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Holster for a 5" 1911 with a Surefire X300 attached

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Balrog, Jun 18, 2017.

  1. Balrog

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    Does anyone make a good holster for a 5" 1911 with a Surefire X300 weaponlight attached? I would prefer shoulder, but would take a belt holster.
     
  2. gotboostvr

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    It'll have to be a one off custom order. You might be able to order a Kydex belt holster in that set up.

    My advice for a leather shoulder rig would be to find a local leather worker. Gun shows and hobbyist shops would be good places to ask around.
     
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  4. JTQ

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    I know it's unsolicited, but here's Tucker Gun Leather's take on weapon's mounted lights for concealed carry...

    http://www.tuckergunleather.com/faq/
    There are a lot of kydex belt holsters for light mounted guns, and very few leather belt holsters. I really can't think of any shoulder holsters for guns with mounted lights.

    For kydex belt mounted holsters...

    Raven Concealment Systems (RCS) offers them http://rcsgear.com

    JM Custom Kydex http://www.jmcustomkydex.com

    In leather, the only concealment holster I can think of is Pure Kustom http://www.purekustom.com

    There are bunches of duty type holsters that offer holsters for guns with mounted lights.

    If you really needed a shoulder holster with a mounted light, I don't know if they offer them, but I'd check with...

    Andrews Custom Leather http://www.andrewsleather.com/traditional.htm

    Black Hills Leather https://blackhillsleather.com/shoulder-holsters.html
     
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    White Hat MaxTuck. They also make a OWB holster if that is what you are looking for. Added benefit, they are having a 15% off sale for Father's Day through Sunday.

    https://www.whitehatholsters.com/maxtuck-hybrid-iwb-holster/

    Q. Does Tucker recommend carrying a defensive pistol with a light attached to an accessory rail?

    A. Tucker says, "If you're on a SWAT team, go for it. If not, your pistol is a quick-response tool for a sudden and extreme self-defense situation. If you have a light on the gun, you may find it distracting enough to slow dowin your response."

    And unless you are a police officer you won't need more than a single shot firearm. Equally stupid "advice". One of the firearm 4 rules is "Know your target and what is beyond it." Pretty hard not knowing your target if you can't see it.
     
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    +1. Look for a custom kydex guy in your area. There are several of these guys at our gun shows that will make your holster at the show. So just bring your pistol and light to gun shows and shop.
     
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    Raven Concealment
     
  9. JTQ

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    You can certainly do whatever you want. Here are a couple more data points...

    Regarding Tom Givens students that have been in shootouts...

    https://revolverscience.com/2016/04/01/low-light-red-sights-and-tom-givens-glock-35/
    More from Tom Givens in American Hangunner regarding the difference between civilian concealed carry and LE/military use...

    https://americanhandgunner.com/when-citizens-fight-back/
     
  10. Balrog

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    Seems like I can never start a thread here without someone getting sidetracked on some point. Usually I carry a Glock 19 in a belt holster and without a light. I have a second Glock 19 upon which I would like a light, and use this as my bedside gun. I would prefer it to be in some type of holster, rather than just loose in the night stand. It is conceivable that I might want to carry it on my person but not in my hand such as if I hear a bump in the night and walk down to the security camera monitor to see what is going on outside. Hence, the shoulder holster idea, since I do not usually wear a belt to bed.

    Also I live on land outside the city, so I sometimes find myself needing to check on stuff outside after dark. It would be nice to have a gun with a light on it then, too.

    I am not on a SWAT team. I doubt the light is necessary. I also doubt the gun is necessary. But you never know when you might need a gun. You also never know when you might need a gun in a dark place, where lights tend to be most handy.

    There are a total of six people who live in my house. It is imperative that I positively identify anyone I am about to shoot at. I think a light will help with that.

    I am sure Tom Givens is a smart guy who gives good advice, but after reading the two articles, I am not seeing how they are applicable to my situation. My situation does not involve concealed carry.
     
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    It's probably easier to put on a belt than a shoulder holster. Have a belt loaded up with whatever you need, holster, mag pouches, flashlight pouch (a hand held backup for you), cell phone case, etc. When trouble hits, put the belt on.

    Since you've clarified this isn't for concealed carry, there are any number of duty type holsters that accommodate a gun with a mounted light. By the way, did you want this for a Glock 19, or was it a 5" 1911? In any case, Safariland is probably what most of the LE types use, though Blade-Tech is probably a perfectly good choice for the home owner.

    Safariland http://www.safariland.com/products/holsters-and-gear/

    I usually turn on the house lights.
     
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    I can't get the lights turned on in other rooms till I get to the switches. I can shine a light down the hall long before I get to the light switch.
     
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    Regarding the G19 vs 1911 - Both are pretty common. The 1911 has a greater variety of rails, so that may make holster choices a little more difficult, though I think with the light attached what rail you have doesn't matter that much.

    A Blade-Tech ( http://shop.blade-tech.com/index.php?cPath=1_23_25&osCsid=rsn3b7eentb06991b5bdukgm55#.WUforcbMzR0 ) on Wilderness Tactical 5-stitch Frequent Flyer belt ( http://www.thewilderness.com/belts/frequent-flyer-belt/ ), with whatever else you wanted to wear on the belt, would probably be a sound, fairly inexpensive option.
     
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    "Trainers" who discount and dismiss Law Enforcement and military experience are not worth listening to. Any situation where a firearm is used as a defensive tool offers learning points. This lame duck excuse of "Well military engagements are different etc" is counter productive. A light or laser, or both is a tool. In addition to a firearm. You can defend yourself with a stick. A knife works better. A gun works better than a knife. There are no real downsides to having a firearm with a light attached compared to potential benefits when added with worthwhile training.
     
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    Like JTQ, I can recommend the Safepacker, from The Wilderness dot com. It can be worn on the belt, like a belt holster, or on a strap/sling, like a shoulder bag, which, is essence, creates a shoulder holster. It can be fastened onto a pack. It can be hand-carried, with or without a wrist strap. An older Safepacker, found on evil-bay, may not accommodate a weapon-mounted light, but the newer ones will. Be sure to take the extra length of one's preferred light into account, when ordering. My Safepacker, in the Government +1" size, carries a G34 with mounted Surefire light quite well. (The G34 is the Glock designed closest in dimensions to a Colt Government Model.) I have also used it to carry full-sized 1911 pistols, though mine have no accessory rails, and G19 and G19 pistols, with and without lights mounted. This is my usual dog-walking holster.

    JM Custom Kydex makes true art in Kydex, and is known for being very communicative with customers. My JMCK holsters were not made to accommodate lights, but judging by some photos, JMCK has learned how to make a holster that accommodates a pistol with an WML, without any excess mass and bulk.

    DSG Holsters uses a kydex-like* thermo-formed plastic, for a variety of pistols with lights. These are bulkier holsters, with more material than JMCK, covering a larger footprint, but as concealed carry is not part of your equation, the DSG Alpha should work well.

    The Raven Concealment Phantom is not quite as artfully-crafted as JM Custom Kydex holsters, but is quite close. I have a lefty Phantom for the G19, that accomodates X200/X300 lights.

    The Bawidamann Gotham is an unusual IWB holster, that locks onto a pistol-mounted X300U Surefire light, and has enough clearance to accommodate multiple pistol makes and models. Quality of construction and materials appears superb, but with one very significant caveat: bulkiness/mass. I am considerijg mounting my Gotham inside a pack or bag, rather than using it as a inside-waistand holster.

    *Kydex is not necessarily better than the several other thermo-formed plastics used for making holsters and sheaths.
     
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