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Holdster or Wallet Holster for my P3AT?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Boba Fett, Dec 28, 2008.

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  1. Boba Fett

    Boba Fett Member

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    Nope, that's not a misspelling.

    The Holdster is nearly identical to the Wallet Holster made by ConcealCity.com. More pics for the Wallet Holster.

    So my question is this: Is one better than the other?

    They're both about the same cost and they both look like I might be able to get an Armalaser in there with it.


    And in the course of my research, I came across the Pocket Slipper and Pocket Slipper Laser.

    Without a laser, it costs $20 more than the other wallet holsters. With the laser it is about $122.


    Which is better?

    Opinions, experience with, etc. Thanks in advance.
     
  2. rcmodel

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    The Holdster makes the gun about twice as big & bulky as it needs to be. It would stick out of most jeans hip pockets, not to mention being the size of a brick.

    Seems to me the thin edge of the hard leather would really give your trigger finger a beating from recoil too.

    I use a thin leather pocket holster, and it hardly adds anything excess to the gun.

    rcmodel
     
  3. orchidhunter

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    That wallet holster might need a permit. When I hear wallet holster I think about the ATF, don't no why. orchidhunter
     
  4. orchidhunter

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    If that is a shoot-thru holster and you combine a gun with it, it has to be registered and a $200.00 tax paid. orchidhunter
     
  5. The Lone Haranguer

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    I don't think the Holdster would be an AOW. It is not a shoot-through and does not substantially alter the appearance of the gun, whereas true shoot-through wallet holsters totally covered the gun and disguised its appearance. That said, I too fail to see what this device would accomplish that an ordinary pocket holster would not.
     
  6. zxcvbob

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    I just got a P3AT a few days ago. I haven't tried carrying it yet because I don't have a permit (maybe I should try it around the house) so this may be a stupid question. Can't you just carry it in a pocket without a holster? It seems *made* for pocket carry, with its long trigger pull and shrouded hammer that only half-cocks.
     
  7. BlacklabelOP

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    I carry my LCP in my pocket even while at home... Sans holster, but do have a nice pocket holster for out on the town
     
  8. orchidhunter

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    The Lone Haranguer, I did not check the links in his post, and like you I don't think it is AOW. orchidhunter
     
  9. tblt

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    It will print without a holster
     
  10. gpr

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    carring in the open pocket is a AD ready to happen...holsters such as desentis nemisis keep your gun at a proper angle to grab it fast, and protect the trigger...it also keeps the print broken up...gpr
     
  11. The Lone Haranguer

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    A pocket holster would have the additional benefits of covering the trigger and keeping lint out of the slide or hammer.
     
  12. EmGeeGeorge

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    i had a "holdster" for my p32 a whileback... worked great carried one in the pipe, no AD's... shot better too with it (no misfeeds after I put it on), suprisingly... not bulky at all... if you get one you'll like it...
     
  13. mgregg85

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    I'd stay far away from anything referred to as a wallet holster unless you wanna pay the $200 tax. I don't think the gimmick is worth it when you can just use a regular old pocket holster.
     
  14. Boba Fett

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    The wallet holsters I've linked to do not fall under the BATF issue.

    The other pocket holsters I've seen so far make it difficult for me to dig into my pocket and get the gun. They are too bulky in my back pocket and cause the top of the gun to show enough that I would likely get in trouble.

    I tried the same holster in my front pocket and had difficulty drawing it. Plus I ended up drawing the entire holster a couple of times. And that was with a holster that was "supposed" to stay in your pocket because of the little rubberized beads on the outside.

    Maybe I just need different jeans. Should I switch from my 32-32 Relaxed Fit Levis? Hope not...they're my favs :p


    My interest in the wallet holsters is two fold:
    1) they cut down on the extra bulk of a normal pocket holster.
    2) they are the best I've seen at eliminating print while still leaving the pistol totally accessible.

    As for AD, I'm not really worried about that. The trigger is protected by the trigger guard and the wallet holster will keep the gun upright/at an angle where I won't shoot myself with it as I go into my pocket for it. Plus I'm not planning on carrying anything else in that pocket.

    As for the lint, I'm not sure how a pocket holster is going to keep it out of the hammer. It might keep it from the slide, I'll give you that, but I'm not planning on carrying it for long periods between range time and subsequent cleanings. So any lint buildup, which I doubt there will be any, will be cleaned out about every week or two.


    *EDIT* I should probably add that this pistol is for when I can't carry my normal CCW (i.e. when I have to wear tucked in shirts). It's also for those rare times I don't want to carry my normal CCW and just want to throw something in my pocket for a "just in case" carry.
     
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    You need to go to ktog.org. You are heading down the wrong path when you start to mention pocket slipper.
     
  16. Boba Fett

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    Alright, please expand on this.

    I have visited ktog.org and bookmarked it...found it when I first started looking at the P-3AT, though I haven't read a whole lot on the site yet.

    So where on ktog.org should I look concerning the pocket slipper?

    Why is that the wrong path?

    Need better explanation!

    Thanks ^_^
     
  17. PX15

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    JMOfartO:

    The absolute best way I've ever found to carry a small pistol concealed on a daily basis, regardless of the weather or my wardrobe is in a rear pocket (wallet type) holster..

    I'm not talking the "wallet holster" that conceals the pistol inside and you shoot thru a hole in holster (which I believe is illegal), but standard type holster that goes in the back pocket, and you can reach between the back "anti-print" flap and the holster itself and withdraw the firearm.

    Works fine, conceals perfectly, and works for me.:)

    Best Wishes,

    Jesse

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  18. zxcvbob

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    PX15, what brand is that holster? It looks much better made than any I've seen pictures of online.
     
  19. PX15

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    zxcvbob:

    The holster shown in the first post was made by R.J. Hedley.. R.J. is considered by most of the folks on the www.seecamp.forum as the "guru" of pocket holsters, and is a forum member. He is semi-retired and honestly there is a standing line for his fine products..

    It's possible to contact him and get in line, but in my experience expect a long wait.. Well worth the money, but hard to come by.

    Luckily there are several other forum members who also are expert holstermakers (robtmedco, Jim Powell, and several more who's names eludes me at the moment.). You can go to the Seecamp forum, go to the "holster" section and one of those folks will be happy to fix you up pretty quickly, and the price is fair, the product guaranteed, and you'll wind up with a high quality holster at a reasonable price.

    Just post an interest on that section, and I'm sure someone will be happy to make you a holster you can be proud of.

    Additionally, www.Pocketholsters.com @ 1-800-424-9352 also makes what I personally consider a very good holster, and as you can see from the photo below it's very similar to the holster made by R.J.

    I actually bought the "Pocketholster" to tide me over until R.J. could craft his magic for me, and it did a fine job. If you are in a hurry this might be the easiest way to get a good holster quickly..

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    Those of us who possess Hedley's are holster snobs and we think R.J.'s are as good as a holster comes, but those other folks at the forum make top quality stuff too...

    Hope this helps.

    Best Wishes,

    Jesse
     
  20. Claude Clay

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    been carring the holdster since it very 1st was available for both 32 & 380.
    in tight jeans it prints the same as a wallet in front or back pockets. anything less than skin tight and it dissapears.

    it is legal in CT without any taxes as the slide [action] is visible. thats why i got the all black gun & holdster so it would be visible :rolleyes:

    the holdster reduces the recoil to bearly noticabe and their is no hurt on any part of my hand. my daughter says it is softer on her hand than the bursar though she groups better with the bigger gun :uhoh:
    for me the holdster doubles my accuracy--2" slow fire at 21 feet; 4" rapid fire.
     
  21. Boba Fett

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    Neither the Holdster or the Wallet Holster are that sort, according to the information on Holdster's site which I linked to.
     
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    A pocket holster:
    *Keeps dirt out of the gun.
    *Keeps sweat off of the gun.
    *Protects the gun if you drop it.
    *Covers the trigger and makes an ND impossible.

    *But most importantly, it keeps the gun in the exact same position standing upright all the time, so you don't have to fumble around with it when you need it right now,
    in the Very Worst Way!

    rcmodel
     
  24. Tirod

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    Again, the ingenuity of man in getting around the law is amazing. "Outlaw" switchblades, we get Assisted Opening, thumbstuds, discs, holes, and waves.

    Make the original wallet holster a $200 taxable item, well, just trim it down until the BATF says it no longer applies.

    The real decision is whether you actually need the feature. I have grown quite fond of pocket clipped knives with oval hole thumb opening. I use them many times a day.

    A CCW holster with opening for the trigger finger, not so much. I'd rather get it out of the holster completely to align with my other gun draw habits, not accomodate a unique grip and force additional practice.

    If someone could patiently explain the major increase in efficiency during draw and use, maybe I would understand, but until then I'm setting it in the category with CCW badges and backup guns for my backup gun.

    Still, I kinda like the idea, but that's the inner child speaking, I think. :evil:
     
  25. 1KPerDay

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    Do the holsters with the anti-print flap on one side still release the pistol on the draw? My main issue is the holster coming out of my pocket with the gun. About 50% of the time my desantis nemesis comes out with my j-frame. I've ordered a mika for that one but I need something for my new LCP.
     
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