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Hollywood Lobbies U.N. on Gun Control

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  1. Waitone

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    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/1/20/170234.shtml?s=tn

    Kenneth R. Timmerman
    Saturday, Jan. 21, 2006

    NEW YORK CITY -- An international coalition of anti-gun groups called on Hollywood to convince a U.N. conference in New York to impose legally-binding United Nations controls over small arms and personal firearms.

    Flanked by Hollywood director Andrew Niccol, advocates from ControlArms, SaferWorld, and the International Action Network on Small Arms, IANSA, hosted a cocktail party at the United Nations headquarters building Tuesday night, followed by a viewing of Niccol's 2005 film, "Lord of War."

    The film, starring Nicolas Cage, is a searing portrayal of an American gun-runner who criss-crosses Africa, supplying warlords and heads of state with a variety of weaponry.

    After dodging bullets and Interpol agents seeking his arrest, Cage returns to his multi-million dollar Manhattan condo and his trophy wife, just like any international businessman. "Cars and cigarettes kill more people than guns," he says at one point. "I simply give people the means to defend themselves."

    The only problem with the film's scarcely-veiled condemnation of international arms traffickers is that Cage's behavior is more harshly regulated in the United States than in virtually any other country around the world, according to the anti-gun lobbyists themselves.

    Brian Wood, a top arms trade analyst for Amnesty International and ControlArms, told anti-gun activists in New York that the arms dealers who have supplied Africa's most brutal war lords over the past decade were French, Russian and Ukrainian - not American.

    "Only 30 countries in the world have laws that regulate arms brokering," he said. They include the 25 European Union nations, Nicaragua, Israel, Japan, South Africa – and the United States. "And that's it," Wood said.

    Victor Bout, who became famous for running guns into improvised air strips in Africa in exchange for raw diamonds, is a Russian national. Leonid Minin, arrested in Milan, Italy on August 5, 2000 for selling arms to the Revolutionary United Front (RUF) in Sierra Leone, is from Ukraine.

    "Arms brokers use the weakest links in the system," Wood said. "A lot of the most damaging cases involve siphoning off surpluses, especially in Central Asia and certain countries in Eastern Europe."

    He lauded two nations for "a high degree of extra-territorial application" of their national arms brokering laws, South Africa and the United States.

    Nevertheless, anti-gun activists made clear at week-long meetings in New York to prepare this summer's UN Small Arms and Light Weapons conference, that their goal was to place legally-binding international restrictions on the possession of personal firearms and the international arms trade.

    "I was in Sierre Leone," British activist Anthea Lawson, a spokesperson for IANSA, told Newsmax. "How can I explain to people who have gone through incredible suffering because of small arms that NRA [National Rifle Association] concerns are blocking an international agreement that would make lots of people safer?"

    International gun control was necessary, she argued, "because the legal trade in weapons is where the illegal trade begins. The weapons themselves all come out of the legal trade."

    In Africa's worst killing spree in modern history, an estimated 500,000 Tutsis were massacred by rival Hutu tribesmen in Rwanda in 1994. But the weapons used were machetes, not firearms.

    Former U.S. Congressman Bob Barr, who is serving as an unpaid advisor to the U.S. delegation to the conference, said that the goal of the non-government organizations and the countries supporting them "is to take away the freedom we possess in our country to possess firearms."

    Just as anti-gun control advocates in the United States, the international NGOs were "focusing on the instrument, not on the underlying problem," he told NewsMax. "It's relatively easy to get a handle on the true problem, which is how do you prevent military weapons from getting into the hands of rogue regimes and genocidal maniacs."

    The Bush administration has set out several "red lines" that the United States would not cross, he said.

    "We will allow no discussion, no negotiation, over civilian possession of firearms," Barr said. Nor will the U.S. agree to any U.N. effort to impose binding U.N. controls on what "non-state actors" a member state will supply with weapons.


    "We feel it's the prerogative of the president of the United States to decide what groups to support," Barr said. "There could be freedom fighters in ‘Freedonia' we find it in our interest to arm."

    Countries backing the effort to place legally-binding international restrictions on the trade in small arms include Canada, which hosted a presentation by Amnesty International at the United Nations, Britain, Mexico, Japan, the Netherlands, and Brazil.
     
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    U.N., what a joke. This is the same organization that, to the best of my knowledge, circulated an internal memo not to use the word “genocide” and “Rawanda” in the same sentence because recognizing the situation for what it was would have required their intervention.

    I cannot imagine a president, any president, who would want to handover a fair amount of their power to a third party composed mostly of European ilk that all have axes to grind. The power hungry do not like to give up one iota of power they possess.
     
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    and remember the stalwart advocate of international peace and human rights reinhard heydrich was once president of interpol
     
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    The democrats like the UN to have power. Their last presidential candidate said that before using our military, the action would have to pass the "global test".
     
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    Those who have annointed themselves to be our future leaders have no care for what the masses think or how everyone else is supposed to make ends meet, day to day.
    By giving the United Nations control over elected governments they can buypass all the objections by paying a few well placed dignitaries a small fee.

    Its just an end run around your local government.

    Any party that threw enough power onto a system outside of your government could be assured of holding that power, no matter if they lose the next election.
     
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    Gotta hand it to the coalition; they identified our weak link.
     
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    If Hollywood hates guns so much,why are guns featured so prominently in its films?:D

    Hollywood needs to SDASU and bring us their women.:D
     
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    <pistol> envy.
     
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    In the unlikely event that the global anti-gun gun activists were to succeed in their general disarmament plan it would only lead to a much, much larger underground black market for firearms than exists today.

    And I don't really see American gun owners kowtowing to international demands on this, anyway, no matter what.
     
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    "How can I explain to people who have gone through incredible suffering because of small arms that NRA [National Rifle Association] concerns are blocking an international agreement that would make lots of people safer?"

    This uneducated and emotional logic should be ingnored. What they don't want you to know is that those people in Africa are suffering because of Dictators that are stealing thier food.
     
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    Does the United Nations have any redeeming social value at all?
     
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    I liked visiting it when I was a kid.
     
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    United Nations: A pretend world government.
    Hollywood: Folks who pretend they are intelligent, brave, noble, honorable, etc.
    Seems like a good combination.
     
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    At least the current administration sides with the US citizen on this issue. Of course many here say there is no difference between the GOP and Democrats:rolleyes: . I'm sure President Kerry wouldn't have sided with the UN either:rolleyes: .
     
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    One day this country will have a president, Republican or Democrat that will sign the International arms ban agreement, which will eventually lead to the US populace being completely disarmed, like the rest of the world. It is only a matter of time.
     
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    Those who would rule us have determined the US insistence on protecting the second amendment is the single biggest hinderance to the implementation of global governance. George Soros has spend lots of capital and prestige trying to defeat RKBA in the US and he consistently loses.
     
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    These from your very own home state of Massachusetts. Just because a law is on the books doesn't make it enforced or followed. ;) :D
     
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    Apparently, though, the UN's ass is in Iraq, trying to supply food to insurgents. Thusly, it is too far away to kiss.






    :D :neener:
     
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    Can I quote the former President of the NRA? "......from my cold dead hands"

    I thought my state sucked until I saw where you lived. No offence, jmho. :D;)
     
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    I don't know about that Mass sucks, I actually like living in this state. Mass gun laws are not that bad compared to Caly. It easy for me to get a concealed weapons permit. How about you?
     
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    But compared to, say, the states to the north of you... :D
     
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    You want my guns ok well let me give you the ammo first.
     
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    The antis won't do a grab, they are too smart for that. They will slowly implement gun control measures over decades until no one has a gun or until not enough people care about the issue any longer than they will do an outright ban. They are very patient.
     
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