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Holland & Holland Film

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by dak0ta, Nov 12, 2012.

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  1. dak0ta

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    Makes me feel so very Brit-ish. Remnant of Empire

     
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  3. dak0ta

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    All in with the H&H Signature Range Rover!

     
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    Haha this is the antithesis to rappers and their bling!
     
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    The only thing between me and some of those fine guns is six numbers on a lottery ticket.

    Worth noting is the fine craftsmanship shown in the video.

    Ron
     
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    Maybe some can see why those guns cost what they do - that hand fitting and finishing is second to none
     
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    Many many years ago,,,

    Many many years ago,,,
    I was a young GI on leave in London,,,
    I walked into their showroom and was treated very nicely.

    They were reluctant to allow me to handle their new firearms,,,
    But the gentleman on the floor did allow me to hold and aim a used double-rifle.

    At that time the used double-rifle would have been over 3 years pay for me.

    All in all they were very polite and kind to a poor-but-appreciative young GI.

    Especially since all I could afford to purchase was a small key-chain,,,
    At that time (early 70's) that keychain was two days pay for me,,,
    It was the least expensive thing in their store. [​IMG]

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    Many here do not have an idea how long their employees work there - it takes YEARS to move from being an apprentice to skilled craftsman - they don't just get to watch a You Tube video to learn how to assemble things. When you have to take a small block of steel and make the screw needed, or a flat piece and turn it into a hardened leaf spring, it takes skill. As was shown in the video, to get the barrels to the right balance and weight point, they are meticulously hand filed little by little to get there.

    Are they worth the cost? To many the answer is yes; to those who would just be happy with a maverick pump - good for you, but you would never understand it - it isn't snobbery, but an appreciation for a certain detail that many simply misunderstand. Even at their high prices in this economy, a bespoke gun has a two year waiting time frame
     
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    Wow, models with H&H gear. Big deal.

    I found it interesting that superimposed over the music was the same exact gunshot over and over, and an occasional heat-related sound, but no car engines or voices or clinking of glasses.

    Hoity-toity nonsense. I bet few of the "shooters" depicted ever shot a gun before they were cast in the video.
     
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    Going to the shop in England and getting fitted for a double barrel has been on my bucket list for a while now. I'll be able to afford it one of these decades...

    I can't decide which is more beautiful, though: the guns, or the Maserati.
     
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    I have a Holland and Holland Rook Rifle #5 (think .360 plinker) that was my father's, living in my gunsafe. Not one of their awsome shotguns or double rifles, but the workmanship is incredible. He picked it up in a pawnshop in the '70s for $100.
     
  12. oneounceload

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    Guess you fit my previous statement:

    Redmond - have you ever fired that Rook rifle? I bet it is a neat gun to shoot
     
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    Yes, I've shot it and it's fun, but finding ammo (#5 Rook) is difficult.

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    And a sidelever to boot.DAMN! I have always wanted a Steven Grant side lever sidelock........but I need a winning Powerball ticket

    Very nice and thanks for the photos!
     
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    Cool video. High production value, that's for sure. A lot of H&H product placement. Love seeing the barrels being put together, fitting a customer for LOP and the cannon fire at the end. Thanks for sharing :D .
     
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    Man, what an awesome video. I mean, wow, those clothes are FABULOUS! And don't get me started on the dinette set!

    I'm poor. Hopefully not forever, but I am now which of course stilts my opinion. Those firearms transcend simple tools and fall into the realm of art, no doubt, but while I may not completely appreciate those firearms because of their out-of-reach status, something about that ad tells me their target demographic are more interested in completing a look rather than appreciating the workmanship themselves.
     
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    So how is this different from 99.99% of the commercials in the world?

    I would have sold my sister to the gypsies for an opportunity to apprentice for that company.

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    Oh, if only I had the funds...
     
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    Don't get me wrong, guys. I'm all for quality and all for the idea of earned exclusivity. I have some of it myself; I can go on a military base and always find a parking space because of earned exclusivity. My criticism is limited to that marketing approach, appealing to the too-often-bought-into notion that if I buy a Brand X widget I'll be cooler, thinner, better looking, and able to travel in a higher social circles than before I had the Brand X widget.

    I'm sure handmade-to-order H&H guns are awesome, but are they enough better at what they are supposedly designed to do (break clays, kill game, etc.) than factory produced, mass market firearms to justify their hyper prices or long production wait times? That's a question for each individual who can afford one to answer. What I am confident in saying is that owning an H&H gun will not automatically make you part of the depicted culture.
     
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    "That club sucks, anyway", said the guy who couldn't get in. :neener:

    I'm teasing. I will never afford one, either. But if I ever hit it big, I'm taking the first flight to that god forsaken country to get one built.

    Will it help my shooting? Probably not by much. But when you have more money than sense, there's only so many Maserati's that will fit in your garage :D
     
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    Well it reminds me to be proud to be an American.
    For while I can appreciate the finer things and image they are marketing, and the craftmanship of the firearms, it also reminds me that in many parts of Europe firearms are for hunting, and hunting has long been primarily for the wealthy.

    In America firearm sports are for everyone.
    You don't need permission, or proof that you have land to shoot on in the country, or belong to a club for X length of time to get a permit to even have one at home, locked away and unloaded.
    You don't have to be able to afford the use of expensive private land, and meet the approval of the owners or have good connections to go on a hunt.


    Since firearms are for everyone there is a much larger base that supports firearm rights. This reduces how quickly your rights are erroded no matter where you stand in society.
     
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    You haven't tried hunting in TX or any other state where most land is in private hands then, have you??

    Most of Europe, like certain states here, are mostly private lands. I see a lot of folks here in the East paying for leases in several states, and then they have to do all the work to the land - in Europe, someone else does all that work.

    Guns in Europe are also used for target and other competitions, not just hunting- gee - just like here
     
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    That was a cool film. I'm not really gushing over the hoity toity rich aspect of it but I think even the average person could appreciate a gun made by hand the old fashion way and that's what I like about it.
     
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    Deliciously snooty.

    You can buy everything in that first commercial including the car at H&H. And you need Hugo Drax supervillain kind of money to do so.
     
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    Did anyone notice no eye protection worn by the clay shooters?

    Nice production, but yes, more sound effects given the visual cues would have been much appreciated.
     
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