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Home defense... pistol or shotgun

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by P95loser, Jul 20, 2005.

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  1. P95loser

    P95loser Member

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    I am relatively new to the gun scene and i am looking for the best choice to use of my three guns for home defense (at the bedside).

    S&W 637 airweight 38 snubby

    Ruger P95 w/ 3 15 round mags

    Remington 12 G pump 7 shot i think (it was my late grandfathers and i really dont want it getting messed up, ive got it in a soft case right now)

    Right now im using the ruger and if i used the shotgun i wouldnt wanna risk putting a light on it as i really dont want to screw it up.


    Also the next gun i get will be for home defense... my p95 will be my duty gun, and my snubby backup gun... so i need a good home defense gun, something relatively small (no 4' long shotguns) i dont know.... you tell me
     
  2. Joey101

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    Personally I would have to say,..........the shotgun hands down!! I sure wish I had a shotty!! :)
     
  3. The Drew

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    Well, You've effectively removed the shotgun as an option...

    You should be able to get a good pump for around $200 or less...
     
  4. P95loser

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    any suggestions on which one... i want a black pump that i can put a SUPER bright light on. i like that mossberg that is called a tactical shotgun i think.


    it has a shorter barrel and a shorter stock than a normal shotgun...
     
  5. TMM

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    for indoor defence use a 20g.

    just as good as a 12g., but less noise, less overpenetration, less recoil.

    my friend said his 12g. left him partially deaf for a few minutes when he forgot to replace his muffs. he was shooting 2 3/4" shells outside out of a long barrel.

    ~TMM
     
  6. Kalashnikov

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    I'm going to take a vry controversial approach. A shotgun, for sure, but a sawwed-off shotgun. Yes, I know it's considered a ClassIII and all if you aren't eligable than dont do it. But if you are, then I think it would be the best of both worlds. Shorter so you could move around easier, lots of power yet the lower velocity SHOULD (I might very well be wrong) lower the worry of overpenetration. Plus there is the slight bonus of being better able to make a snap shot since the wider shot pattern and all. The main downside would be excessive recoil and lower magazine capacity.

    *Puts on flame suit* :uhoh:
     
  7. Elmer

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    The pattern difference between a short barrel and an 18" barrel would be very little across a room.

    The Surfire forend light wouldn't "screw up" the shotgun you have. It easy to put on with no modification to the gun.

    If you buy a new shotgun, be aware many of the accessories will not fit on the 20 gauge models, and the sound difference between the two is nil.

    Personally, I like a revolver for inside the home defense. Much simpler to handle at 3 in the morning. My 870 with a light on it is nearby if I need it.
     
  8. wdlsguy

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    How about an AR-15 carbine with light JHPs?
     
  9. Mossyrock

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    Handgun or shotgun? Both. Remember, a shotgun takes two hands to operate. If you have an handgun in one hand, the other hand can have a flashlight or a phone calling 911. The handgun is easier to manuever in hallways and through doors. Consider the shotgun for a static, "defend the keep" position, i.e. in the bedroom with all familiy members accounted for, waiting for the cavalry to arrive. If you are covering a doorway from cover, it's great. The handgun is used, if necessary, to fight your way back TO the long gun.

    I really have problems with gun-mounted lights, be they on a handgun or shotgun. Remember the safety rule about not pointing a gun at anything you are not willing to destroy? Well, with a gun-mounted light, where the light goes, the muzzle follows. What if that noise in the hallway at 2:00 am is your cat, your spouse or your kid? Something to think about...
     
  10. field70

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    I use a Ruger P-85, but I would like to get a Rem 870 or Win defender. May be my next purchase.
     
  11. LCConrad

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    So I guess I am the first to reply that has gone to a Thunder Ranch class, Classic Clint Smith. "A hand gun is good for only one thing, to fight you back to a real gun." Use the biggest weapon you can control. A short barrel shotgun or carbine would be much better than a handgun, and the 9mm will be much easier to shoot a self defense round through than the air weight. Air weights are great to carry, but not good for much else. There are several inexpensive good quality pump shotguns on the market that come with short barrels. lights can be added to the forearm grip if by nothing else some electrical tape if you can't afford a mount or a fore end with a light built into it.
     
  12. studebaker

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    That's hokum.

    It's quite rare to GET to any longarm in time, actually. If you can do so, it will be mostly by luck. So you can just forget it. CCW the Ruger at home, and don't worry about it. There's a lot to be said for flipping on your home lights, you know. Especially if it will blind-backlight them, and put you in the shadows. You dont necessarily have to BE in the same room that you light up, either. The great majority of offenders don't make you shoot them at all, and the great majority of those shot in the chest with a good 9mm rd DO stop their attack.
     
  13. Rockstar

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    With appropriate deference to Clint Smith, I prefer a pistol for home defense. So far, I've been lucky and haven't had to defend my home. Did answer the door a few nights ago with my pistol in hand; wouldn't have been armed, had I been depending on a shotgun, as I wouldn't have been as likely to carry a shotgun in such circumstances.

    I feel comfortable with my ability to defend myself, anywhere, anytime, with my choice of handguns.
     
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    Here ya go. Super Shorty The best of both worlds. Of course you have to have about $700. :( Anyway, I use a SigP226 with 15 9mm. My shotguns all have 28" barrels on them, making them somewhat unweildy. If I lived in a dangerous area, I'd consider getting an 18" barrel for the Mossberg, but the 9mm is more than I'll likely ever need.
    RT
     
  15. shooter58

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    I also use a handgun for home defense. I use a Ruger P95 with 3-15 rd mags. I did have to defend my home on one occasion, several years ago, and was not dissappointed with the handgun performance. I have a short barrelled shotgun, but it is in the bedroom closet. The P95 stays by the bed.
     
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    If you are going to leave the weapon in a static locatiton, a shotgun is the superior weapon as it improves your chances of hitting anything you need to shoot and strikes a more decisive blow.
     
  17. MikeJ

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    I was very seriously considering a shotgun for home defense and think they are great in that role but decided against it because I knew I wouldn't get the practice with it that I feel would be needed to be proficient. I am very comfortable with handguns and have chosen as my home defense gun a DAO Beretta Centurion in 40S&W. I guess the bottom line to my thinking is use what you are most comfortable with and know you will practice with. If I were in your shoes I would employ the Ruger for home defense.
     
  18. Souris

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    What ever you are comfortable with. You should be able to use the weapon as if it was a part of you. Remember you may be just waking up from a sound sleep. Simple is good.

    The 870 is a good shotgun. A pump makes a wonderfully terrifying noise when worked :evil: I don't have a light on my SG but only cause I don't know how to use it and it would be something to get in my way.
    Shot gun w/ turkey or buck loads should work well.
    You can pick up a used Mossberg 500 pretty cheap and get a 18" barrel for it.

    I also keep my carry gun ( kimber officers model .45) under my pillow at night.

    Disclaimer- YMMMV IMHO etc.
     
  19. GEM

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    Are we talking about someone with little firearms training?

    Then, I say the discussion is premature. Get some reasonable training with the gun you want to use as a primary weapon. Otherwise, each has pros and cons for a person who is familar with them.
     
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    I more often grab a S&W 13 3" or a S&W 65 4" before anything else.
     
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    Next to my bed I have a Mossberg 500A Persuader (20" 7+1 shot) I got new for $200. I put a Streamlight M-3 light on it ($125) with the Streamlight mount ($15). I have it loaded with 1 oz slugs. I use a handgun as a backup.

    I prefer the shotgun for several reasons.

    I can shoot it accurately even without my glasses as I can sight down the barrel or just put the center of the light on the target.
    I can deploy it more quickly than a carbine.
    It shoots a round that's very effective at stopping a target quickly. Very important in such close quarters.
    Much harder to shoot myself with or get taken away from me than a handgun.
    Big, strong, and heavy enough to double as a melee weapon.
    Inexpensive. The gun was less than the cost of a shorter barrel for my Rem 11-87.
     
  22. 1858remington

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    How about a claymore mine.... Its directional.... easy to set off..... and can eliminate that pesky intruder in 2 clicks. :evil:

    Though clean-up would be a bugger. :D
     
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    I have both my p99 and I also have my 12 gauge 1300 winchester loaded w/ T 3" mag. I would like to have one of those double barrel coach guns.. now those are nice. not too short.. but short enough..
     
  24. enfield303

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    Something belt-fed. With a searchlight. :D I have a Rem 870, 18 inch barrel,
    and a Scattergun Technologies +2 mag extension. I have absolutly No problems sleeping.

    Oh yeah, one more thing. BA/UU/R
     
  25. Soap

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    I have both ready.
     
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