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Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by whatnickname, Sep 27, 2020.

  1. Trunk Monkey

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    There used to be a television show called Life On Mars the premise was a cop from the 21st century gets sent back in time to the late sixties.

    There was one scene where all the cops had to draw their guns and they emphasize the fact that all the 60s cops have their fingers on the trigger and the 21st century cop had his finger indexed. When they set up the scene in the camera first thing you saw was everybody's hands and they drew attention to the difference.

    Their intent was to show that he was out of his time and place but it's interesting that that's what they picked to show that
     
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  2. Carl N. Brown

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    In the X Files episode Reminisces of a Cigarette Smoking Man the CSM sets up the unlikeliest sniper rifle I had seen. A shoulder stocked revolver with a long silenced barrel and night vision riflescope.

    I found out it was a mockup of an actual weapon, Knight's Armament Revolver Rifle built on a Ruger Super Blackhawk with the barrel and cylinder fitted so tight there was almost no gap gas leakage so the silencer actually worked on the actual revolver.
     
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  3. drk1

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    Some of the old Hollywood folks were real gun people. When I was a child, I had the opportunity to meet two of them -- Buddy Hacket and Joey Bishop. Hacket had a great collection, but wasn't much of a shooter. He could and did shoot, but he was more interested in collecting. Bishop, on the other hand, liked to shoot and was pretty good at it. Still have fond memories of both of them.
     
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    I did enjoy Westworld, though it would have been better if they had wrapped it up after Season 2 with a more conclusive ending- but they were very fuzzy on the exact workings of the firearms in the Park. Sometimes they appear lethal to humans, firing some sort of physical projectile, other times they are portayed as firing "blanks."

    The scene wherein Ed Harris almost gets caught monologuing while laboriously reloading his Lemat was funny.

    In the original film, the guns were pretty much normal, firing live ammunition, but the hosts were supposed to be unable to fire at a human thermal signature. Of course, as with "Jurassic Park" chaos theory takes over and it does not end well for the guests......
     
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  5. Trunk Monkey

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    Actuall sniper critiques sniper movies.

     
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    Plus those must have been super powerful bullets they took out everything... Do not know about a 300 round mp40 but can get you over 60 with an Mp40/I...

    MP40_17-5-2013-(7).jpg
     
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  7. Spats McGee

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    I enjoy a good action movie and don't let the gun mistakes bother me. Nonetheless, there are always two situations that bug me.

    1. When people who obviously handle guns as part of their professions wait until the moment before confrontation/conflict to actually chamber a round. Something tells me that The Black Mamba, assassin feared 'round the world, would probably be comfortable carrying with a round chambered.

    2. Bad Guy (with gun) chases Good Guy. GG hits BG with chair/pipe/wrench/whatever, knocking him unconscious. GG then walks right past (downed) BG to continue his escape, but does not disarm him. Heck, even Mrs. McGee yells "take his gun, you idiot!"
     
  8. Outlaw75

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    What always got me was that Hollywood seemed to believe that the entire Wehrmacht was armed with them.
     
  9. Corpral_Agarn

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    It requires training and desensitization.

    I use a whip from horseback regularly and that can be fairly loud. I still don't shoot from horseback, however.

    I prefer my horse can hear things LOL

    My understanding is that a popular cavalry technique was to intentionally deafen the horses
     
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  10. indy1919a4

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    Weren't they??? :)
     
  11. wiscoaster

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    This whole topic is funny to me, because I've noticed since I became a gun nut, every movie where a character carries I always zero in on the character's weapon to try and figure out what it is. It's a whole new way of watching movies.
     
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  12. .308 Norma

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    I can relate, but it's not a "new way of watching movies" to me. I've been a "gun nut" as far back as I can remember, and I'm 72.;)
    My always zeroing in on the character's weapon and trying to figure out what it is irritates my wife sometimes - or so she tells me. But honest to goodness - isn't it worth a little bit of a rant when an American hero like John Wayne calls a Colt Walker a "Colt's Dragoon?"o_O
     
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    How many of you remember the sci-fi show "Firefly" and the subsequent movie "Serenity"? Adam Baldwin was the "weapons expert" (and walking armory) Jayne. About 2 years ago, he was in a movie set in 1929 called "Legend of 5 Mile Cave" and in it, he was showing a young boy (about 11) to shoot what I think was a Winchester 30-30. What surprised me was that Baldwin reminded the boy to keep his finger off the trigger, not once but twice. This was in addition to "stance" and "breathing". Nice to see accuracy like that.
     
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  14. Riomouse911

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    I bet he wanted to be in more than one Star Trek episode. ;)

    I always called the members of the crew who went down to a planet with Kirk, Spock, Bones or Scotty ” the expendables” ...because you knew none of them were beaming back up to the Enterprise when the trip was over :rofl:.

    Stay safe.
     
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    Same on Combat, you know the new face in the unit was a goner especially if he was not the guest star & sent on point :what:
     
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    I know it's fiction, even if it's supposed to be based on true events. I know in the real world, people have handled firearms irresponsibly even when they are "trained professionals" or very firearm savvy. Dumb gun handling shouldn't come as a shock when it happens on TV or in movies.

    Or when they just fired their pump shotgun, stopped to make some witty dialogue, then menacingly rack the slide again when it should have still had a round chambered.

    The one that bothers me most is when the guy with the gun shoves the muzzle into someone's face and makes whatever demand is scripted. Sometimes it's the good guy/gal with the gun, sometimes the bad guy. Sometimes it's even the cop. I sincerely hope there are no law enforcement offices training officers to cover bad guys from 12" away.
    In the movies, they always lose in that scenario. In real life, they could quite possibly lose their gun.
     
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  17. Armybrat

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    Lonesome Dove did a pretty good job with the period firearms.
     
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  18. Spats McGee

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    Agreed. Sometimes I open my mouth to speak when this happens and Mrs. McGee will say, "I know. The whole purpose of the gun is to hit the bad guy from further away. I get it."
     
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  19. defjon

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    Anyone catch Way of the Gun?

    Ryan Phillipe, Benecio Del Toro.

    Fun film, 1911s, the "tactical operaror" types look to use hks, the old seasoned guys used mostly 38 snubs (and did quite well).

    2001 I think around there "vintage" ha have.
     
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  20. 460Shooter

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    Hollywood is dumb, and full of inaccuracies.

    Nothing new.
     
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    While we are on the subject has it come to anyone's attention that in the westerns, both movies and tv shows, that about 90% of the people that are shot that are scripted to die just fall DRT without a twitch or quiver? Also when the hero shoots it out with someone and although there is still a threat out there he just walks off after holstering his gun without reloading? Don't get me started on lever action rifles. On second though I will. Big gun battle, the hero gets the bad guy at close up gunpoint and then tells him to do something and to emphasise his point he works that lever and nothing comes out of the chamber. This seems to happen every single solitary time this scene is played out.

    Although I see but don't get my shorts in a twist about these things when I am watching a movie with my oldest grandson I point them out just to annoy him. :evil: His reply is always, "It's a MOVIE, Grandpa".
     
  22. Mike J

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    Yep. There are other things that bother me & I do realize it might be necessary to tell the story but TV/Movies shows people pull guns out & then decide to have a conversation. The idea of pulling a gun & then standing there talking seems nuts to me.
     
  23. Shanghai McCoy

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    If I may quote a movie...
    "If you're going to shoot, shoot. Don't talk." ;)
     
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  24. Trunk Monkey

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    The scene in El Dorado where John Wayne and Robert Mitchum go into the bar to arrest Ed Asner's character.

    The bartender (Robert Mitchum's brother John BTW) reaches for a gun under the bar and Mitchum shoots a round into the bar to stop him ( and if you listen real close Mitchum says "Hold it right there JOHNNY." Even though the bartender's name is Elmer). Mitchum then works the lever on his rifle and even though HE JUST FIRED A ROUND no shell casing comes out.

     
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  25. Outlaw75

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    As far as Westerns goofs go; there's not much that beats Berry Pepper in the Coen Bros. True Grit remake holding his 1875 Remington right beside his ear and firing off a signal shot without flinching.
     
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