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Hornady XTP

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by hk940, Nov 18, 2022.

  1. hk940

    hk940 Member

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    I recently picked up a box of .45 cal 230g Hornady XTP, but can't find load data using older powders.
    The suggested powder is Alliant Power pistol which is not around.
    Are there any other powders, (Bullseye, Unique) that would do the job?
     
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    Unique would be my choice.
     
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  4. hk940

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    Well that thread is 8years old, so no good info there!
     
  5. Cheesemaker

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    I like Unique in 45 ACP. I have also tried W231 and Titegroup - both good too.
     
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    What powders do you have?

    WSF, VV N330 and Longshot are favorites here ... VV also has 340, 350 and 3n37 data
     
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  8. hk940

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    The suggested powder is Aliant Power Pistol but it is nowhere to be found (at a reasonable price).
     
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    I load 230grn SD bullets over Unique, but any powder in that general burn range would work.
     
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    1) Even if you don’t own any manuals - Hodgdon’s free online manual has 32 powders listed for 230grn bullets in 45acp.

    2) An 8yr old thread - in terms of reloading data viability - is not outdated.

    I don’t think you’re painted into a corner here.
     
  12. Walkalong

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    There are many powders that will do what you want very well. What do you have on hand? What does the local place have? How fast do you want to run the XTP? "Full Power" as in 840/50ish?

    And yes, Bullseye and Unique are both excellent for .45 ACP.
     
  13. GeoDudeFlorida

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    Can anybody name a powder faster than Blue Dot that won’t work with the .45ACP and a 230gr bullet?
    That’s just one of the things that makes the .45 the best all-around and most flexible handgun cartridge around.
     
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    Speer even shows a 900 fps load for blue dot and a 230 GDHP.
    Really you're hard pressed to find a powder that won't work in semi auto cartridges.
    Revolver ones sometimes choke accuracy wise.
     
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  15. lordpaxman

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    Just curious where this suggestion is coming from? As others have pointed out, there are a lot of powders that will power the XTP from target to SD loads.
     
  16. hk940

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    There seems to be different burn rate charts out there. On one Bullseye is #16 on one other it's13. Unique is on one is #32 and 45 on another.
    Blue dot is 71 on one and 48 on the other one.
    I have read that the 230g XTP has a larger bearing surface than 230g Ball and might have higher pressure.
    I will just start low and work up.
     
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    Me too, it wouldn't even be in my mind when thinking about what powder, but then for me there is no reason and nothing to be gained by trying to "hot rod" the .45 ACP even a little bit. My "full power" .45 ACP 230 Gr load using N-340 gives an average of right at 850 FPS +/- depending on the weather, is clean and accurate. It's not the holy grail or anything, but it's very good, just like a number of other combinations in .45 ACP.

    I think W-244 was mentioned, or was that the other thread, anyway, 5.3 Grs at 74 degrees 64% humidity gave me an average 828 FPS and shot very well.
     
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    I used to reference burn charts. IMHO, there's a lot of 'generalizing' and very little info otherwise.
     
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  19. rfwobbly

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    "Burn rate" is a VERY inexact art, just one step away from voodoo. It is not a science. It's really only good for relative rankings, "rule of thumb" type guess work and SWAGs.

    Blue Dot is way too slow for 45ACP. You'll be sadly disappointed. W231 (or anything on the chart show above) would be far, far better.

    That all falls out when you do your load workup.

    You mean... follow 'normal procedure'.
     
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  20. GeoDudeFlorida

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    “Burn Rate” charts don’t tell you how much gas is produced by the powder under pressure or how rapidly the gas expands. They’re pretty much useless except to tell you which powders might be in the same general ka-boom range if you get careless with them.
     
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    My SD load with XTP's is 6.5grn Unique... it works well in my 4" 1911's. Mind your COL.
     
  23. hk940

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    Thank you very much, roval
     
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    Yeah I loaded 230gr xtp with unique for like nearly 20 years. Grate choice.
    Load near the max, with over all length as long as possible.
     
  25. AJC1

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    The only burn rate chart that matters is the data set in your book.... the reason I say that is powder acts different in every cartridge. The load data in your book gives you burn rate in that specific case. I've gone way down this rabbit hole and that's really the best there is. You can compare other books with the same case and bullet weight to expand your options. But many manuals don't agree.
     
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