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Home Depot Allows Concealed Carry

Discussion in 'Legal' started by TarpleyG, Dec 3, 2003.

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  1. TarpleyG

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  3. enfield

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    If it's posted 'no ccw' and you carry anyway and get caught, it's called 'criminal trespass'.

    I'm not a lawyer.
     
  4. enfield

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    Has anyone who contacted HD gotten one of these?

     
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    If "posted" it depends on where you live. In VA they have to ask you to leave first. If you refuse and they call the police it is trespassing with a gun, which is a step up the ladder from trespass. Still not a felony in VA.

    So everyone would have to consult their state's laws on the matter to know what the ramifications were to carrying concealed in a "posted" location.

    I'll see if my HD's are posted. Last I checked they were not and I have carried concealed in them in the past.
     
  6. Matthew Courtney

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    It does not matter what some paper pusher at the home office says if there are store managers out there posting signs valid in their state.
     
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    Never seen HD posted here in Austin Texas...I pack in there all the time without a bit of worry.
     
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    Unless, of course, said paper pusher can require said manager to remove said sign, and fire him/her if they don't...

    As this seems to be the direction it's headed, it matters very much.
     
  9. Matthew Courtney

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    Unless and until the signs come down, it doesn't matter what the paper pusher can do. At this point, HD seems to be talking out of both sides of its mouth. Talk is cheap. Let's watch what they do.

    In most states, and definitely in mine, the sign itself makes carrying past it a crime. The policies of out-of state executives notwithstanding.
     
  10. dandean316

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    Well, I thought we had this all cleared up, but apparently not. Either they are trying to hide something, or Consumer Affairs is out of the loop. What I'm thinking is they don't understand the CCW laws. By banning weapons, they are more concerned with John Doe walking in with a shotgun trying to buy a few screws to mount his scope with. At all the HD's around here, they sell gun safes buy the way.

    Anyway, here's the email I got today from HD.
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    Hello Dan,

    Thank you for your feedback.

    The Home Depot has a long-standing policy prohibiting the possession of
    ALL weapons in its stores. Consistent with that policy, customers are
    prohibited from carrying firearms in our stores. Where required by
    local legislation, The Home Depot will install necessary signage to
    reiterate this policy to all customers.

    Sincerely,

    Jennifer
    Customer Care
    homedepot.com


    Original Message Follows:
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    dandean316@yahoo.com

    "Contact Us" Form Message From: Dan
    Submitted: Fri, Nov 28, 2003 12:09:50 PM
    Email: dandean316@yahoo.com
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    Good morning
    I understand that Minnesota Home Depot stores will now be posting "The
    Home Depot Bans Guns in these premises" signs.

    I am very disappointed if this is indeed true. This will do nothing
    but keep law-abiding citizens out of your stores. Criminals won't abide
    by the signs anyway. A newspaper article recently came out stating the
    true cost for a permit to carry is over $1000. Does Home Depot
    seriously think anyone willing to spend that kind of money is a threat? After
    passing all these background checks, do you really think permit holders
    are a threat? At least you know permit holders are law abiding people.
    What do you know about your other customers?

    And the argument "well and angry customer...in the heat of an
    argument..." Has Wal-Mart, Target or Menards had one of these instances?

    I hope you reconsider your policy. Thank you for your time.
     
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    Well, you've convinced me.

    Let's load up, roll on down there, and start shooting people. There's no sense trying to get anything done through the paper pushers, as long as those damn signs are still in place. :rolleyes:
     
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    I am merely advocating keeping the pressue on until the signs come down.
    I don't exactly trust corporate execs, customer service folks, or PR people to do what they say they are going to do.

    Do you?
     
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    What signs? Show me some.
     
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    I got the same basic email stating that weapons are not allowed.

     
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    I also received the email stating Home Depot officially prohibits concealed carry, as follows:

    The Home Depot has a long-standing policy prohibiting the possession of ALL weapons in its stores. Consistent with that policy, customers are prohibited from carrying firearms in our stores. Where required by local legislation, The Home Depot will install necessary signage to reiterate this policy to all customers.
     
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    Which is it???

    Pax could you please call this guy back and find out what the truth is. If you would like me to email him the email that I recieved from customer affairs I would be happy to do so.
     
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    So let's see some signs. In my state a corporate policy means squat, and I can carry there until they post a very specific sign. I shop there several times a week, and I have seen no signs.

    Personaly, I advocate leaving their poor CSR's the hell alone until I see a flipping sign. If they start putting up signs because this issue is now in someone's RADAR due to all the calls I'll be boycotting knee jerk gun owners.
     
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    Signs

    I think I will go to HD and take a few pics of their signs if I can find them. Stay tuned.
     
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    Folks, often the people at the website who answer Customer Care emails are not actually Home Depot employees. Often they are outsourcers. They don't know what they are talking about.
     
  20. Jammer Six

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    For the most part, yes.

    But then again, I'm president of a construction company, and work every day with corporate executives (subs, other contractors, and customers) who depend on me to do exactly what I say I'm going to do, when I say I'm going to do it, for the price I said I'll do it for.

    I also depend on them to do exactly that, and have eliminated the subs and contractors who don't from my network of resources.

    I'm sure that the fact that the ones who didn't make the cut were largely sole proprieterships is just coincidence. :rolleyes:

    Actually, sole proprietors have very little keeping them honest. Enron will make the front page, and executives answer to their stockholders.

    When was the last time you read a news story about a one man roofing company?

    Yes, corporations make a convenient target for anger, but that's based, in my experience, on a lack of knowledge, and is usually an opinion held by an employee.
     
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    When are we going to get this settled? I have sent them two e-mails and have received nothing but the proxy reply of "thank you for your comment".

    My personal opinion is I don't care who answers the phone, if they say, "Home Depot", they represent Home Depot. If they tell us no weapons, I am going to let management know about it and they can make the heads roll.

    Now I am going to e-mail them again.
     
  22. Dallas239

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    There are no signs at any of the HD's around here, so as far as I am concerned this IS settled until I start seeing signs. In the meantime I think we need to let this fall off the HD RADAR.
     
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    I don't agree. Let them know that any sell out of the Bill of Rights will result in our millions of home repair dollars going somewhere else. If it is a rumor, let them defend themselves and clear their name.
     
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    Why on earth would they "defend themselves" against a rumour?

    The wisest course a business can take is to ignore rumors.

    Making waves where there isn't even any water is rarely a wise course.

    Without signs, the law is the way things are, and we can carry.

    Why on earth would you challenge that? So they can put up signs? :rolleyes:
     
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    **UPDATE**

    Got this from skypod@deadbangguns.com (Melissa).
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