Hot deal on s&w 66 trade-in's
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Quoheleth
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Is $470 high?
Well, in October, I could buy the large jar of Peter Pan peanut butter for $4 and change. Last night I paid almost $7 for the same jar.
It's the dollar, folks. Prices are going up. Just wait....it'll get worse before it gets better.
And, Smith 66s aren't made any more, adding to the mystique. There's just something about K-frames that keep people looking for them and willing to pay for them.
Q
Well, in October, I could buy the large jar of Peter Pan peanut butter for $4 and change. Last night I paid almost $7 for the same jar.
It's the dollar, folks. Prices are going up. Just wait....it'll get worse before it gets better.
And, Smith 66s aren't made any more, adding to the mystique. There's just something about K-frames that keep people looking for them and willing to pay for them.
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That's true. But that's only if you consider a single market. You can still find $4 peanut butter at Dollar General, ALDI, etc. Same logic applies here. You can still find $400 or less 4" 66s if you keep your eye open and "shop" in the right places. Just like families grocery shopping, you just have to learn to buy "smarter".
Think about $20 for shipping from JG and $25 for the FFL transfer fee. Don't know if JG charges sales tax. But that's $45 at least on top of the $470. That's $515 out the door for the 66 from JG. And that's if they only charge $20 to ship, if they don't charge tax, and that's if your local FFL doesn't charge more than $25 for the transfer. That's a lot of ifs.
Consider the $515 for the non-P&R 4" 66 from JG to the 2.5" no-dash 66 that I bought from a guy at the last gun show I went to in December for $500 cash OTD. I guess if you're happy with the price and willing to pay it, then go for it. Who am I to say otherwise? But for me, I will continue to shop "smarter" and pay less for a more valuable gun.
Think about $20 for shipping from JG and $25 for the FFL transfer fee. Don't know if JG charges sales tax. But that's $45 at least on top of the $470. That's $515 out the door for the 66 from JG. And that's if they only charge $20 to ship, if they don't charge tax, and that's if your local FFL doesn't charge more than $25 for the transfer. That's a lot of ifs.
Consider the $515 for the non-P&R 4" 66 from JG to the 2.5" no-dash 66 that I bought from a guy at the last gun show I went to in December for $500 cash OTD. I guess if you're happy with the price and willing to pay it, then go for it. Who am I to say otherwise? But for me, I will continue to shop "smarter" and pay less for a more valuable gun.
JohnBT
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The older I get the less important money is to me compared to time. I have better things to do with the time I have left than go shopping and shopping and shopping and some more shopping. 
I quit smoking 5 years ago - for good this time - and just realized a pack was now $5. Holy smokes.
It truly is the weakening dollar as the man said.
What I need to do is go sell all of those old silver coins my father and I started saving back in the '50s and buy more guns and ammo. There's $2.41 of silver in an old dime. A Washington quarter has $6.04 worth in it. Dang, I'm getting old.
At 50 dimes to the roll with a dealer paying maybe $2.20 per dime, the rolls soon add up. Ten bucks or so for a silver half dollar is even more fun to calculate by the roll. I'm thinking I need another P-210. If I can bring myself to sell the silver dollars too I might buy a couple of SIGs.
I wish I'd saved every dime of my allowance when I was in elementary school.
"I have an old Ruger Service Six I paid $125 less for."
I bought mine new in '85 for a whole lot less and I paid nearly full retail iirc.
I quit smoking 5 years ago - for good this time - and just realized a pack was now $5. Holy smokes.
It truly is the weakening dollar as the man said.
What I need to do is go sell all of those old silver coins my father and I started saving back in the '50s and buy more guns and ammo. There's $2.41 of silver in an old dime. A Washington quarter has $6.04 worth in it. Dang, I'm getting old.
At 50 dimes to the roll with a dealer paying maybe $2.20 per dime, the rolls soon add up. Ten bucks or so for a silver half dollar is even more fun to calculate by the roll. I'm thinking I need another P-210. If I can bring myself to sell the silver dollars too I might buy a couple of SIGs.
I wish I'd saved every dime of my allowance when I was in elementary school.
"I have an old Ruger Service Six I paid $125 less for."
I bought mine new in '85 for a whole lot less and I paid nearly full retail iirc.
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The value of a dollar is worth more to someone who may not have much to begin with. Maybe I'm a tightwad, but I want to make sure I get as much as I can for the money I spend. If that means browsing forum classifieds a few times a day and getting two-days worth of a gun show on a single hand-stamp, then I'm happy to do it if it means I can find the occasional good deal. I've got plenty of time, but limited money. I guess if you have plenty of money and limited time, then the rationale would be different.
dprice3844444
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65's are going for that price on gunbroker also
JohnBT
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" guess if you have plenty of money "
When I bought my house in 1980 I had a conventional 30-year mortgage at 12.75% and made $15000 a year. And the old house hadn't been lived in or heated for 2 years. I was being paid 2x a month and all but 75 cents of one check went to the mortgage. And it didn't include the homeowner's insurance.
That was then. I refinanced twice and paid it off in 1997. The house was built in 1916 and the area is now an official historic district. Big Whoop, the taxes went up and people are putting brass plaques next their front doors.
Pfui. I think I'm going back to the country.
Although I'd hate to give up the little restaurant on the corner. The guy who runs it was born in Sicily and makes pretty good Italian food.
John
When I bought my house in 1980 I had a conventional 30-year mortgage at 12.75% and made $15000 a year. And the old house hadn't been lived in or heated for 2 years. I was being paid 2x a month and all but 75 cents of one check went to the mortgage. And it didn't include the homeowner's insurance.
That was then. I refinanced twice and paid it off in 1997. The house was built in 1916 and the area is now an official historic district. Big Whoop, the taxes went up and people are putting brass plaques next their front doors.
Pfui. I think I'm going back to the country.
Although I'd hate to give up the little restaurant on the corner. The guy who runs it was born in Sicily and makes pretty good Italian food.
John
Concerning price:
J&G Sales know their market, and I'm sure they can sell what they have for what they want. I'll be the first to admit that "what they want," is high. But I keep seeing posts from various members that bemoan the fact that where ever they live, older pre-lock .357 Smith & Wesson's are simply unobtainable.
Anyway, those who are in a position to do so should shop around for a better deal, and without question some are out there, but I don't think they grow on trees. On too many occasions I've waited for a better deal, or for prices to come down, and neither happened.
:banghead:
For a member who ask, I think these have the true K square butt frame, but a phone call to J&G would confirm if this is right.
J&G Sales know their market, and I'm sure they can sell what they have for what they want. I'll be the first to admit that "what they want," is high. But I keep seeing posts from various members that bemoan the fact that where ever they live, older pre-lock .357 Smith & Wesson's are simply unobtainable.
Anyway, those who are in a position to do so should shop around for a better deal, and without question some are out there, but I don't think they grow on trees. On too many occasions I've waited for a better deal, or for prices to come down, and neither happened.
:banghead:For a member who ask, I think these have the true K square butt frame, but a phone call to J&G would confirm if this is right.
evan price
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I can only say that a very very nice 6" M66-2 (not P&R) I would say easy 98% condition sat and sat and sat at a shop near me for $549 and only finally sold when they marked it down to $499 and threw in 2 boxes of ammo. No box or papers or tools, however, but except for the faintest of turn lines it looked unfired.
I've also been seeing more Model 10 police trade revolvers, more recent ones with MIM parts, teardrop cylinder releases, and Hilary Holes, at a couple shops and they were priced around $300-320. That's really a YIKES price imho.
I too believe J&G will have no problem selling these to people who can't get them any other way and yes, they ain't makin' them no more, and comparing it to a modern S&W is comparing apples to pineapples.
I've also been seeing more Model 10 police trade revolvers, more recent ones with MIM parts, teardrop cylinder releases, and Hilary Holes, at a couple shops and they were priced around $300-320. That's really a YIKES price imho.
I too believe J&G will have no problem selling these to people who can't get them any other way and yes, they ain't makin' them no more, and comparing it to a modern S&W is comparing apples to pineapples.
JohnBT
How do I know J&G paid $200.00. I've been in the gun buying and selling business a very long time. They are going to make well over 100% on these weapons. They buy these lot price at auction. There is no way they would pay more for these used guns and shipping and the other cost for the overhead.
And people who would pay the retalil price for guns like these are the reason used gun prices are so high. $300 would be max for a used S&W revolver.
How do I know J&G paid $200.00. I've been in the gun buying and selling business a very long time. They are going to make well over 100% on these weapons. They buy these lot price at auction. There is no way they would pay more for these used guns and shipping and the other cost for the overhead.
And people who would pay the retalil price for guns like these are the reason used gun prices are so high. $300 would be max for a used S&W revolver.
sidheshooter
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Totally off topic, but here is a story I've told before.
At the very height of the Clinton gun ban scare (when hi-cap Glock mags were regularly going for 75 bucks in 90s dollars) I traded a stock G19 with the NY-1 trigger, 3 mags, and 500 rounds of ammo and maybe 50 bucks for...
*three* police trade in 3" round butt model 65s in perfectly good condition; all that were in the case at the time.
One went to my best friend (for a great price) one went to my dad (for the same absurd price) and one is still in an Elmer MacEvoy IWB in my safe as we speak.
I remember one guy saying "in ten years, you're gonna be sorry that you let that Glock go when you can't get one anymore..."
(by the way, it's not like I was any great psychic fortune teller or anything. I just like K-frames... turned out OK in the end)
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JohnBT
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"How do I know J&G paid $200.00. I've been in the gun buying and selling business a very long time."
Okay, you suspect they paid that much, but haven't seen the paperwork. That's fine, I know a bit about retail too. Back in the day the markup on high end furniture was around 150%, but it all depended on the individual deal and the manufacturer.
I wonder if Top Gun Supply bought that little pallet of 30 SIG P/49 surplus Swiss Army pistols (P210-2) for half of the retail price of $2499? I doubt it. Nothing is clear except what I paid and that's fine with me too.
"$300 would be max for a used S&W revolver."
One of these or any S&W revolver? You can't touch some of the Model 17's for $300, much less some of the centerfire guns. I think you're being unrealistic putting a $300 price as the max for a used S&W revolver.
Okay, you suspect they paid that much, but haven't seen the paperwork. That's fine, I know a bit about retail too. Back in the day the markup on high end furniture was around 150%, but it all depended on the individual deal and the manufacturer.
I wonder if Top Gun Supply bought that little pallet of 30 SIG P/49 surplus Swiss Army pistols (P210-2) for half of the retail price of $2499? I doubt it. Nothing is clear except what I paid and that's fine with me too.
"$300 would be max for a used S&W revolver."
One of these or any S&W revolver? You can't touch some of the Model 17's for $300, much less some of the centerfire guns. I think you're being unrealistic putting a $300 price as the max for a used S&W revolver.
JohnBT
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www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=253438
According to this thread, the low-end prices already mentioned on right on the money - in 2007.
According to this thread, the low-end prices already mentioned on right on the money - in 2007.
Thanks Old Fuff
I’m a big Ruger fan, but the 66 has a soft spot with me. I sold mine, when I shouldn’t have, and regret it over and over. You will not find a current S&W 357 that comes even close to the quality and price.
I’d say that’s a good price if the condition is good. Dang, I wish I had the money:banghead:. I wonder how much I would get for my first born.
I’m a big Ruger fan, but the 66 has a soft spot with me. I sold mine, when I shouldn’t have, and regret it over and over. You will not find a current S&W 357 that comes even close to the quality and price.
I’d say that’s a good price if the condition is good. Dang, I wish I had the money:banghead:. I wonder how much I would get for my first born.
MCgunner
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I'm used to exorbitant used prices on Smiths down here. That's why I only own one, the one I inherited. Nice guns, but a SP101 will take hot loads all day and all night and won't pull my pants down. I wouldn't use THAT for a pin gun, either. I think a 625 makes the best revolver class pin gun, or at least it's better than any .357. JMHO
jad0110
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AZ,
Can you please tell us where these $300 S&Ws are? Arizona (just guessing by your name)? I'd like to plan a trip to where ever this is, and bring a buttload of cash with me
. Because in the rest of the country, the only used S&W you can have any hope of finding for $300 or less are well worn Model 10s, 64s and sometimes Model 15s and 67s. And those are darn close to $300 these days. Everything else starts at $400 and goes up from there, at least in my parts. And that's after haggling.J&G's price, for my area, is a bit high, but not out of line. I'll pass though. 4" 66s are usually $450 here. When they turn up.
Back to $300 S&Ws, heck, I can't even find a used Taurus 66 for $300. Last Taurus 66 I saw was a 6" blued example for ... $575!
You're a lucky guy, because in most of the country the days of the $200 Model 10 , $275 Model 66 and $350 38/44 HD are long gone.
evan price
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Olympus: Yeah, that's on FalFiles.
I have exact same gun (66-no dash, first issue with stainless sights) I bought 2 years ago for $379 from the LGS, and it still has the factory checkered walnut target grips.
At the time I posted a question on this very forum asking "Is $400 a ridiculous price for a No-dash M66???"
I have exact same gun (66-no dash, first issue with stainless sights) I bought 2 years ago for $379 from the LGS, and it still has the factory checkered walnut target grips.
At the time I posted a question on this very forum asking "Is $400 a ridiculous price for a No-dash M66???"
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I bought five SW 686 4" PD trades in like/similar condition for $330 each just last year. I've never paid more than $400 for a PD Smith, nor would I.
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