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How does that Silencer help your shooting

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by horsemen61, Aug 2, 2022.

  1. horsemen61

    horsemen61 Member

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    I get asked this from time to time when I mention I have a can and use it for everything I can and it’s one of the first things I hear I will start showing them this photo now I have to move it over but this rifle a Browning Xbolt wasn’t sighted in with this load (factory Precision Hunter 143 grain ELD X) that Hornady Makes 4085F7C2-BD89-4176-AAA0-3EFA7EB59355.jpeg THATS 3 at 100 yards I didn’t shoot 5 because the Can was hot enough to cook on but it made shooting the 6.5 PRC feel like a .243 which is nice oh btw the can is a Thunderbeast Arms Ultra 7 .264 version I can’t wait to hunt with it!
     
  2. Zak Smith

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    Shootability definitely increases. A lot of flinching comes from the blast, not necessarily the recoil either.
     
  3. a_canadian

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    A heavy can I made for my Sig Cross in 6.5CM certainly helps keep the lightweight rifle very tame. It feels softer shooting than my blowback 9mm PCC by quite a margin. Firing every minute or so gets the can almost uncomfortably warm on a hot day but I can still unscrew it with bare hands and hold it after. Wouldn't want to shoot any shorter intervals than that lest I overheat the thing and cook off my high temperature paint.

    Can't say it's done anything to improve accuracy... because I've only shot the Sig suppressed. And accuracy is just fine. Minimal earplugs necessary with the can mounted so that's nice. Makes shooting comfortable. Do I need more reasons?
     
  4. westernrover

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    I agree. I like a good punch of recoil like a lightweight 12 ga, but any loud noise can make me jump. I double-up for almost everything, but the cheek weld a rifle deserves isn't easy to achieve with the biggest muffs. I wear -33 dB foam plugs, and maybe low-profile electronic muffs. A muffler sure seems like it would be nice.
     
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  5. a_canadian

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    Exactly. I've always been averse to intense noises. So I wear custom silicone plugs, fitted past the second bend of the ear channel, and they're more than enough for shooting anything I have suppressed. I've not shot my 'Serbu' style 12ga shorty a lot - the plugs make it tolerable, but not quite comfortable. Luckily I'm not really a shotgun guy. It's more an emergency tool.
     
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  6. JDeere

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    Long ago learning to shoot I used to flinch on anticipation of the shot. Practiced and practiced some more while focusing on trigger control with good hearing protection. Eventually the anticipation of the shot was gone. Practice and technique are key...
     
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  7. trackskippy

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    I find its the added forward weight, not the noise reduction that helps the most. With my 10.5" guns, when the suppressor is mounted, the gun handles more smoothly, holds steadier, and I dont tend to over travel when moving from target to target.
     
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  8. The Glockodile

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    You can think of it as a Barrel Tuner or Doinker, if you're into that kind of thing...

    Definitely more of the latter, when it comes to pistols - dampens some of the poor trigger control during fast follow - up shots.
     
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  9. Odd Job

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    Once you've tried a suppressor, you'll understand the benefits. I'm a big fan, mainly using them on .22 rifles. I like shooting without ear muffs and I like the improved groups (in general) with the suppressor. I currently have about 14 cans for .22, so you could say I have a taste for them!
     
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    Mrs. Fl-NC shot her first deer with this Ruger in 300 BLK, It helped her because ear pro wasn't required, so I was able to give her some guidance on if/when to shoot, and when she did, no ear shattering kaboom. Not overall impressed with the performance of the 300 BLK, but that's another conversation.
     
  11. guyfromohio

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    For me…it was a huge waste of money and my anonymity.
     
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    I don’t have one yet but plan to get one in the future.

    I guess I scratch my head about the recoil mitigation on already light recoiling rifles like any 6.5 but I guess lighter recoiling and lower blast will always help rather than hurt.

    I plan to use mine on 450 BM, 458 Socorro, and 50 Beowulf.

    I don’t think anonymity should be a concern. If you have an SSN, you are already on a list.
     
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    If you arent on a list, you arent having fun.
     
  14. JDeere

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    I tried one at the range once. They are nice but as I said earlier I don't see the need as I learned to handle recoil and the anticipation of the shot. How much will one cost is another issue. 600 bucks atleast for a can, 200 bucks to the gubment, and who knows how much to thread a barrel. Then I have to turn around and rework my loads that I have spent time on already. I shall pass but to each his own. They are being marketed well these days.
     
  15. Catshooter

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    I really enjoy shooting without ear pro.
     
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  16. The Glockodile

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    If you have a Credit Card or a Bank Statement, your anonymity went poof long ago.
     
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  17. Demi-human

    Demi-human maybe likes firearms a little bit…

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    I find I am much more anonymous when others don’t hear me practicing my shooting…;)
     
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  18. trackskippy

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    Its generally OK for a few rounds, but if youre shooting a lot, say 50 rounds or more of something like 5.56, or standard 9mm, etc, you need to wear your plugs.

    I still wear my plugs when I shoot with the suppressor on, no matter how many rounds I shoot. If I shoot a lot without them, my ears ache after, just like they would if I wasnt using the suppressor. I still notice my hearing is a little off, but I dont lose my hearing for a couple of days, like I would without the suppressor, but my ears hurt all the same.
     
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  19. Catshooter

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    Sounds very like ear pro are a very good idea for your ears. Good call.

    Mine, not so much. I get none of the bad effects you describe, for which I'm grateful. I shoot mostly rifles with silencers, .223 and .30-06, from very soft to full power loads. Ten and a half to twenty seven inch barrels. I don't really find ear pro very comfortable after a while so I'm lucky for the supressors. Really makes a difference.
     
  20. CoalCrackerAl

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    I don't flinch from my own report. But if someone is next to me with a loud gun. I'll flinch. Especially if i can feel the shock waves. It really tics me off if they don't make sure i have my ear pro on.
     
  21. trackskippy

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    I dont like the ear plugs either, and I really dislike the muffs (especially when shooting long guns), which are usually less effective anyway. But the alternative isnt somethng you want to mess with, suppressors or not. For me, good plugs (even the cheap foam type work provides) work the best and offer the best protection of everything else Ive tried/used.

    I think if you get to checking too, even with a suppressor mounted, most of them still exceed what is deemed the safe level (below 85db). Keep in mind too, that decibel levels are not linear, they are logarithmic. 10db is ten times as intense as 0, 20db is 100 times as intense, 30db a 1000 times, and so on. A few decibels can quickly become a big difference.

    No doubt things are quieter with one mounted, and they do make a pretty big difference most of the time, especially with some things, but dont let it fool you into thinking damage isnt still being done. Hearing loss is cumulative, and you dont get it back. Well, hearing aids help some. :)

    It is nice to be able to pop something out in the yard from the carport without protection with one of my 5.56 AR's, at least I wont be deaf for a couple of days. For me, an unprotected 22lr from the same spot will do just that to me. The suppressor does knock the muzzle blast down to about nothing, but the "crack" and pressure wave is still there.

    Just curious, but how many rounds do you usually shoot at an outing? A couple of rounds, even 10 or 20, really isnt noticeable, but as you get up there, 50, 100 rounds at an outing, I find its quite noticeable, as the round count increases while shooting, and especially later on. And its not that same pain and deadened sound you get from an unprotected, unsuppressed round feel. I can feel my hearing is off a little at the end, not bad, but its there, and its more like that dull earache you get from being close to loud, concussive equipment for 12 hours or so than a sharp pain.
     
  22. CoalCrackerAl

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    I use the ones Hickok 45 uses. They cut sound down real good. If someone talks while im using them. I cant make out what they are saying.
     
  23. Soonerpesek

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    Not of my concern, but why would it be my responsibility to make sure you are prepared…?
    I do check to see if others around me have earpro on at the line, but that’s only out of respect. Still not my responsibility to make sure they are ready if the range is hot…. JMO…
     
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  24. CoalCrackerAl

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    I make sure others have their ear pro on. The favor returned is appreciated.
     
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  25. JDeere

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    Time, practice and good hearing protection at the range one learns to tune out your fellow shooters report. It's not my responsibility to make sure you are wearing hearing protection. If you are on the line you should have it on at all times. This is wear a good pair of electronic muffs come into play...
     
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