How have/haven't you changed your behavior in response to the economic downturn

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i check the fuel gauge before i steal a vehicle now. it has greatly improved my MPT's.:what:
LEE: I'm more scared or the pointy sticks you have in the hidden pit by the culvert. :eek:

if you think the social structure is beyond folding $ try silver coins. google "coin dealers (your zip code)". find one that will sell to you for 3 to 5% above spot (google "kitco"). roughly figure silver content of pre 1964 at 60% face value. so if silver is $20/ounce, value is face x 12. perhaps some gold-- buy 99.9999 pure, try not to buy below 1/2 oz and Krugerrrands (SP) trade at a discount to US or maple leafs.
 
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well i just found out that my mom took 16 shares of my grand ma's will that was left to me. hopefully she sold them before it went down the drain there worth like 12 bucks a piece so 192 bucks aint bad i just hope she didn't use it to pay off my ticket, i need a new amp badly
 
Trying to stop spending as much. I would like to ride my bike more, but most of the places I go are in the 45MPH zones with no sidewalks, so that's a no-go.

I try to buy more ammo in bulk, so I can save a little while stocking up at the same time. I need to stock up on more food and money, but my current issue is just getting out of debt.

Of course, buying a few more guns doesn't help that :)
 
before i moved into my mom's aka retirement area there was 2 cars stolen the 1st one being her Honda s2k. after that they had a camera put in my bedroom window to look out at the parking lot and a few weeks later another car got stolen not ours though. the camera has bin taken out because i didn't like the sun coming in or the old people seeing me. since i have moved in there has been no cars stolen or maybe because they got smart, i pull up everynite on the latenite tip most of the time you can see my radio in-dash thats worth alot and my GPS/Radar and hear my two sony 12" xplode subs and see my JBL amp in the back seat. back when i lived in NY on long island i would take all of that stuff down and put it in my glove box etc. but i don't seem to have that problem and my alarm would go off if someone broke in so i would bin there in no time. i would imagine that these people stealing cars do there recon work maybe they saw me and figured out that it wasn't just old people who couldn't hear there cars getting stolen living there, maybe they saw me coming home from the range with my cases. i'll never know and i wanna keep it that way

Good god, man- punctuate! Capitalization here and there would help too.

I know typing is hard, but gee...
 
Now might be a time for gold or maybe barterables such as tobacco ( I've seen a pack of Newports go for 32.00$ on an FTX in germany)

LOL! I saw 'em going for $20/pack on JCS exercises in '83. With prices the way they are now, cigarettes might be worth more than their weight in gold...

Now I just have to figure out a way to get all the neighbors hooked so I can run up my profits... :evil:
 
I drive slower (5-10 mph over).

Buying gas without ethanol (if you can find it) helps with mileage too.
 
mljdeckard said:
Wildlife conservation officers say they always see a rise in poaching when there's a recession, if I observe it, I'll report it.
Why do you specifically say you will report it? I'm not saying it isn't wrong, or that you should lie if an officer asks you, but not spend any effort seeing if they are indeed poaching(assuming in this example it is for economic reasons). Heck, even my hunter's education instructor advocated looking the other way when he found out the father of a big family had been getting deer without licenses and he and his whole family ate them all.


As for me, I took a First Responder course this spring, I'm working on continuing that sort of education for the times when I need it. I'll be buying a couple hundred .308 rounds when the next paycheck comes in, and I am putting closer scrutiny on my budget as to how I can save more. In terms of day to day situational awareness that has not changed to the the economy yet, but I am hoping to take some martial arts in the near future.
Above all I'm trusting God is sovereign and he can bring me and everyone through the crisis - alive.
 
Thankfully, I am in a recession-proof industry (military AND legal). One good thing about deployment is the ability to save money and invest. I haven't been able to buy much of anything other than C&R guns and ammo.

For my next home, I'm going to put up a sign that summarizes the text of the criminal law for penalties for Breaking and Entering, along with a statement of my right to use deadly force. For example: "Breaking and entering is a felony and you will get caught. In this state, the homeowners have the right to use deadly force if you unlawfully enter. (short text from state statute). I have nothing of value on my propety. DO NOT RISK YOUR LIFE OR PRISON by breaking into my home. You should SERIOUSLY RECONSIDER unlawfully entering my home."

I will put it in LARGE FONT and red print and post it on a few doors/windows.

Assuming that a potential criminal can read, it may make him have second thoughts on his B&E career.

I'll also make sure these other bases are covered:
1. Motion lights
2. Lights on timers
3. I like the 'fake TV' product - I'll just use an old TV on a timer without the volume.
4. Upgraded locks, deadbolts, and security items and reinforced internal doors with rebar and hooks screwed into the door frame
5. Park the vehicle in the garage so it cannot get stolen or parted out at night.
6. Trim hedges and make sure there are no dark hiding spots around the perimeter.
7. Keep all valuables locked in the safe, and get another safe if necessary. I lock up the laptop, when I'm not home.
8. Consider living close enough to work to bike to work - and do grocery shopping weekly instead of daily. (If you save a tank of gas a month, that equals over $1,000 a year!)
9. Cut down on unnecessary and frivolous expenses (excessive cable TV, phone plan options, compulsive purchases, junk food, etc.) (save hundreds of $ per year).
10. Buy stocks at the discounted rate AFTER the turbulence of the election.
11. Save brass at the range, even if it's just to give to reloaders for good will.
12. Shop the pawn and gun shops for great deals on turned in weapons and tools during this recession (I want a generator, for instance)
13. Buy used DVD movies instead of going to the theater (actually I will continue doing this, because I stopped regularly supporting Hollywood with box office ticket sales a decade ago - and now I just buy used movies). (saves about $1,000 a year!)
14. Pack a lunch and eat at home rather than restaurants more frequently (saves about $10 per day, or about $3600 a year!)
15. I want to research, purchase, and implement as much green technology as possible: Solar panels to run electronics, a 'kill switch' which turns off ALL household electronics when you leave with the press of a single button (these are supposedly responsible for an increase of up to 15% on your annual electric bill - or a few hundred dollars per year!), etc.
16. Possibly try to do some simple legal work on the side if I can get authorization - even if it's in trade for goods instead of cash.
 
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This may sound odd, but I'm buying books. Lots of folks clearing out stuff in their attics and garages and books often come with it. Old reloading manuals, army field manuals, many titles from Paladin press, Foxfire set...these are all on my want list.

Also, reloading components, especially bullets.
 
My brass hunting habits have become far more....intense. I'm taking brass in caliber I don't even own. I take an empty Kirkland Laundry Tub with me to the range with a dust scoop (the range doesn't let us use the sweeps) and have been taking on average around a thousand pieces of brass home, folks seeing me do it find out I'm 'recycling' even though I'm not reloading yet (the homeowner doesn't have a problem with my guns but reloading is too far for him) and drop their pieces to.

I've started picking up pieces of aluminum (old pool chairs and porch tables) I see sitting at the garbade pickup area of folks yards. I also don't throw out my Redbull cans like I used and instead have a bag they go in (I drink about four a week) along with other aluminum cans I find at my paren'ts house. Plus the folks whose yards I mow give me their cans (they all know me and cheer me on with law school) so I get about forty pans of cans a week. Last drop off at the scrap yards near my house, about a mile, (I go about once a month or less) was just over a hundred dollars, all of which goes towads my O.S. (Oh <blank>) also reloading savings.

Plus I had an incredible roll in the Stock Market with Wachovia stock and made a small bundle so I convinced myself in a round about money saving manner to take a thousand dollars and stock up on more ammo than usual that I usually get bulk buying my ammo. Plus I replaced the garbage disposal for my homeowner (I rent) and he gave me a hundred bucks to do it so I invest it all in .22lr bricks with a little over ten bucks I couldn't use up but I got five 550 round bricks, the guy at Walmart gave me a real nervous look.

I'm not eating out as much, eating more salads, chicken, and boiled eggs. Eating more oatmeals. Have said all but goodbye to my days when I could buy a Late' and enjoy reading Shotgun News, Combat Handgunner, and Wall Street Journal.

Oh and I sleep with my shotgun very near to me at night.
 
after the bush era i've decided i'll never vote another republican into an office.i think that will go farther than saving gas or using 22's
 
mljdeckard said:
Is there any particular reason I SHOULDN'T report poachers? (I've done this MANY times.)

I'm not saying you shouldn't, but more not spend any effort trying to if you think they do it to keep alive..
 
I see someone nighthunting or poaching and I know they've lost their job, got 6 kids, a wife, ailing parents etc. to feed...heck no, I'm not going to turn them in.

Someone poaching for head mounts, etc. in a skinny minute.

You can basically look at their vehicle and tell whether or not to call the game warden.

Shoot, my sheriff's daddy was the biggest moonshiner in eastern, central Georgia. ATF never caught him nor did state or local police as people knew that he wasn't doing that in lieu of working...he was doing it to feed his family. Who would have been going hungry without that income.

Now this was back right after WWII. Public assistance in Georgia at the time was just a way to make death from starvation last longer.

If a man with a hungry family is found in my henhouse, he'll get sent home with several chickens and instructions to ring my doorbell next time as he might get hurt messing around back in the dark.

Is there any particular reason I SHOULDN'T report poachers? (I've done this MANY times.)

It depends completely on circumstance...someone poaching for the sheer hell of it, for head mounts, simply as a scofflaw...turn them in. You see someone in a vehicle 20 years old, happen to know they're in financial straits with kids to feed...never.
 
DW is spending a lot of time on "Craig's List" and "Freecyle" before buying anything. I'm amazed at what people are just giving away
 
after the bush era i've decided i'll never vote another republican into an office.i think that will go farther than saving gas or using 22's

Hah! Let me guess, you're in your early thirties or younger.

In 1972 I voted for Richard Nixon, he taught me about voting for Republicans.

In 1976 I voted for Jimmy Carter and he taught me about voting for Democrats.

The next time I voted for a Republican was for George Bush in 2000. Why? Al Gore.
The next time I voted for a Republican was for George Bush in 2004. Why? John Kerry.

I wasn't voting for Bush for I believed Bush to be good and great. I voted for Bush to avoid Gore and Kerry. You think this is bad? Ponder eight years of either Gore or Kerry. I'll take Bush any day over that.

Same thing now. I could give a fig that Obama's black. I'll be voting for John McCain to avoid being subjected to Obama's policies

There are blacks I'd vote for in a presidential election. Walter Williams for one:D He'd have a bunch of people stepping and fetching if he won the nomination of a major party as he makes
Ronald Reagan look like a liberal in comparison.
 
Spend less, moved some funds out of money market and into CD's, set the thermostat lower, put down more insulation,can food,shop food sales and stcok up on those items, planted a garden about five years ago, drive fourteen year old vehicles, put in energy efficient windows, shop the second hand stores, repair things, do alot of our own small repairs, buy second hand guns, reload ammo, got a gunsafe, put in deadbolts, etc.

These are things we've been doing for several years, with the exception of the CD's. Why change now?
 
Is there any particular reason I SHOULDN'T report poachers? (I've done this MANY times.)

It depends on the circumstances. As an example, last year a guy poached on our land. We live about a 90 minute drive from it, and the only reason we knew is because we'd set up game cameras because my husband hunts and he wanted to see what kind of deer were in the area. "Our" poacher drove in from the back side (our land is adjacent to a WMA) on a JD Gator, dumped 100# of corn in a back pasture, set up a two-man free-standing platform stand, and used a rifle during bow season. Definitely not a subsistence hunter! Pics got turned in to DNR, and the guy was caught later 1/4 mile away doing the same thing on someone else's property.

OTOH someone shooting a fat doe off his back porch for the meat because he's out of work and the kids are hungry... I won't say a word. It's not like deer are an endangered species.

As far as my own behavior changes... on the interstates I'm driving at or just under the speed limit, hanging with the "castrated" big trucks. It does make a big difference in fuel economy.
 
Spending less, saving more. 100% debt free.

Shooting a lot of .22. No new guns or other "toys" for now. We've been stockpiling food for several months now. Canned goods, etc.
 
Ditched one hobby - not shooting!

Started using the library for books and CDs.

Rethinking my retirement data - probably in 2078 AD now.
 
We border some neighborhoods that aren't great. Not ghetto, but not great. I've started carrying more, especially when in the wife's Escalade.
 
Solar panels, solar water heater, and wind turbine with battery storage. Wood stove. No debt. Increased garden area. Two years supply of non-perishable food and supplies. Stockpile ammunition and reloading components. Two AR-15s. Fireproof safe with substantial cash in small bills. Silver coins. Rotweiller.
 
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