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Home defense gun for non-shooter

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Justin, Jan 6, 2003.

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  1. Justin

    Justin Moderator Staff Member

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    Someone I know is planning on buying a handgun for home defense. Now, I know that everyone here (yours truly included) loves shooting, and we all go as often as possible.

    But what about someone who wants a defensive handgun, but is only going to go to the range once a month or so?

    Yes, I know the idea of someone with a home defense gun who doesn't expend 300 rounds a week in practice is unthinkable, :what: but what would you recommend?
     
  2. pogo2

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    Revolvers are simpler

    The operation of a revolver seems a lot simpler than a semiauto, and .38 caliber is pretty easy to shoot. I'd recommend a .38/.357 revolver with 4-inch barrel, like the Ruger GP series or a S&W model 66.
     
  3. 10-Ring

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    For home defense? Become more aware of the neighborhood, get to know your neighbors. Have exterior lighting w/ motion sensors so that people approaching will be lit up & seen. A good alarm system helps, and a good dog in the yard helps too.
    Your firearms are just a piece of the puzzle ;)

    For an occassional shooter, I'd recommend either a pump shotgun or a 357 magnum revolver.
     
  4. sm

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    Agree 4" bbl 38/357

    'nuther thought; shotgun.
    know folks with arthritis, or
    those whom handguns might not be best.
    break open single shot, BG keeps coming
    drunk,high,...If sees that big bore and keeps coming
    do what you gotta do.
     
  5. MacPelto

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    Can't go wrong with a 357 or a 12ga. If you're in an apartment, consider birdshot. Also, you'll be well served by a dog, and good lighting.
     
  6. denfoote

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    Mossberg Defender!!!! :)
    00 buckshot!!:) :) :) :)
     
  7. T.Stahl

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    What "emergency car" for someone who doesn't drive?

    What first-aid-kid for someone who will not practise his/her skills?

    What good are tools you don't know how to use properly?

    :confused:
     
  8. JohnK

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    A revolver is a good choice for a gun that's going to sit in a lockbox for long periods of time. Expecting a non shooter to go to the range once a month is very ambitious, they may go a time or two the first month again the second but after that if they're still a "non shooter" it's going to be months between trips to the range.
     
  9. The Plainsman

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    If all they're looking for is a home defense gun, I'd stick with the pump shotgun. To heck with a handgun. The shotgun is easier to operate. It's more forgiving for those who don't aim well. It's certainly got plenty of stopping power. It's much more impressive in terms of staring down a bad guy. It's easier to hang flashlights and other stuff, on it. They can be had for a lot less money. Depending on the person's size and disposition, consider a 20ga pump rather than a 12ga. ;)
     
  10. 4v50 Gary

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    4" S&W Model 10. 38 special - easy to use.
     
  11. Redlg155

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    As stated above, a Medium to large frame .38 seems to be the best choice. Avoid lightweights and ultralights at all cost for the new user. Those are heavier recoiling weapons better suited to more experienced shooters. Some can be downright painful to shoot.

    Your freind may also balk at the prospect of keeping a large shotgun. Most non gun types would also feel very leery about keeping one loaded but would not have a problem keeping a revolver loaded. Shotguns are also slightly complicated for the new user. I've seen folks stuck because they couldn't activate/ find the slide release or had long nails interfere with proper loading of shells.

    If they have children, by all means make sure they purchase a small handgun safe.

    Cheaper ones can be had for $30.00 or so. A small price to pay for security and in some areas, not breaking the law.

    Good Shooting
    RED
     
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    Hammerless Lupara.
     
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    Baikal Coach gun in 12 gauge.

    Keith
     
  14. USGuns

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    KelTec Sub2K

    Affordable, reliable and easier for a novice to shoot accurately IMHO.
     
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    I'll reflect more of the same. If it has to be a handgun, 38/357 revolver. Shotgun would work well too, and may be easier to learn to hit with. Birdshot loads work good close inside a home w/o over penetrating.
     
  16. Justin

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    While he isn't a regular shooter, he is familiar with riflery from his time in the military. He likes to go shooting, and has shot on and off since he was a kid. He just doesn't go all that often, and it's not his idea of a rollicking good pasttime. (For those of you who thought that I was simply asking about myself, :neener:)

    In the times when he's gone shooting with me in the past, he generally shoots wheel guns, which are his preference, but he's leaning towards an auto-loader because of the higher capacity.

    I've considered mentioning that he might be better served with a shotgun.
     
  17. DonGlock26

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    I would go with the .38spl 4" revolver, speed loader, flashlight,and small gun safe. If he wants a pistol then Glock 19 or 17.
     
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    I was going to chime in and agree with the shotgun crowd here ... but after thinking about it I say push them toward a Glock 19 or a CZ75.

    Get 'em a 9mm they will enjoy shooting and can afford to feed and you just might turn them into a regular shooter :)
     
  19. Matthew Courtney

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    Take them out and let them sample all of the suggested items, then let them decide with what they are the most comfortable. Comfort builds confidence. Comfort makes them more likely to practice. Practice builds skill and confidence.

    Chosing a gun is a personal decision. Educate them, but let them make the choice that they may one day live or die by.
     
  20. Kahr carrier

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    357 Revolver.:)
     
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    Hands down a .38/.357 4inch barrel revolver
     
  22. triggertime

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    denfoote: Mossberg Defender? Is that anything like the Winchester 500 series? ;)
     
  23. Unisaw

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    If he will really practice once a month (and dry fire in between), I would recommend a Ruger GP 100 4". If he isn't willing to put in that modest amount of effort to get and stay proficient, I would encourage him to reconsider purchasing a handgun.
     
  24. Ala Dan

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    For a non shooter-

    I recommend a 12 gague pump shotgun, as well. Something
    along the lines of a Mossy 500 or Remington 870 would work
    nicely; as it would protect ones self all the way from the
    out house, to the penthouse!

    But, along the lines of a handgun I would have to give very
    strong consideration's to a Smith & Wesson model 66 and/or
    686 with a 6" barrel. Also, I would recommend lots of range
    time with either weapon!

    Best Wishes,
    Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
     
  25. Double Naught Spy

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    Are y'all sure there isn't a "Home Defense Firearms and Mastery of Shooting Techniques for Dummies" book you could buy a non-shooter to go with the gun you got them? It could be a companion book for the "Hand-to-Hand Combat for the Physically Inept."

    A revolver may be the most easy to use by a non-shooter, but it may also be the hardest with which to hit the target at which they are aiming due to the relatively longer and heavier trigger pull. The follow-up shots are likely to be much worse if the recoil, flash, and sound experienced were not expected by the neophyte shooter.
     
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