Discussion in 'Handguns: Accessories, Holsters, and Optics' started by Derek.J., Apr 7, 2016.
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once you get some more experience carrying, then you can look at some of the more "exotic" carry methods and holsters.
Appendix carry, unless the handgun is above the waist doesn't work well either. For the pistols you are considering a shoulder holster might be a better choice if sitting is part of the picture, but keep in mind the issues caused by automobile safety belts.
See forum member tmoore912's pictures at post #29 in this thread for ideas. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=567867&highlight=tmoore912
You'll find more options for holsters in the strong side hip area than for AIWB and everybody will be different. For instance, the book answer for a hybrid holster, as mentioned by M-Cameron, would be to wear it closer to 4:00 than 3:00 as he recommends. They have a very large footprint and need a rather large flat spot on the body to work properly. That's usually found aft of the hip. The flexible leather backing will wrap around your hip at 3:00, but the hard kydex won't, and often you will have durability problems with the kydex or difficulty drawing at 3:00. On the other hand, that seems to work for M-Cameron, so you'll have to try it for yourself to see what works for you.
I have used a pagerpal for years both with a 1903 .32 and a Norinco 54-1 (7.62x25) and 213 9mm I use it as a crossdraw mounted in front works fine
I'm 5'10" 170lb and even my wife can't tell when I am carrying
I dont see what the type of gun has to do with it either. I carry a Glock 17 in mine, and feel perfectly comfortable doing so.
I also use a Smart Carry with a Glock 26. Its not really a AIWB holster, but its similar. It rides below the belt, and works very well. Its one of the most versatile holsters I own, and consider them a "must have". While I have used mine with a Glock 19, the smaller guns are definitely more comfortable. Either way, its still the most concealable holster that Ive used, thats actually comfortable and quick to access.
My experience with the Pager Pals wasnt as good as woerm's. I got one when they first came out (we were actually still using pagers then), and proceeded to break it the first time I tried to draw from it.
The various kydex/leather hybrid holsters are popular because they work well. The Crossbreed Supertuck, Comp-Tac MTAC, Galco KingTuk, all have great reviews. I bought the Galco KingTuk because it was cheaper than the others and I wanted to try the style. Figured if I liked it, I'd buy a SuperTuck. A few years later, now, the KingTuk is still serving me very well, and has remarkably little wear.
I carry a G19 at 4 o'clock.
www.usgruntgear.com shows they make them for nearly any curent popular defensive handgun. They run about $50 and take about 4 to 6 weeks but are well worth the wait.
Get ya some.
Put it in the bottom of a closet.
In a year it will be filled with holsters that you've tried and discarded
When holstering a striker fired gun, without a manual safety, there is nothing to let you know if your trigger has caught on anything that may be pulling the trigger until the gun fires. With a hammer fired gun, you can place your thumb on the hammer during holstering. If you feel the hammer coming back, you know something has fouled the trigger and you can stop inserting the gun before the gun fires. With a gun with a manual safety engaged there is also an extra layer of safety.
I'm not telling you that you're wrong. It's your gun and you can do whatever you want. I'm just explaining the thought process for many AIWB carriers.
Milt Sparks is always a safe place to start. Their Summer Special/Summer Special II and Versa Max II (VM II) are industry standards.
Milt Sparks http://www.miltsparks.com
This is a good video from the late Paul Gomez on selecting concealed carry gear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF7VbYh9Qqk
You've got to start with a good belt. Nearly every leather holster maker will make a belt that will match their own holsters perfectly.
If you want something in nylon, the standard is The Wilderness Tactical 5 Stitch Instructor belt, either the regular or Frequent Flyer (on sale right now).
The Wilderness Tactical http://www.thewilderness.com/tactical-belts/
If youre not paying attention, sure it could happen, but then again, it can happen with anything. Most accidents happen due to carelessness and inattention. If youre reasonable in your gun handling, its not near as much of an issue than if your lackadaisical.
One big advantage to AIWB is, you can easily see the holster and the gun go in it, so its really not a big deal. That, and the bazillion presentations done in practice yearly help too.
I've tried an Alien Gear holster and the Nelson in the 4 o'clock position and neither works. The long barrel is obvious behind my back pocket.
I find the appendix position most comfortable and accessible in more positions than the behind the back.
I like most of the DeSantis IWB holsters, especially their SOF-TUCK model. Don't forget to get a good sturdy belt to go along with your new holster.
My most common carry is an M&P Shield at about 4:00 in an AlienGear Cloak Tuck 3.0. I often forget its there it's so comfortable. Easy to draw, and relatively easy to re-holster.
I have a Cloak Tuck 3.0 for my PPK, and Cloak Tuck 2.0 for my Taurus 85 and my 1911. Love them all, but my Shield/3.0 combination gets the most use.
And I've got one on the way for my Glock 19.
I like all those styles of holsters but my favorites are the Bianchi Allusion and SHTF Gen 2 holsters.
I have an AlienGear Cloak Tuck 2.0 for my Glock 19. I love it. Only holster I've ever tried that is actually comfortable, and not expensive. Easily adjustable for various carrying styles. I also like being able to swap shells easily. I've made a shell that fits my CZ-82, and I'll be making another one this week to fit my Ruger American 45. Really easy to swap them out and carry whichever gun I feel like at the moment.
I definitely recommend looking at Alien Gear products if you're looking for a hybrid IWB holster.
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