 LR and was asking $7.00 a box of 50.These are the Federal that Wal-Mart sold for $1.97. I would not and could not pay $7.00. Luckily my views were shared by the other show attendees, as at the end of the show, he still had them stacked up on his table. He also had his Small pistol primers too. He wanted $7.50 a hundred for those and there were no takers! Please don’t post responses about a free market. I am fully aware of the opportunities the current situation offers some individuals! But I don’t have to like it!
    Luckily for my own shooting I reload everything I need and always keep as much as possible as I can, as I shoot so much. I think there is a difference between hoarding and having stock on hand to USE!
    We are going to the range tomorrow, to see if she can handle some .380 that I have light loaded that will hopefully cycle, and just hope her hands can handle the more powerful cartridge. I don’t think this is going to work but she is game to try.

    Just wanted to say a sarcastic thank you to the real hoarders! Have fun gloating and counting it all every night! Also thanks to the opportunists buying everything they can lay their hands on to resell at an excessive profit.:fire:
     
  2. firesky101

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    I am by no means a hoarder, but I have some put back for the droughts. If I were near you I would gladly sell you a brick for what I paid for it. Your situation certainly sounds warranted. I feel for you, I got stuck in a similar situation in 2008.
     
  3. Gordon_Freeman

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    I saw the writing on the wall 4 years ago and got prepared for this. No offense, but maybe you should have too. Instead of blaming other shooters, blame the guys in the white house.
     
  4. TanklessPro

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    I understand your frustration. You may want to try 38, I like to shoot 38 a whole lot better than 380.
    I don't want to sound insensitive, but did you try to build your own "stockpile" before the mad rush?
    After living through the 08 rush, I sworn to not be without.
    I'm a little far from you but maybe some other highroaders could chip in at a reasonable price. Just a thought.
     
  5. ColtPythonElite

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    Been buying more than I shoot for years and often because it was a deal. I have ammo I have owned for 20+ years. Yep, I reckon I am a hoarder and offer no apologies.
     
  6. exbrit49

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    Yes guys we kept an 8 week supply on hand for her at all times.
    After Sandy Hook, Walmart and even my LGS couldnt keep stock I bought as much as I could get but as we DO shoot it, it runs out!
    As noted, I shoot many calibers and reload everything I have plenty of all my calibers on hand and also have plenty of reloading supplies on hand. Its the .22 that has me puzzled. Its a target caliber and not a defence round. I did not expect to see it cleaned out.
    Ok so I am guilty of not being greedy and buying every thing in the store, I just bought enough to keep replacing what she used.
     
  7. forindooruseonly

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    I've got a couple of federal bulk packs ill send ya for what I've got in it, it's not enough to last but it might keep her going a few more weeks. PM me if you want.
     
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    OP, I'm sorry, but what is your suggestion of what folks need to do? Make some rules that you can only buy 1 ammo box a week, or maybe 1 box a month? Who will make the rules? The government? The NRA? How about let the private businesses make their own rules regarding purchase quantities?

    Does it ever occur to you that a lot of folks are prepared and have been accumulating over the years, because they saw the writing on the wall? Yeah, I'm one of them. I don't gloat about it, but I'm not gonna apologize for it, either.

    What about the massive influx of totally new shooters, and they also bought the ammo?

    Seriously man, these kinds of ranting threads are getting tiresome.
     
  9. Gordon_Freeman

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    I noticed that .22 rounds were also hard to find in 2009. That's why I got prepared.
     
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    I started a thread here a while back about the shortage of 22's and was told there wasnt a shortage. One guy said instead of sitting at the computer and typing i should be looking for some. I did, and i dont plan on having to buy any more! Most people saw it leaving the shelves but didnt bother to buy any. So yes I guess i'm a hoarder too. A happy one at that!
     
  11. Arkansas Paul

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    Funny, begrudging peoples' stash seems to be exactly what you're doing.

    This happens pretty regularly though. Anybody who has more than you is a hoarder who is doing everyone a disservice, and anyone who has less than you is a drooling moron for not being prepared.
     
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    Yes. Incumbents usually get re-elected and with the state of the Republican party, I figured the Democrats would hold the White House and 2013 would be another shortage year.

    I spent the last few years buying a little extra at a time to get me through a similar shortage period as was experienced in 2009.
     
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    Hey, that sucks.

    And when I was scrambling to buy overpriced crap ammo last time there was a shortage, I started a "buy 3 shoot 1" policy on all common cartridges that I stock.

    Perhaps someone near you will be willing to sell you some of their stockpile - at a price you&they agree on.
     
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    Hey great job On passing up the $7.00 22lr soon as everbody starts doing that the faster the prices will drop,
    I would spend $20.00 on gas and drive out of town to some small town hardware store where there still $1.75, before I'd give some rip-off artest $7.00
    any small hardware stores neer you? , city horders seem to forget them
     
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    When supplies are short I shoot a lot less and suddenly my inventory lasts a lot longer. When gas was $4 per gallon I drove less too.

    If you're going to call people hoarders you need to realize that unless you are a JITer like Wall Mart you are one too.

    (JIT) stands for Just In Time = modern invention of MBAs who only care about saving $$

    For my wife I load 125g Ranier plated bullets with 3g of Trail Boss in a .38sp. It's not as light as .22, but it's pretty gentle.

    I'm a bit low on .22 myself, so I'm saving it for the kids.
     
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    I like that. :)

    I guess that makes me a drooling moronic hoarder; if I conserve I might have enough 9mm to get by for a while but more than a little short on everything else... oh, well...just have to make the best of it and don't make the same mistake again.

    I've already made appointments in my Outlook email for several times in 2015 and 2016 to remind me. Hopefully this shortage will be over by then but the next one won't have started yet.
     
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    During the last AWB I never had an AR or an AK, and I lived just fine. Then a few years ago, I picked up a Maadi AK and had a good time shooting cheap ammo for a time. I got bored with it, and passed it on to another gunowner.

    Then this past September, I finally bought an AR. First one since my SP1's from the late 70's. I bought a scope for it with a LaRue QD mount, and an Aimpoint T1 on a LaRue also. I had a decent collection of pmags, around 15, and I was having fun with it. Then came Sandy Hook, and the whole nonsense panic scramble for guns and ammo. I found that I was making more trips to gun stores and Walmart hoping to grab more ammo.

    It dawned on me yesterday, its nuts, and I will not be part of the insanity. I sold my AR today, and most of the ammo as well. I still have a few Pmags on Armslist, and I saved a couple hundred rounds of .556 to give my son in law for his upcoming birthday. I sold my Smith & Wesson AR for $1300, and 1500 rounds of 5.56 for $750. I got so many emails I could not answer them all.

    I am done with it for now. I am retired, and in the coming months ahead, I will be buying a new home and at least 50 acres in a more gun free state than this crap hole I live in, and then I may revisit this whole AR 15 thing again.
     
  18. GKR333

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    Im not a hoarder, I just try to keep several k in primers, projectiles and powder to shoot for atleast a year or so on hand for the main calibers that I shoot

    Someone mentioned, blame the white house, I look at it a lil different, they didnt get there by themselves

    Lets hope things smooth out and get back to normal soon, but I have a feeling it is going to be a rocky road
     
  19. Queen_of_Thunder

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    Well he still has the ammo but you can't shoot because you have none.
    You and others have yo decide if you want to shoot or not.

    I had a table at a local gun show and people complained about the prices. I told them I couldn't even replace the ammo I was selling at the same price I was selling for provided it was available and frankly its not. I also pointed out that at best you could get one box of ammo per day from LGS but you could buy in quantity from me plus my selection of 22lr ran from single boxes of 50 to 550 round boxes. Its not like anyone else had what I had and its not my fault people failed to keep an adequate ammo supply on hand.
     
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    What part of Indiana do you live? Do you live anywhere close to Ohio? Do any laws say that you can't sell or transport ammo from one state to another?
     
  21. cheeze

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    Do you put up firewood before winter hits? Do you get fixings for Christmas dinner before Christmas eve? How about buying a set of tires before yours get so thin they pop? You see a need arising in the future and you prepare for it. If you didn't, it's not the fault of the people who did.
     
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    exbrit49:
    Imagine after the '08-'09 panic that you received your first reloading gear from Sinter Klaus und Rudolf (a Lee Single-).

    That January you go look for just 100 primers, but can't find them. My brother found about 300 up in Evansville for me.
    Good luck out there.

    wriggly: you will find a decent deal when many people who bought ARs, but did not want/need them realize that they have more pressing needs.
    Their taxes will also go up, and not just to pay the many hidden costs of ObamaCare. The need for more cash will increase.
    Workers who soon see their hours cut, to limit their employers' new health cost increases, will also sell something.
     
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    Just buy a pellet rifle or pistol. There is plenty of ammo and prices are reasonable.
     
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    I know it's not same but have you thought of getting your a Good air gun, some of the rifles are quite powerful, and the pump pistols are great, and if the pumps are too much try the. C02 ones, with air guns you get trigger time and breath control practice, plus they're just dang fun.^^^^^someone beat me ^^^^
     
  25. hueyville

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    Exbrit49, if you were close would hook you up with a brick. My rule for over 30 years has been buy a box or brick of 22 rimfire every time I go in a store that sells it. I shoot 100 to 150 rounds of it per week minimum. Bullet trap at work and in basement. Nothing but keeping muscle memory super sharp on trigger control. Everytime went into Wallyworld bought 1 to 5 of those 375 round boxes of automatch. Stunning ammo for the price. Some weeks shoot an entire box of the stuff. Hate it your wifes shooting career may be ending. Doc just told my wife no more heavy recoil guns.

    Switched her out to a .243 rifle for time being till my smith can build her something custom with a muzzle brake to fit her frame. Probably a 6mm PPC as can taylor loads for her to do most what she wants. For her 20 gauge Benelli Nova Pump I changed it to Aguila 1.5" mini buckshot shells for home defense. Light gun way its configured and those short shells virtually no recoil and it holds 6 + 1. Took her Khar 9mm compact and .3" .38 carry guns and replaced with a .380 Sig and a Smith & Wesson .22 mag PD. Almost 900 bucks for a 7 shot snubby rimfire revolver but worth every dime considering how light the scandium frame is and 22 mag easy to manage in that light of a pistol.

    Having her a custom 380 with a compensator built. My pistolsmith is ordering parts now. Going to take an ultra compact 380 put a compensator on it for a semicompact carry pistol. He is also going to build her a full size version of same caliber on lightweight polymer hi-capacity frame with full length slide and comp. Basically a baby IPSC pistol for her to pop caps in. Now just have to set up one of my Dillon progressives with caliber conversion kit in 380 to keep her pistols fed. If wife no part of the hobby it limits my time to shoot.

    That said you can see I take my wifes needs seriously. Same with mine/ours. As cheap as bulk pack 22 has traditionally been no reason not to have a stockpile. This is not the.first nor will it be the last run. Our LGS's are getting rimfire in every week but it goes quick. Go to your shop and explain situation. If they don't sit you.some aside next shipment then find new gun store. My rule is less than 100k of rimfire and I am out. Been nice.weather round here and we went through a full brick on Sunday. When you have such a specific need stay months or years ahead. If you pay shipping will send you a brick at my cost.
     
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