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Home defense with an AK-47 in FL

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Aikibiker, Mar 10, 2003.

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  1. Aikibiker

    Aikibiker Member

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    I just saw on the news a man stopped a home invader by shooting him once in each kneecap with his (semi-auto) AK-47. Police said he was absolutely in the right.

    The station went on to make a point that owning an AK in this state is not only legal it is constitutionally protected. (State Constitution)

    I'm off to search for a link to this. I will add one to a subsequent posting if I find it.
     
  2. ballistic gelatin

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    Once in each kneecap. That homeowner definately kept his cool. Sweet.
     
  3. Aikibiker

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    Still haven't found a weblink.

    Apparently the home owner shot the bad guy once and he went down. When he got back up the home owner shot him in the other knee. While this was happening the home owner's wife and family were in the apartment with him.

    I don't know if this guy was being nice to the goblin or not. I mean the bad guy is gonna live, but getting kneecapped is gonna put a definite crimp in his prison basketball game.
     
  4. jbutenhoff

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    Wow!

    Talk about a bad day for the low life! First he gets caught, second the guy had an AK, third he keeps his cool and takes out BOTH knees. Dang, that has to suck.

    Now if this was only the UK then the crook could sue since he is no longer able to apply his trade ;)

    Jamie
     
  5. .45Ruger

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    I'm glad using a rifle for home defence worked out in this case but it's definitly not for me. I would either hace grabbed a .45 or a shotgun becvause the danger of over penetration using a rifle is just to great.
     
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    Usually, in situations like that, one doesn't have much time to be picky....
     
  7. Rebeldon

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    I'm waiting to hear about the lawsuit. :rolleyes:
     
  8. Aikibiker

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    Finally found it.

    Here is the link to the story: www.wftv.com/news

    Also to soothe .45Ruger's concerns.

    After viewing the story again on another channel it appears that the home owner had an adequate backstop. A wooded lot was less then 15 feet from the back porch where the shooting appears to have happened. For those not familiar with Florida ecology out wooded lots are scrub land that is so thick as to be impassible without a bulldozer. I wouldn't feel bad about taking the shot.

    Rebeldon, In this state? The bad guy will be lucky not to be sentenced to 25-life under Florida's 10-20-life law. After all someone was injured with a firearm while in the commission of a crime in this case. ^_^
     
  9. Gewehr98

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    Glad I'm not the only one who uses one for that purpose...

    During the Y2K turnover, I set up our Bulgarian SLR-95 with plenty of 30-rounders as my house gun, with my wife using the AR-15. Glad we never had to use them against our fellow Floridians. ;)
     
  10. Blackhawk

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    Love it when perps get a two-legged limp on their way to prison. :D
     
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    Hmmm..I'll probably meet the guy someday. If so I'll be sure and ask him of his version of the story. :D

    Good Shooting
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  12. WonderNine

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    I hope you never have to face heavily armed (or armored) intruders.
     
  13. Justin

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    From the link to the WFTV website:
    Well, you know, that's the trouble with Tribble.

    Dude, I hope you don't live in my neighborhood, because I'd be a tad bit unhappy if the rifle round you used went through my window, wall, and then ended up lodging itself somewhere down the hall.:scrutiny:
     
  14. MitchSchaft

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    LMAO!:neener:
     
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    What a stupid and unlucky bastard...

    First gets caught, then loses BOTH knees, and then is going to go to jail.. I hear they are making great instrides with plastics knees these days... hehehehe..

    I just wish CNN would stop adding the tagline "AK47's, the choice of most terrorists.."
    :barf:
     
  16. Pendragon

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    :neener: T-minus 4 months to Florida! :neener:
     
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    Well shoot! MItch beat me to it. DItto:D
     
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    I saw this on the local news last night. The apartments where he lives is about a mile from my home! It's great to have people who are willing to defend their family and home. I hope he sues the home intruder to pay for pain & suffering of his family and for the replacement of his sliding glass door!!:D
     
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    Shoulda kill't him. The guy'll sue the homeowner, the gun manufacturer, the ammo manufacturer, the gun shop that sold the gun, the cops, and the government before its all over and probably walk away with enough money to not worry about the lack of kneecaps. You've heard of "suicide by cop", well this is "wealth by stupidity."

    GT
     
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    If you are going to use lethal force and suffer the potential legal and civil liability for using lethal force, then using lethal force in a an attempted non-lethal manner (i.e., shooting kneecaps) may be fun, entertaining, and satisfying, but not enough to compensate for the liability.
     
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    hehehehehehe.... :D

    Dead men don't sue or give their side of the story.
     
  22. Pendragon

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    What liability?

    If he sues, he has to front cash or go with a contingency lawyer - and they only like to take a "sure thing" - which this is not.

    He could tell the jury he was afeard for his life, but wanted to be merciful and spare the life of the miscreant...

    People are sick of crime and sympathy for injured criminals is at an all time low.
     
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    Shooting Foils Attempted Home Invasion In Hunter's Creek

    POSTED: 10:31 a.m. EST March 10, 2003
    UPDATED: 4:22 p.m. EST March 10, 2003
    http://www.wftv.com/news/2029476/detail.html

    ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- A man says he was protecting his family when he shot an intruder in the knees.

    The Grand Colonial apartment complex, in Hunter's Creek, is a gated community. However, last night, someone got through it. "I just couldn't believe it the guy saw my gun, and he just came into my house. And I had no choice but to shoot him," said the man who didn't want to be identified. He said that he was just trying to protect himself, his girlfriend and her four-year-old daughter.


    Two men tried to break into his apartment around midnight, on Monday. First, the robbers tried to kick down the main door. When that didn't work, they walked through the patio door and stood on the porch.


    The man could see the two suspected prowlers from his apartment window. That's when he went and got his ak-47, and called 9-1-1. While he was on the phone he could see the man trying to pry open the sliding glass door.

    "I told him, again, to stop. He didn't. He actually flicked me off and smiled."

    That's when he says he had no choice but to shoot. "I couldn't let him get through the door. Then he'd be next to me and my family, and I couldn't let that happen."

    He actually shot the intruder, through the sliding glass door, hitting him in the left knee.

    "I mean, the guy kept moving [and I] couldn't see his hands. [It] took everything in my power not to shoot and kill the guy." So, instead, the man shot the invader in the other knee.

    He said it was at that point when he saw a second would-be intruder flee the scene.

    "Don't think because you live in a nice neighborhood [that] this couldn't happen to you."

    A second man was arrested, but deputies have not announced if he is connected to the crime.

    The intruder who was shot is in the hospital at ORMC. The sheriff deputy's report lists his name as William Carl Tribble.

    Police have the entire 9-1-1 tape recording of the incident. Those tapes cannot release the tapes until they have been reviewed.
     
  24. Chaz

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    Whats the deal with all the home invasions in central Fl? Every time you turn around it's happened again.

    I have numerous options available to "repel boarders" and the AK is one of them.



    Besides, That HAD to hurt!!! :what:
     
  25. Cosmoline

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    The myth of overpenetration

    This goes on and on. I suspect this business was started because of the performance of traditional full-power BALL ammo with FMJ bullets. Good HP or SP bullets from an AK or AR simply aren't prone to overpenetration. Given their sectional density it's unlikely the small bullets from these rounds will be in very good shape once they get out the other side. The .223 in particular basically disintegrates.

    Besides, a plain miss with a handgun by definition "overpenetrates." If I have to defend my life, overpenetration is the last thing I'll be worried about. I want to hit what I aim at and make sure it no longer poses a threat. A semiautomatic rifle or carbine firing an intermediate cartridge is an excellent way to ensure you outgun your foes.
     
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