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How about a Million Gun March?

Discussion in 'Activism Discussion and Planning' started by ToadPS, Nov 22, 2008.

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  1. Prion

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    I agree with the NRA. Too risky, the media could take whatever slant on it they wanted and make us look like whackos. And what if a bunch of fringe groups like the KKK decided to use it further their cause? Then we would all be lumped together and it would hurt our cause. People are looking for any reason to pigeonhole us as nuts and one idiot could give them the incident they need. Let's face it, not all gunowners are the kinds of people we want representing us and an event like this would surely bring out those attentioning starved nuts who would pull some crap to get on the news. And the anti's could use an event like this to their advantage by creating a fake group of "gun-nuts" that do interviews and make false statements. A few guys dressed up in full camo with grim painted skull faces looking like a death squad on the evening news would scare enough Americans to devastate our cause. It would just be too easy to manipulate an event like this to further the anti's cause.
     
  2. Sig 226 .40

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    Just to make more of an impression...each marcher holding a sign with their profession on it. Doctors, lawyers, carpenters, plumbers, nurses, secretary...might make an impression of just who is a gun owner.
    I work for a judge who is a staunch Democrat. She is one example of not judging(no pun intended) a book by the cover. She is a gun owner and used to shoot for her college years ago. AND she backs gun ownership fully!
    To display the diversity of gun owner backgrounds would be astounding to see!! Just a thought though.
     
  3. jerkface11

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    How can one back gun ownership fully and be a staunch democrat? Isn't gun control on their party platform?
     
  4. Sig 226 .40

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    Well, I know the Judge keeps a nice .38 handy...is a hell of a shot and enjoys shooting. She is not an Obama heavy leaner though. I told her once that she'd make a great Republican though! She laughed over that! Her Democrat ideologies are of the old school Democrats where they once fought for the peoples rights in a distant past.
     
  5. The_Bullzeye_Guy

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    love the idea..

    My parents both have their FL carry permits. I will be 20 this Oct and can't wait until my 21st so I can get mine too..I feel that one should be able to carry in all states...there'd be much less crime....

    I would be up for marching/walking...I think that you have to sell this idea to the younger folks..get them involved...

    and there are almsot 90 million gun owners in this country...if 1 million people showed up to hear Mr. Luther King's speech, we can get 1 million people or more to show up to this...even if its just people from the east coast..and the semi mid west..like Ohio..or places like that...People from FL love their guns, so we can expect some from there too..
     
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    +1 here!
     
  8. notorious

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    The logistics would dictate that this be at least 1 year out at minimum.

    Also, how would you ensure QC and prevent infiltration by those who will purposely make us look bad. You don't think the Democrats logged on Republican sites and said they are disillusioned Republicans who turned and planted all sorts of defeatist rhetoric in this last election? That's why John McCain had to keep saying don't give up on me and get out and vote. The insidious nature of some of the fringe groups pushing their agenda by any means necessary really astounds me.

    Also, forget about getting any useful info on change.gov. That site, as befits the name, changes daily. Anytime something stupid on it gets called out, it gets taken down and rewritten and all of a sudden, the old stuff is covered up like it never existed. Reminds me of 1984 when Big Brother tells you what is and what was and it can change at anytime.

    Have the NRA coordinate with GOA and each State's official club and their regional intrastate affiliates. Then filter it down to the local clubs and shooting groups.

    An alternative would be to have separate marches at each State's capitol, but all on the same day, which makes it easier for the working American gunowner to participate and can still generate the same publicity or more since it not only shows the nation but also each state legislature individually, instead of them just seeing a big mass at DC without knowing how many are from their own state.

    Lord knows the CA legislature needs a wake up call and a ride back to reality.
     
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    The sad thing is I don't think anything will ever happen, I hope people prove me wrong but I believe that most are too lazy. Too many people keep coming up with excuses about why they cannot or should not do anything at all which is exactly the kind of response that some at Big Brother are expecting. Every idea I have seen thusfar has been flushed down the toilet for some reason or another be it excuses, not enough participation, lack of funds, lack of support, whatever. I have read over some good ideas and yet everyone of them has been shot down, well as far as I can tell. Everybody I talk to just says support the NRA, give them money and write them, etc. How many of you already do that? How many of you have seen a decent response from them? Has the NRA really done anything much for you lately? I haven't seen much from them but maybe I am missing something. My point here is that people need to quit making up excuses and just act otherwise it it going to be too late. I personally believe that it is going to take something huge to get people to change their ways and from what I have been reading and have heard the support isn't there to orchestrate anything large enough to get anyone to listen.

    The funny thing is that this brings me to another point even if they let us keep our guns I don't see it benefiting us much. The reason I say this is because the whole 2nd amendment was set-up so that a militia could be armed and ready if the need ever arose. Well, theoretically say something happened 5 years from now in which the need for a militia came to fruition, as far as I can see it would not be a very effective militia. A good militia needs to be organized and orchestrated well and we cannot even seem to rally enough people to make an effective enough movement to save out rights to bear arms. Call me crazy but if we cannot organize that then what makes any of us think that organizing a decent militia is possible if it were needed? You could say that it would be possible at that time because it was under more pressing circumstances. However, IMO these are just as pressing circumstances, maybe a different sort of circumstances, but just as important since technically organizing a campaign to save the 2nd amendment could be considered a militia in itself.
     
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    Would this be a good time and place for an empty-holster march?
     
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    Haha... yeah, the Open Carry movement in California has been debating that forever and talking about an Open Carry march... imagine that.

    In CA, you can open carry on a belt holster as long as the gun is UNLOADED and you can have your mags loaded on an off-side holster and still be legal, and some have started doing it that way around town.

    I don't fault them for doing it but pulling that off would entail logistics on a scale that the military couldn't pull off because any little mistake can cost lives there, not to mention just looking so bad that it ends up hurting the cause more than anything else.
     
  13. Lonest@r

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    At least some guy is trying.....

    http://2ndamendmentmarch2009.lefora.com/forum/

    ANd for the NRA...

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=405947

    I can't understand why a multi-million dollar organization cannot effectively organize it's members for the cause in which they represent, other than "give us more money and we''l take care of it". Meanwhile, others can organize nationwide protests online using email, MySpace and other FREE tools, such as those protest for PROP 8 and immigration, effectively working together for common cause.
     
  14. SilentStalker

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    ^^^Awesome, now we all need to join and contribute to the cause.
     
  15. Geno

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    I was fine with the NRA's letter right up to the point where the tucked-tail and ran from the media.
     
  16. notorious

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    I still back the NRA because they are the biggest and they are a force to be reckoned with in politics. Of course they got the other side using them as a sounding board and as the boogie man but that's the arena they are fighting in.
     
  17. MikePGS

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    I definitely don't think an armed march would be a good idea, unarmed would be brilliant though. As for the NRA, if they had their way D.C. vs Heller would never have happened.
     
  18. notorious

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    My concern even with an unarmed march is QC. How do we make sure we don't have infiltrators from the other side who will make a scene and a disturbance so it will color all of us poorly?

    Don't think the radical antis have not resorted to those tactics before where they pretend to be one of us only to spread defeatist rhetoric and convince others to see the light and convert because they too, saw the error of their ways.

    All they have to do is have a few of their people act up and throw a few bottles at the cops or run to the camera and make stupid comments about how they want to have machine guns and kill any government agent that tries to take their guns and you know how much media coverage that will get versus the intelligent doctor or businessman who's in the rally and just wants to show America how normal people are gunowners too.
     
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    The Million Mom March got big headlines and people still remember that crap today. Why don't pro-gun supporters organize then descend on Washington DC en mass by the millions? On foot or in cars we would tie up traffic and stand shoulder to shoulder in a highly visible and symbolic way. It would be nice if we could all go armed but that probably wouldn't be a good idea. But we could all wear an empty holster on our hip. It would generate a lot of news coverage and might give the anti-gun crowd a taste of what they can expect if they insist on poking a sleeping giant with their pointy little sticks.
     
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    I think the powers that be would take any such demonstration as a direct threat Baad Ju-Ju
     
  21. jal5

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    Definitely not carrying, even empty holsters would be seen as threatening. But the idea of a march for the 2nd Amendment is not a bad one, and would generate a lot of coverage. Maybe the NRA or other groups would get behind this idea and promote it, would give a lot of press time to explain why we stand up for our rights.

    Joe
     
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    good idea i think.... could be a million rifleman march..... sometimes i wonder if these idiots in dc realize how many there are of us who still believe in constitutional rights...................... it's really too bad the media so biased against us ......... i i'd like see them if the 1st amendment was constantly under attack........

    LIFE IS SHORT.....
     
  23. ToadPS

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    NRA isn't interested. I contacted them about this at the end of November.

     
  24. Blakenzy

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    That NRA representative is full of it. Way too negative and dismissive. Any press is good press, unless it involves a shooting at the rally of course...

    But the again, maybe he is right about us gun owners being too apathetic to move our butts and get something done.
     
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    I'll go.
    I friggen hate D.C. with passion but I would do it.
     
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