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Holstering the Glock or XD with a round in the chamber

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Got_Lead?, May 28, 2011.

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  1. Got_Lead?

    Got_Lead? Member

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    When I carry my XD, I do carry it with a round in the pipe. However, I have to admit, that 5 pound trigger with no thumb safety makes me a little nervous, especially when holstering. I know there is the "New York" trigger spring for the Glocks, and XD's can be had with thumb safeties, but I'm kind of a purist, and like the pistol "as originaly designed". But it's kind of like having a 1911 cocked with the safety off, or carrying your revolver around with the hammer back. It does have my attention, always.

    Is there anyone else that feels similarly?

    I don't fault either of these fine pistols, but it just seems they could go bang pretty easy if the trigger ever got snagged up on anything.
     
  2. Strahley

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    Just pay attention to what you're doing while holstering. I have never once been worried about the gun going off while holstering

    Think about it...the trigger guard will block anything in front of the gun on the way down. If something is sticking out to grab the trigger, it'll be blocked by that. If something is already inside of the trigger guard (i.e. a finger) then you weren't paying attention in the first place
     
  3. basicblur

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    'Proper' way to holster an XD is to place your thumb on the rear of the slide-doing so removes the web of your hand from the grip safety.
    Check out the last picture on the page here.

    Unlike the picture, I place the pad of my thumb on the rear of the slide-I find it:
    1. Moves the web of my hand farther away from the grip safety (than the pictured method).
    2. Provides more tactile feedback using the pad of my thumb.
    3. Offers more strength to prevent in adverent movement of the slide.

    'Course, it goes without saying? that your finger should be outside the trigger guard!
     
  4. The Lone Haranguer

    The Lone Haranguer Member

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    Just a few precautions

    Use a rigidly constructed (leather or plastic is fine, just so it doesn't collapse) holster that covers the trigger. Be sure there are no intervening objects (shirt tails, drawstrings and such) between the gun and holster. If you feel any kind of hanging up or catching when reholstering, STOP! and find out why. And, most importantly, keep your finger off the trigger.
     
  5. Mike J

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    I agree with basic blur-as long as you keep your hand off the grip safety it while holstering it should not be an issue. While I do not own a Glock I would think as long as you pay attention you should be fine. Like others have said use a good holster that covers the trigger guard.
     
  6. Big_John1961

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    What is the point of a defensive handgun that you have rack the slide before it's ready to shoot? I want that sucker ready right now. No BG is going to wait for you to get ready. Be careful with your manual of arms and you'll be fine. These pistols were designed to be carried with a round chambered.
     
  7. Gryffydd

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    I wouldn't even worry about this on the Glock as long as I was sticking it in a decent holster, but how on Earth could you worry about holstering an XD? I think the grip safety is mostly superfluous, but it definitely eliminates the discharge on holstering concern.
     
  8. TonyT

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    I wouldnever use a gun for self defense which had an external hammer or any external safety. I see no problem with training oneself to keep ones finger off the trigger exept when firing and al;ways carry with a round in the chamber - it would be useless to carry a pistol without a round in the chamber.
     
  9. jon86

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    If it makes you nervous, first take the holster off of your body/belt. Carefully insert gun into holster. THEN put holster on your body. A properly holstered firearm will never fire.
     
  10. withdrawn34

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    The great thing about an XD is that it has a grip safety. Just keep your hand off the grip safety (putting your thumb on the back of the slide helps) and reholster.

    Of course, that is not an excuse to forgo the normal rules of reholstering (making sure no objects, especially any shirt tails are in the area), but it does add an extra step of peace of mind. I really enjoy it. To be honest, I've really come to love the grip safety. I wish Glocks had one.

    Also, keep in mind there is very rarely any need to reholster quickly. There is no rush. Take your time, and be safe.
     
  11. HK Jake

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    Take your hand off the grip safety, and holster.
     
  12. 918v

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    Some people are better off carrying tazers.
     
  13. jon_in_wv

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    I also do NOT like the idea of carrying a weapon like the Glock or my M&Ps in a holster that isn't rigid. I prefer kydex or a Crossbreed holster. I won' t carry it in an un-molded holster that would require "wiggling" the gun down into a collapsed holster or its mouth. I've used a Perters Custom Holster for my M&P for years now through thousands or holsterings and I have no fear its going to discharge when doing so.
     
  14. leadcounsel

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    Been doing it for years and never an issue. Ensure there's no chance of anything (including your finger) in the trigger well. As long as the holster covers the trigger entirely you're fine.
     
  15. Zerodefect

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    Just be careful and use stiff kydex.
    I prefere Raven Concealment holsters and Crossbreed.

    With my Ravens type OWB holsters I'll reholster normally at 3-4oclock.

    With Crossbreed holsters that I wear further back 4-6oclock, I'll open my right hand and feel for the holsters opening location with my fingertips and drop it in. That keeps the trigger covered on one side, and the leather pad covers the other side. No snagging.
     
  16. rogerjames

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    I don't get it... If you follow the basic safety rules, every pistol is equally safe. If you are are a dumbass, then you should be nervous around every pistol.

    I am about to have my first child so I will have to get used to not leaving chambered pistols sitting around...

    That being said... if you are nervous about handling your gun, you shouldn't be handling it.

    You're post is making me nervous already. Hopefully you will never be in the lane next to me at the range.
     
  17. sixgunner455

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    He has a legitimate concern. It's called "Glock leg."

    It's just like what it sounds - something gets into the trigger guard while holstering.

    The solution? Be careful, think about what you're doing, and holster slowly. If you can't get comfortable doing that with your XD or Glock, then carry something else.
     
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    I second the Kydex. No matter how rigid the leather is, it is going to go soft here in hot humid Florida. Once the leather goes soft you either have to take your holster off, reholster the gun and put it back on, or open the holster up with your fingers, or wiggle the muzzle of the gun in. Options 2 & 3 are just stoopid, and 1 is impractical.. so go for Kydex.
     
  19. Dimis

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    if you are reholstering the danger is over (in a defensive situation)
    and we practice the ways we are supposed to fight

    if the threat is over take all the time in the world to reholster and even look at what your doing if you have to

    never rush the reholster of your weapon because it will never matter how fast you can put it back vs how fast you can get it into action and use it

    placing it back in the holster can take as long as you will ever want to take

    just my 2¢
     
  20. bigfatdave

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    And there's your three steps to not having your weapon go "bang" when you put it away.

    I check for holster safety before carrying with a given gun/holster combination, if anything short of a dedicated effort and a tool can get the trigger moving while the gun is in the holster, the combination fails, if anything threatens the trigger while putting the gun in the holster, the combination fails. (modification may solve those problems, in some cases)

    Get quality gear and a belt/holster that keeps the gun-slot where you left it, and understand the passive safety features of your gun, which you should have done with a tool you may use for saving your life already.
     
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    I see this behavior from (almost always new) competitors at matches all the time: They load up, then slam the gun back into the holster. I cringe, I advise them against it, but some keep doing it anyway. In this case I know the adrenaline is flowing since you're about the hear the buzzer, but it bears repeating again; there is no need to rush the holstering. Use a stiff holster, make sure clothing is out of the way, and there is nothing to worry about. I've also developed a habit of stepping my strong side leg inward during the holstering of a hot pistol, just as one last safety measure. I don't do it all the time, but if the position affords, I usually will.
     
  22. Rifleman 173

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    Around where I live, we've had 3 police officers accidentally shoot themselves with XD pistols. One guy had to go out on permanent disability. One guy was unloading his gun to clean it, another guy was holstering his on a range when it went off and I'm not sure about the 3rd guy's shooting incident. The guy going to clean his XD put a bullet through his hand and damaged too many nerves in it to go back to work. The officer on the range badly hurt his leg last year and is still off work from his shooting. I carry a Glock and have carried one for about 20 years or so and have never had any problems with putting it into a holster at all. Just try to be careful when you seat it so that the trigger does not catch on the edge of the holster. But even Glocks have had their share of problems when it comes to NDs and ADs.
     
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  24. rcmodel

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    If you kept pressure on the grip safety. the gun could fire.

    With no pressure on the grip safety, the gun can't fire.

    As noted above, put your thumb on the back of the XD slide when re-holstering and you cannot be squeezing the grip safety down.

    rc
     
  25. harmon rabb

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    With a XD, what's there to worry about? Hold the gun so your right thumb is on the rear of the slide and so the grip safety is not engaged.
     
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