TheeBadOne
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I love my Kahr MK9 and it is the envy of many of my friends. It shares a place in my heart along with my Glock 27 and Coonan .357. Good company.
How are the KAHRs
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Badone
I owned a Coonan 17 years ago, and regretted selling it. The Coonan set a very high standard of workmanship, fit and finish that I have yet to see since.
Kahr is honoring their warranty and sending a new gun to the dealer to replace the PM9 lemon shooter.
I will deal no longer with Kahr and am staying with the Glock 26.
I owned a Coonan 17 years ago, and regretted selling it. The Coonan set a very high standard of workmanship, fit and finish that I have yet to see since.
Kahr is honoring their warranty and sending a new gun to the dealer to replace the PM9 lemon shooter.
I will deal no longer with Kahr and am staying with the Glock 26.
concerned citizen
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The 26 is a nice piece, although its almost twice the size of the pm-9.
Hopefully you got a good frame...
only kidding, but they certanly have had there share of issues also....
Hopefully you got a good frame...
only kidding, but they certanly have had there share of issues also....
denfoote
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I can endorse the MK9 Elite highly!! This is my "mousegun"!!!!
Gordon Fink
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I have experience with two Kahr Arms pistols.
I bought a new K9 Elite 98 that came out of the box with a cracked frame (under the grip panels). I returned it to Kahr for a replacement, which has functioned flawlessly.
My wife bought a used but upgraded MK9. It has functioned flawlessly.
~G. Fink
I bought a new K9 Elite 98 that came out of the box with a cracked frame (under the grip panels). I returned it to Kahr for a replacement, which has functioned flawlessly.
My wife bought a used but upgraded MK9. It has functioned flawlessly.
~G. Fink
concerned citizen
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gau5gunner...cool.
I was really just joking
The 26 is a nice piece, I only wish it was the size of the kahr pm/mk series.
Its a shame about your pm9, mine has been perfect and i love it.
Good luck with your 26 it should serve you well.
I was really just joking
The 26 is a nice piece, I only wish it was the size of the kahr pm/mk series.
Its a shame about your pm9, mine has been perfect and i love it.
Good luck with your 26 it should serve you well.
Sam C
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luv my kahr
I own a Kahr, k9 Elite. I really like this little gun. It is easy to tuck away in my IWH, loves +P's and always goes bang when I squeeze the trigger. It may not be as potent as my 45's, but due to it's small size, it is with me almost always. Rember, the best gun is the one you have with you when you really need it. Sam
I own a Kahr, k9 Elite. I really like this little gun. It is easy to tuck away in my IWH, loves +P's and always goes bang when I squeeze the trigger. It may not be as potent as my 45's, but due to it's small size, it is with me almost always. Rember, the best gun is the one you have with you when you really need it. Sam
Sven
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Sounds to me mostly like folks like their Kahrs. Might be joining the club, to find out for myself. PM9, baby.
fastbolt
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Well, Kahr has certainly had its fair share of growing pains, but the steel framed models seem to be favorably mentioned more often than not ...
Of the Kahrs I've shot ... but not owned ... I liked the K40 which belongs to one of the other guys. It balances well, shoots acceptably accurately for its purpose, and has a decent trigger for a DAO pistol. A bit heavy, though ...
I shot one of the new PM9's when one of the other staff brought his new one to the qualification range. Very slim & compact little pistol. Neither the owner or I were unduly impressed with its accuracy, or its recoil recovery and controllability in rapid fire defensive shooting. I could easily shoot a 2" group off hand at 12 yards with the K40 the first time I picked it up, but not so with the PM9 ...
Since the role of this little pistol appears primarily intended for pocket carry-type defensive use, I can only compare it to my 642-1 which fills that role for me. The PM9 weighs a couple or so ounces more, but holds 3 more rounds ... It's slimmer through the slide than the 642's dimension through the cylinder, but I can shoot the 642 more quickly & accurately. So, as a matter of fact, can the fellow who bought the PM9. I've watched him shoot his little J-frame very quickly & accurately over the years, unlike his first experience with his PM9 ...
I'd consider adding a newer production K40 to my safe sometime, if I came across an attractive deal, as it's a nice example of the recent developments in compact DAO pistols chambered for the .40 S&W, and it's a fun compact pistol to shoot. As long as the recoil springs are replaced on some reasonable basis, the one my friend owns has seemed to withstand frequent use without noticeable wear or problems. Then again, he's an avid shooter who shoots a LOT, so I'll probably get a chance to continue monitoring the performance and durability of his K40 ... and borrow it, from time to time.
The other instructor with the new PM9 wasn't as satisfied with the performance of the little 9mm, so I wouldn't be surprised if he eventually switches back to either his J-frame or HK 9mm USP Compact, both of which he's very skilled and comfortable with when shooting ... Sometimes I suspect he forgets he's no longer shooting his sniper rifle when he's shooting on the pistol courses.
Of the Kahrs I've shot ... but not owned ... I liked the K40 which belongs to one of the other guys. It balances well, shoots acceptably accurately for its purpose, and has a decent trigger for a DAO pistol. A bit heavy, though ...
I shot one of the new PM9's when one of the other staff brought his new one to the qualification range. Very slim & compact little pistol. Neither the owner or I were unduly impressed with its accuracy, or its recoil recovery and controllability in rapid fire defensive shooting. I could easily shoot a 2" group off hand at 12 yards with the K40 the first time I picked it up, but not so with the PM9 ...
Since the role of this little pistol appears primarily intended for pocket carry-type defensive use, I can only compare it to my 642-1 which fills that role for me. The PM9 weighs a couple or so ounces more, but holds 3 more rounds ... It's slimmer through the slide than the 642's dimension through the cylinder, but I can shoot the 642 more quickly & accurately. So, as a matter of fact, can the fellow who bought the PM9. I've watched him shoot his little J-frame very quickly & accurately over the years, unlike his first experience with his PM9 ...
I'd consider adding a newer production K40 to my safe sometime, if I came across an attractive deal, as it's a nice example of the recent developments in compact DAO pistols chambered for the .40 S&W, and it's a fun compact pistol to shoot. As long as the recoil springs are replaced on some reasonable basis, the one my friend owns has seemed to withstand frequent use without noticeable wear or problems. Then again, he's an avid shooter who shoots a LOT, so I'll probably get a chance to continue monitoring the performance and durability of his K40 ... and borrow it, from time to time.
The other instructor with the new PM9 wasn't as satisfied with the performance of the little 9mm, so I wouldn't be surprised if he eventually switches back to either his J-frame or HK 9mm USP Compact, both of which he's very skilled and comfortable with when shooting ... Sometimes I suspect he forgets he's no longer shooting his sniper rifle when he's shooting on the pistol courses.
Detritus
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WOW, first time i've read a thread asking about Kahr that went on for more than a page without someone saying "i refuse to buy fromt eh moonies!!"
of course that's mitgated by the fact that i don't read many threads on Kahr after getting tired of seeing the above phrase on other boards.
still cool
of course that's mitgated by the fact that i don't read many threads on Kahr after getting tired of seeing the above phrase on other boards.
still cool
Zundfolge
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I love my little MK40. However I've got an itch for an AR15 I can't scratch so I'm selling mine.
This thread almost has me second guessing my decision to sell.
[pimp mode]here's mine --> http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28175 [/pimp mode]
This thread almost has me second guessing my decision to sell.
[pimp mode]here's mine --> http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28175 [/pimp mode]
NJ3
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I've noticed something else on my PM9 that has me concerned. I'll post a picture, even though the photo didn't come out too good. Look at the areas the blue arrows are pointing to. Should I call Kahr?
are those cracks? I am not familiar with the inside of a kahr, but from the picture, they look like the beginning of cracks.NJ3
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They look like cracks, but I'm not sure even when looking at them under a magnifying glass. I wonder if other PM9's have similar marks.
Voluntary partial S/N & Purchase Date?
Hi All,
Would there be any benefit in PM9 owners volunteering the above info so that interested parties in this forum can track problems (or lack of them) with PM9s? It's possible that a discernible "pattern" with the PM9's problems could emerge and we may be able to see if there's a certain S/N range to avoid or to look for.
Furthermore, with a large enough sample, it's possible it may yield some interesting observations over time regarding Kahr's correction of certain documented and specific problems. There could be a production "learning curve" of sorts which Kahr needs to go through with its polymer line. Just a thought
Regards,
John
Hi All,
Would there be any benefit in PM9 owners volunteering the above info so that interested parties in this forum can track problems (or lack of them) with PM9s? It's possible that a discernible "pattern" with the PM9's problems could emerge and we may be able to see if there's a certain S/N range to avoid or to look for.
Furthermore, with a large enough sample, it's possible it may yield some interesting observations over time regarding Kahr's correction of certain documented and specific problems. There could be a production "learning curve" of sorts which Kahr needs to go through with its polymer line. Just a thought
Regards,
John
I've got just over 600 rounds through my PM9, and I love it.
(Fastbolt,
Don't give up on the PM9.
I've never found a light 2" snub that I could shoot accurately, but then I have never spent much time shooting them either. Since many people say they can be accurate with these guns, I'm assuming the problem is with me, and that increased practice would improve my accuracy.
I suspect that time spent shooting the PM9 will show increased accuracy.
Besides, since you are LE, I'm guessing you have a lot of experience with snub guns. I've always liked them myself. I grew up on old moves, watching awesome shots being made by coppers, shooting from the hip. )
I don't know the serial number range of my gun, I'll have to check, and I'll look for similar marks.
I don't think they are cracks. I think they are a "raised" area, caused by the steel inserts underneath the polymer.
I expect a gun in this price range to be relatively free of defects, and my gun is. I don't get excited about a small mark in the polymer, as long as it doesn't get worse, or affect the reliability of the gun.
I've had several Glocks, and if I had tried, I could have found a small imperfection in each one.
The more I shoot and carry my PM9, the more I like it.
(Fastbolt,
Don't give up on the PM9.
I've never found a light 2" snub that I could shoot accurately, but then I have never spent much time shooting them either. Since many people say they can be accurate with these guns, I'm assuming the problem is with me, and that increased practice would improve my accuracy.
I suspect that time spent shooting the PM9 will show increased accuracy.
Besides, since you are LE, I'm guessing you have a lot of experience with snub guns. I've always liked them myself. I grew up on old moves, watching awesome shots being made by coppers, shooting from the hip.
)I don't know the serial number range of my gun, I'll have to check, and I'll look for similar marks.
I don't think they are cracks. I think they are a "raised" area, caused by the steel inserts underneath the polymer.
I expect a gun in this price range to be relatively free of defects, and my gun is. I don't get excited about a small mark in the polymer, as long as it doesn't get worse, or affect the reliability of the gun.
I've had several Glocks, and if I had tried, I could have found a small imperfection in each one.
The more I shoot and carry my PM9, the more I like it.
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