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HOW BUSH "WON" 2004

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Boogyman, Jan 16, 2006.

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  1. Boogyman

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    You won't find this in the "liberal-controlled" media...

    1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold
    and ES&S.
    http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold

    2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of
    the U.S. voting machine industry.
    http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0916-04.htm
    http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

    3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.
    http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/private_company.html
    http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

    4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and
    donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver
    its electoral votes to the president next year."
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml
    http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1647886

    5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became
    Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.
    http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004/03/03_200.html
    http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/031004Fitrakis/031004fitrakis.html

    6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family,
    was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics
    Committee.
    http://www.hillnews.com/news/012903/hagel.aspx
    http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000896.php

    7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's
    vice-presidential candidates.
    http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.htm
    http://theindependent.com/stories/052700/new_hagel27.html

    8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts
    almost 60% of all U.S. votes.
    http://www.essvote.com/HTML/about/about.html
    http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

    9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any
    votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out
    of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.
    http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
    http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2987/041020evotestates/pfindex.html

    10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all
    of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.
    http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
    http://www.diebold.com/solutions/default.htm

    11. Diebold is based in Ohio .
    http://www.diebold.com/aboutus/ataglance/default.htm

    12. Diebold employed 5 convicted felons as consultants and developers to
    help write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the
    votes in 30 states.
    http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,61640,00.html
    http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/301469.shtml

    13. Jeff Dean was Senior Vice-President of Global Election Systems when
    it was bought by Diebold. Even though he had been convicted of 23 counts
    of felony theft in the first degree, Jeff Dean was retained as a consultant
    by Diebold and was largely responsible for programming the optical scanning
    software now used in most of the United States.
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0312/S00191.htm
    http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how
    http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf

    14. Diebold consultant Jeff Dean was convicted of planting back doors in
    his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade
    detection over a period of 2 years.
    http://www.chuckherrin.com/hackthevote.htm
    http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf

    15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the
    polls in Ohio.
    http://www.globalexchange.org/update/press/2638.html
    http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/10/26/loc_elexoh.html

    16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security
    was so bad.
    http://blackboxvoting.org
    http://wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,63298,00.html
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4874190

    17. 30% of all U.S. votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen
    voting machines with no paper trail.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml

    18. All -- not some -- but all the voting machine errors detected and
    reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates.
    http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,65757,00.html
    http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOu
    t.htm
    http://www.rise4news.net/extravotes.html
    http://www.ilcaonline.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=
    950
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00227.htm

    19. The governor of the state of Florida, Jeb Bush, is the President's
    brother.
    http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/local/7628725.htm
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10544-2004Oct29.html

    20. Serious voting anomalies in Florida -- again always favoring Bush --
    have been mathematically demonstrated and experts are recommending
    further investigation.
    http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOu
    t.htm
    http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/policy/story/0,1080
    1,97614,00.html
    http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/tens_of_thousands.html
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm
    http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/110904.html
    http://uscountvotes.org/


    DECEMBER 2004 GALLUP POLLS
    1 in 5 Americans believe the elections were fraudulent. That's over 41
    Million Americans.
     
  2. CAnnoneer

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    I believe both elections were technically questionable, and would not be surprised at all if the results were altered significantly, but I must also say that this thread is not really gun related.
     
  3. beerslurpy

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    It is much simpler. Bush won because they put gay marriage on the ballot in every state that was even partly close. This mobilized the christian evangelical vote.

    The various conspiracy theories are unnecessary.
     
  4. fallingblock

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    HOW BUSH "WON" 2004?

    Haven't y'all figured it out yet?

    Just a few more live Republicans voted than did dead Democrats.:D

    And a good thing for gun owners, too.;)
     
  5. gc70

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    My theory about the 2004 election

    The Democrats spent so much negative energy complaining about the 2000 election that they didn't develop any positive energy for the 2004 election.

    Looks like it is happening again...
     
  6. gc70

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    My theory about the 2004 election

    [duplicate]
     
  7. solareclipse

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    before this gets locked.. i've no doubt he won the 2nd one. the first one however was given to him. can't change the past so why bother.
     
  8. Johnnybgood

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    I have tried very hard not to do it

    but I guess the time has come. *Looking around for some tinfoil* It's time I joined the tinfoil hat brigade.:D
     
  9. longeyes

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    Okay, okay, it's the Diebold magic votes versus the phoney illegal alien votes. This is a dirty war. Deal with it.
     
  10. EghtySx

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    I remember a time when the loser of an election shook hands with the winner and made a speech about how we should all get behind him. Then everyone worked together to get things done for the good of the people. And I'm not that old.

    What we have now seems almost like a natural byproduct of a party system that has far outlived it's usefulness (if it ever had any). Maybe one day we can get rid of parties and then We The People can just vote for whichever candidate is best, and none of them will have any obligation to anyone but their constituents.
     
  11. rock jock

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    Hey, Boogeyman, here's some advice: Bush won, your boy Scary John ("I lied about my war record") Kerry lost. Now, go have a glass of warm milk and a good cry.
     
  12. Rem700SD

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    hmm...so this means that the dems only have to buy controlling interest in these companies to win? Hope Feinstein & Company don't find out about this....
     
  13. Boogyman

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    New thread... BUSH/KERRY WAR RECORDS check it out while I'm having my milk and a good laugh. :neener:
     
  14. Rexrider

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    Haven't you heard.......




    ........It's Bush's fault





    :D
     
  15. cracked butt

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    With 50some million votes for Kerry, that would mean about 80% of democrats are whiners.:neener:
     
  16. Boogyman

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    Must you?
    Your the one aways bringing up Bush in other topics, proclaiming him to be the greatest thing for RTKBA in 100 years.
    Now's your chance to do it in a thread that's appropriate.
    I'd say that was gun related... :neener:
     
  17. Phyphor

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    OH FOR GOD'S SAKE

    Can we please sh*tcan these stupid "BUSH STOLE THE ELECTION / KERRY IS A LIAR AND A FATMOUTH" type threads???

    FFS, folks, the elections are OVER. We're stuck with Bush until his term ends, or he gets impeached (unlikely, )

    These stupid threads just tend to degenerate (not that they have far to go) into mindless name-calling and accusations of being zealots for a particular party. NONE of this crap is remotely related to the purpose of THR, and in fact, stinks the place up like a week old dirty jock strap.
     
  18. Joejojoba111

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    Whole thing seems unreal, the 2 main parties spend so much energy fighting each other, to get elected and take orders from the same people. I just wonder whether screwing the people is their primary goal or just incidental.

    But that's definately a nice opening thread post, nominee for best documented argument?
     
  19. Devonai

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    Ooo! Ooo! I wanna see Boogeyman discuss this with Jim March! I'd subscribe for that on Pay-Per-View!
     
  20. Marko Kloos

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    Agreed.
     
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