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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by chris101973, Aug 30, 2010.

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  1. chris101973

    chris101973 Member

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    Anybody ever have hornady critical defense 40 cal fail to fire? I ran it thru twice and nothing the primer is dented plenty deep. I have never seen this in factory ammo. Is it more common then I think it is? I was carrying this in my ccw but not anymore.
     
  2. DasFriek

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    Granted i cant afford to shoot tons of "real" SD ammo, Ive never had a failure like that.
    One would hope the quality control would be high enough it should never happen.
    Id definitely look into some Federal HST or Winchester Ranger T-series.
     
  3. Full Metal Jacket

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    it's just as well, this ammo is nothing more than a new marketing gimmick. just another attempt to "reinvent the JHP" again. only thing is, performance is inconsistent.


    get yourself some HST, ranger, or pdx1. ;) pdx1 is the easiest to find, and that's what the FBI uses.
     
  4. chris101973

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    I can't afford to shoot it much of it either, I have not been carrying very long and this was the first box of true sd ammo I had ever bought. I emailed hornady and asked them what they where going to do about this I doubt much but I feel its worth a shot.
     
  5. P30shtr

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    Sorry to hear that man, I run it (critical defense) in my P30(9mm) and my LCP(.380). I have fired multiple boxes through each to make sure it "runs" properly and have liked the results. Therefore its my chosen SD ammo.

    "One would hope the quality control would be high enough it should never happen."-Dasfriek

    They cant test every round that comes outta the factory
     
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    Yes:

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=539191

    I'm a Hornady user with no prior complaints, and I hope that those familiar with my posts would agree that I'm not given to be a basher of any brand.

    I just think this is a pretty big deal when it comes to carry-ammo.

    Les
     
  7. ThePunisher'sArmory

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    Negative, This ammo has a proven guaranteed consistant expantion. Even when the BG is wearing a thick coat or clothing. I have seen this stuff tested too many times from too many different sources to believe it does not work as advertised. Now a failure to fire is very disheartening to hear. Lets hope it was limited to a small batch. I am currently using 147grn TAP 9mm in my nightsatnd gun as I can't find CD in my area. I hope I can find some soon regardless of these failures. A slap, rack, fire takes care of that.
     
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    So what is that ? 50 rounds total , maybe out of, who knows, hundreds of thousands, millions of rounds produced. As I said previously,they cant test fire every round to come out the factory ya know. Do a search on some of the other popular ammo company's and I'm sure you'll be able to find the same type of thing. Unreliable, yadyadayada. Just like certain manufacturers, you'll find the same type of thing. Dig deep enough and someone will always have some **** to talk no matter the qaulity/reliability.

    FMJ- any first hand experience on your part with this ammo ?
     
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    The failure to fire is a very bad problem however the top link the guy that posted the OP found that when shot in a longer barreled gun they expanded like they were suposed to. The pics posted above were out of a snubby 2". He later fired them out of a 4" and they expanded properly. Dont know why they would need a longer barrel to work properly. Maybe it has to do with the extra 2" of rifleing causing it to spin at a quicker rate. Who knows. Untill they work out the glitches i'll still use their TAP ammo. Never had a problem there.
     
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    "The pics posted above were out of a snubby 2". He later fired them out of a 4" and they expanded properly"-Punisher

    Pretty sure it builds higher pressure and sends the bullet faster, therefore expanding the round like it should due to the higher velocity. I'm no ballistics expert but I'm sure someone will be along to clarify
     
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    P30shtr, I think your opinion that FTX is "just great" is something you are justified in sharing. Being so dismissive of others' experiences as somehow necessarily "mis-informed" is not really adding to the discussion of whether-or-not there is a failure-to-fire history with Hornady CD FTX. Am I wrong?

    Les
     
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  13. chris101973

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    I may have told you guys wrong the hollow point did not have the red plug in them. I am at work right now so I can't look at the box but I was sure it said critical defense on the box but maybe not. But regardless of what it was its still hornady. I am not sure how to post pictures on here or I would. I was not wanting to start a war on what was the best to carry I was just wondering how often this happened. Like I said I emailed them and I am looking forward to what they say.
     
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    NEVER said mis-informed or "just-great" at all, just stating my experience with that ammo, Which was nothing but good as I stated. And all I did was ask others if they had experience with that ammo or they just posted crap off the internet that they happened to find without ever even firing a round of the stuff but.. you(wrs840) jumped in before dude had a chance to respond. Oh yeah Ive never had a FTF with this ammo OP, is that better
     
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    " what's the point of your question?" FMJ

    You talk **** about the round/ammo, just wondering if you have any first hand experience with it or your just reciting stuff you found on the internet about it ?
     
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    The thing is I could post something pertaining to Glock sucks or SIG sucks and then a million guys would read it and think its gospel ya know, just wondering what YOUR experiences are with the ammo on topic are ? Or.... you have none
     
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    now that's comprehensible ;)

    if you so boldly dismiss the experiences of others that they have posted on these forums, why are you here? should we dismiss them, and not you?

    of course we don't believe everything we hear online, but if many people are reporting the exact same issues-i tend to take notice. ;)



    stay happy :)
     
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    I'm sorry FMJ, I'll believe everything I read internet/see on TV rather than make my decisions based on my personal experiences (sarcasm) . Yeah I guess its worth taking into account (internet hype) a little bit but... I'm happy, please dont dismiss me:neener:going to bed, we need a snoring smiley, zzzzzzzzz
     
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    Now, now everyone loosen your shincters here. Hornady is a quality company, and this is new ammo. Of cource it will have some probs. Im sure they will work it out with proper testing. Like I said I will be sticking with TAP untill the work out their primer issues. As far as expantion goes I think ill be fine as I'm firing it out of a 3.90" barrel. I still trust in Hornady.
     
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    can anyone provide a link to a test where CD outperformed a modern, premium, conventional hollow point (Gold Dot, HST, etc.) under identical conditions?
     
  23. Just One Shot

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    I made this ame mistake once. Mine was the Hornady - Personal Defense ammo. It is a hollow point but it doesn't have the plug in it.
     
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    I dont shoot ammo with a disclaimer on it.
     
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    Any of the following loads out-perform Hornady Critical Defense ammo:

    .40 S&W:
    Barnes XPB 140 & 155 gr JHP (copper bullet)
    Speer Gold Dot 155 gr JHP
    Federal Tactical 165 gr JHP (LE40T3)
    Winchester Ranger-T 165 gr JHP (RA40TA)
    Winchester Partition Gold 165 gr JHP (RA401P)
    Federal HST 180 gr JHP (P40HST1)
    Federal Tactical 180 gr JHP (LE40T1)
    Remington Golden Saber 180 gr JHP (GS40SWB)
    Speer Gold Dot 180 gr JHP
    Winchester Ranger-T 180 gr JHP (RA40T)
    Winchester 180 gr bonded JHP (RA40B/Q4355/S40SWPDB1)

    I suggest Speer Gold Dot or Federal HST. You can purchase a box of 50 rounds for under $30 at http://www.policehq.com/Ammunition/FEDERAL-AMMO
     
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