Home defense semi auto shotgun

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  1. FAS1

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    Looks like the OP already has an AR and a pump. He was asking for a semi auto 12GA for under $800. ;)
     
  2. kje54

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    I'd personally steer clear of folding stocks on shotguns, never been a good idea in my opinion. If you're concerned about length why not go with a bullpup? I have the SDS BLP M12PT Semi-Automatic Bull Pup Shotgun, 12 Gauge, they're available from around $300 - $400 depending on the retailer.

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    They carry 5+1 and mine has never had a hiccup. Extra mags are available on the SDS Imports site including ten round mags. It has an 18.5" barrel, overall length is 28.5".

    Here's what it looks like from the factory.

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    The chokes are Benelli/Mobile pattern.
    It's Turkish made and there are other Turkish brands that are similar but cost a little more. Just another option to consider.
     
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    Why a semiauto? I would think a pump action would be simpler and more reliable.
     
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  4. Boattale

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    This is a 20 not a 12. I had it modified for my wife. Took 1.5 inches off the stock and had the barrel shortened to 20". It's 100% reliable and she loves it - all the women do. A used 1100 modified to suit you is my recommendation.

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  5. entropy

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    I lived and breathed Big Green for a long time, and I'm still a believer- I have an 1100 Competition and an 870 TB. The gun I traded in towards my 1100 Comp. was an 870 Tactical. But I will say the Beretta 1301 and Benelli M2, M4, and M1014, are the best semiauto Tac/HD shotgun made today. (A Rem. Tac13 with a brace would be hot on their heels, though!)

    In post #1, he mentioned he had an AR and pump. But I agree, it's nice to have an AR as an option. My pump shotgun (Ithaca 37) and 1911 are within arm's reach; the AR requires 2 steps to get to. ;)
     
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  6. Seedy Character

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    Being made in Turkey isn't the problem some of the Turkish made guns are outstanding.

    The key is made to spec and quality control.

    Mossberg or any company buying parts, lists their specs and has their own QC.
     
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  7. ChanceMcCall

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    The reliability issue is usually moot when talking about a tactical shotgun for home defense and there is no chance of short stroking under pressure. The delivery on follow up shots is going to be a whole lot faster as well. Many singles trap shooters use a pump but nobody I've ever encountered uses a pump for skeet or trap doubles.

    Now if you are talking about riding around in a squad car or being used in actual field combat, then the reliability issue is well worth consideration. Those guns are often not cleaned or maintained properly. (I've seen shotguns (including pumps) where the brass in the gun had actually turned green.)
     
  8. Seedy Character

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    Rem 1100 is an EXCELLENT choices
    I love my 4. 12, 16, 20, 20LW

    None of them were $800
     
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  9. entropy

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    Some of us did back in the day. I used an 870 for doubles, and any lost 2nd birds weren't because I couldn't work the action fast enough. But, true, these days O/U's are far more common for doubles.
     
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  10. Seedy Character

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    My buddy, that I have hunted with for 40 years, had 1 shotgun, 870 12 ga 2 3/4".

    When steel shot was forced on us, had chambered reamed for 3".

    Dove, quail, duck, goose, turkey, skeet, trap, sporting clays; he uses that 870 and is very good with it.
     
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  11. Beacon

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    I've got a Mossberg 590 that I carried on duty. It sits in the closet with a full magazine of #00 buck. I put a sling on it, and a 'shorty' stock. It also wears a sidesaddle full of #00 buck loads.

    I recently decided that I wanted a semi-auto HD shotgun, and was considering the Mossberg 930, but after much internet research instead got a Beretta 1301 Tac. I read the Mossberg forum and saw too many complaints about the 930 to suit me. Also on various forums when the 930 vs 1301 question was asked, the 1301 was heavily favored. I wanted the green model but the guy in front of me bought it, so I got FDE instead, not that I really care. Black would have worked, too.
    I have removed the magazine plug that came in it (weird that it was even installed, to my mind) and reversed the safety, as I shoot lefty.
    When I get a chance I'll be putting a NordicComp mag tube extension on it, an Aridus Industries CROM, a Trijicon RMR, and a tac light. I'll do something ref a sidesaddle or EssTac, as well.

    I got my 1301 for $1250, which is substantially above the OP's stated budget. If the 1301 is impossibly out of budget (mebbe put off purchase and save up for it?), then I suggest the OP look at a Stoeger M3000 tactical. The price is in the ballpark the OP outlined.
    Tactical Firearms | Stoeger Industries
    Here is what appears to be an honest review: Gun Review: Stoeger M3000 Freedom Series Defense Shotgun - The Truth About Guns
    It is fairly easy to find other reviews of it online.
    One thing to note: the Stoeger is an inertia semi-auto, not a gas-operated semi-auto. It will probably shoot cleaner, but the recoil will probably be a bit harsher.
     
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  12. Beacon

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    Seedy Character, I've got one of those Remington 1100 20LW shotguns. My father reversed the safety. I bought it with a vent rib 26" improved cyl barrel, intending to use it on dove/quail. As I recall I bought it one year right after Christmas, brand new, for $155. I traded that barrel to my brother in return for a vent rib barrel with a Poly-Choke on it. That shotgun was a dove-killing machine!!! It sits in my closet and will never be sold...ever! I love that gun!
     
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