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Hollywood Liberals & the MSM still Not Forgiving Charlton Heston:

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Winchester 73, Apr 11, 2008.

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  1. Winchester 73

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    These sickening ,remorseless souls(specially George Clooney)should not have been breathing the same air as Mr.Heston.
    I firmly believe there is a special place in Hell reserved for them.
    But at least one journalist stands up.

    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/BrianFitzpatrick/2008/04/10/no_forgiving_charlton_heston

    No forgiving Charlton Heston
    By Brian Fitzpatrick
    Thursday, April 10, 2008

    My grandfather, a college football star, played for the NFL champion Providence Steam Roller back in 1928, so this weekend I was looking forward to seeing George Clooney’s new 1920s football movie, Leatherheads. That’s before I found out how Clooney, like many lefties in Hollywood and the news media, had treated the late Charlton Heston.

    Clooney’s offense took place a few years back. According to Life Site News, “For his conservative stands, however, Heston was attacked and reviled by his Hollywood colleagues. In 2003 actor and leftist political activist George Clooney joked about Heston’s illness [Alzheimer’s disease], and, after Heston criticized him for the remark, he retorted, ‘I don’t care. Charlton Heston is the head of the National Rifle Association. He deserves whatever anyone says about him.’”

    Making fun of somebody with Alzheimer’s disease and feeling no remorse is about as low as it gets, but it isn’t all that surprising in this case. To Clooney, Heston’s embrace of conservative orthodoxy on the Second Amendment made him subhuman, not even deserving of the most basic courtesies.

    A person like Clooney can only dream of rivaling Charlton Heston’s life accomplishments. Let’s leave aside the leading roles in some of the greatest movies ever made, the acting laurels and the celebrity, and look at the man:

    Married to his college sweetheart, Lydia, for 64 years.
    Beloved father of two successful children, one a Hollywood director.
    Unabashed Christian and church attender.
    First among his peers; President of the Screen Actors Guild a record six terms.
    Served his country in World War II as a B-25 crewman.
    Campaigner for civil rights; protested as early as 1961, long before it became popular, and marched on Washington alongside Dr. Martin Luther King.
    Protector of the unborn; provided the introduction for Dr. Bernard Nathanson’s great pro-life film, Silent Scream.
    Champion of public decency; shamed Time Warner into dropping rapper Ice-T’s contract because of his song celebrating the murder of police officers.
    Defender of individual liberty; President of the National Rifle Association.
    Ask Heston which of his accomplishments he treasured most, and he’d probably point to this tribute from his family: “Charlton Heston was seen by the world as larger than life…. We knew him as an adoring husband, a kind and devoted father, and a gentle grandfather with an infectious sense of humor. He served these far greater roles with tremendous faith, courage and dignity.”

    Sadly, many in the liberal news media wear ideological blinders that render them incapable of appreciating the entirety of Charlton Heston. Some journalists can only see Heston waving a musket in the air at the 2000 NRA convention and growling, “Out of my cold, dead hands.” They regard Heston’s pro-gun stance as beyond the pale, as if it were morally reprehensible to stand up for our Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. (Click here for a study of media anti-gun bias.) Heston’s death this past Saturday has allowed them to express hostility similar in kind, if not in tone or degree, to Clooney.

    ABC’s Barbara Walters: “He is very controversial or was because of his support of NRA.”
    ABC’s Dan Harris: “As President of the National Rifle Association, he became one of the most polarizing figures in American politics.”
    CBS’s Russ Mitchell: “Once the quintessential big screen hero, in his later years he drew as much attention for his controversial politics.”
    AP’s David Germain: a “fierce gun-rights advocate.”
    Not “principled” or “passionate,” but “fierce.” Charlton Heston was “polarizing” and “controversial” because he refused to toe the line of political correctness.

    I met Heston once, in an elevator on the way to a gathering of Hollywood conservatives. No, the meeting wasn’t held in the elevator. Instead of asking how he parted the Red Sea, I brought up a Second Amendment essay he’d recently written. Engaging his mind, rather than his celebrity, delighted him. He was affable, unpretentious and witty, and he clearly had the courage of his convictions.

    After forcing Time Warner to cut its ties with Ice-T over the Cop Killer album, Heston quipped, “Still, I’m proud of what I did, though now I’ll surely never be offered another film by Warner, or get a good review from Time. On the other hand, I doubt I’ll get a traffic ticket very soon.” Now there’s a man Kipling would be proud of.

    This weekend you won’t catch me dead at that Clooney movie. I think I’ll head for the rifle range instead, then crank up the home theater and enjoy my brand new DVD of Ben Hur.
     
  2. TexasRifleman

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    The fact that they all hated him so much is a testament to his effectiveness.

    I am enjoying watching them make fools of themselves, and I'm sure Mr Heston is enjoying the same as he's at the shooting range with Jeff Cooper and John Moses Browning.

    Maybe David Crockett too since Mr Heston favored the muzzleloaders so much :)
     
  3. hankdatank1362

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    God bless that man.


    A truly great generation is almost extinct, and we have nothing to replace it but a fresh crop of paris hiltons or gangster wannabes.

    No solution in sight. Sad, really.
     
  4. Eightball

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    Yep.
     
  5. 230RN
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    230RN Marines raising the left-leaning Pisa tower.

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    Twits.
     
  6. JCMAG

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    Hey now, not everyone in the new generation is lost :D

    One of the things that I've noticed about the "liberal media" and "liberals" that I know is that their politics are more important than their respect for human life.

    But let it be said that, historically and presently, those with radical political ambitions on both sides of the spectrum are guilty of dehumanization.

    So be it. They will, somewhere sometime, get what they've asked for -- a government of their own designs that has neither respect for their liberty nor their humanity.

    Let us continue a great president's mission by making sure that that does not happen, deserve it as the radicals may...
     
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    Am I the only person who doesn't see these comments as particularly negative? Honestly, they all sound pretty accurate to me...
     
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    misANTHrope,

    Accuracy might be one thing, but balance is another. Without knowing everything else they said (if anything), I can't know the total context... But the sense is that many in the liberal media chose to report on Mr. Heston's demise with language of a particular tilt and connotation.

    Don't forget that the BBC has taken words like "terrorist" and "Moslem" out of the lexicon of allowable language by their reporters.

    Sometimes you can convey as much by what you DON'T say, as what you DO say...

    -- JFrame
     
  9. bikerdoc

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    perhaps ted nugent or tom sellick is the future?
     
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    misANTHrope,

    The thing is, those statements from those bully pulpits were supposed to sum up the man's life -- epitaphs. And I'm sorry to all of my brethren of the gun rights movement, but to focus solely on how "controversial" his involvement with and commitment to the 2nd amendment was is demeaning to all of the other things he did. Heston was a great American, war veteran, hero. A man. He was a pioneer of civil rights and human decency, not just the 2nd amendment, but all of them, and spoke out for them whenever and wherever he saw the need, regardless of personal cost.

    A few years ago, there were a lot of people with bumper stickers that said, "My president is Charlton Heston/Moses/Ben Hur."

    He should have been.
     
  11. svtruth

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    Great anecdote

    on Glenn Beck from Wayne Lapierre:
    Heston attended a studionannual meeting as a stockholder to protest their production of a rap song advocating killing police officers. After the meeting he said "I'll probably never get another role from the studio, but I'll bet I never get another speeding ticket."
    Some time later he was pulled over, the officer just told him to slow down and thanked him for his support.
     
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    Charlton Heston as the President of the United States would have scared Osama into surrendering to the french!
    No George Clooney movies in this house, either.
    BTW, here is but one peice of that "song", the only one with no profanity.
    Thank you, Mr Heston, may you rest in peace in Heaven, and wouldja mind sending down someone like you to take over?
     
  13. Just Jim

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    I doubt Clooney could ever measure up to Heston, and Clooney knows it.

    jj
     
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    Didn't George Clooney make that arrogant speech about how great Hollywood was? Saying that Hollywood got involved in civil rights before it was popular. Did he have any clue that it was in part Charlton Heston that he was speaking about?
     
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    In my mind, there is absolutely no shred of doubt that he could ever even dream of it, let alone do it! :fire:
     
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    One should be proud to be hated by imbeciles.
     
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    Hollywood is totally tolerant so long as you agree with their views... look at what happened to Jerry Doyle... you know, the guy that played Gerabaldi on Babylon 5... he stunned his friends when he announced that he was running for the US House as a republican... within a few months, he was persona non grata in the acting world and almost immediately lost all of his friends
     
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    I had no idea Jerry Doyle ran for the House.What happened with that?
     
  19. Deanimator

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    Maybe they weren't really friends.

    If a bunch of leeches fall off of you, what have you REALLY lost?
     
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    Am I the only person who doesn't see these comments as particularly negative? Honestly, they all sound pretty accurate to me...
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    In obituary-speak, those statements are as close to cursing the man as you can get.

    If Heston had campagined for gun control, they would be clamoring about how he was a "courageous champion of public safety and non violence." Never mind how little "courage" it takes to toe the left-socialist party line in Hollywood.
     
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    Being hated by those who represent everything you are against is the highest compliment one can receive. It means you were effective.
     
  22. Acheron

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    I'm really getting sick of these threads...


    If you don't like George Clooney, fine. If you don't like Hollywood liberals, fine. If you don't like the way they talk about a dead man, that's fine too. But there's no need to be dragging it out all the time and constantly lamenting about 'the liberals' as if they're one monolithic bloc. All it does is breed hatred and intolerance and is generally not very High Road. The High Road is a forum to discuss gun rights and other firearms related issues. If you want to actively and creatively help protect our rights, then this is the place.


    But if you just want to bitch about how you don't like other people for any particular reason, take it somewhere else.


    Mods-shut this down before it gets any worse.
     
  23. Linda

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    Hmmm...,

    I really enjoyed reading this thread, until I got to the last post.

    If a thread about Charlton Heston and his detractors is not about gun rights, I sure as heck don't know what is then. That gentleman did more for our RKBA and the NRA than most anyone. I appreciate when someone will point out those Hollywood types who do not support what I believe in. Therefore, I can make the educated choice not to support them with my money at the box office or anywhere else. I'm sure Rosie O'Donnell was dancing on his grave as well!

    Then why did you read it? Most other people would pass over threads that don't look of interest to them.

    :banghead:
     
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    Gotta love an argument that someone needs to be "forgiven" for fighting for natural human rights.
     
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    Clooney is an idiot.

    I am really glad that my Dad got Charlton Heston's autograph for me when Mr. Heston visited my town. I just wish that I had been able to meet him.
     
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